We have a POPE!!!!

[JamesCaruso]

Congratulations. There must be more people like you in these forums. Here there is a lot of skepticism, and I just can’t see why forum users can’t admire our Holy Father’s humbleness.

All Christians admire humility. A healthy skepticism is a good thing. For most of us, the Holy Father is completely new on the world scene. I had never heard of him before he became Pope. All this being said, I took a liking to him immediately with some small reservation. I like his style, I have heard mostly good reports about him, the Catholics I know are all enthusiastic about him, and for me he represents the possibility for the Church to take giant strides in getting the Gospel out to the world in the new evangelism called for by Pope Benedict in this year of faith and making the difference in whether this next generation will be the darkest or brightest period in the history of the world. Still, a part of me always reserves final judgment when it comes to any human being, Pope or pauper, since we are all works in progress-- the Church does not canonize saints while they are alive for a reason. Catholics are unique in that they follow Christ and His Church first and foremost, and if His Vicar on earth follows Christ and His Church, we then have the best of all worlds, if only the rest of us will follow him [the Pope], for Christ does wish to work through His Church, not circumvent it.

 

[ProVobis]

Official? According to what they wanted to do at the Vatican, the official would be the English language, as @pontifex is in English. Then, you got several others, my favorite, @pontifex_es in Spanish. I follow both.
Is the Vatican official language Latin?
Happy Easter! God bless,

I believe they speak Italian, just like the country that surrounds it. Latin is the official language of the Church. Good luck with the English; I don’t know who does that from Rome.

 

[JamesCaruso]

Not everyone - just those who take pleasure in it. (Possible grave matter?)

Just get out your tin hat because the honeymoon is over and the media have had plenty of mileage from covering the pageantry. Now they need to dish dirt to garner an audience and they never let the truth get in the way of a good story. The time for us Catholics to worry is when he pleases the secular media because that could be an indication that our Pope isn’t Catholic.

That can’t happen! What will become of the punch line-- “Is the Pope Catholic?”

 

[matutemats]

many “cafeteria style” Catholics

Ugh, would everyone please stop calling some Catholics “cafeteria” ones?
Aren’t we taught by our saviour that there should be no differentiating between us? That there aren’t some more Catholic than others? That the Opus Dei believes in that is another thing, and I truly believe it’s wrong.
We are not whom to judge others. Focus on yourself. Everyone lives his spirituality as he wants. All of us would know if we lived it well on our judgment day. Thankfully, when I reached my 16th birthday (past March 19th) I realized that.
I know it. Especially when you see yourself carrying a cross and then seeing that others don’t even care about trying at least to do what the Church teaches us.
Happy Easter, and God Bless!

 

[JamesCaruso]

I believe they speak Italian, just like the country that surrounds it. Latin is the official language of the Church. Good luck with the English; I don’t know who does that from Rome.

As an aside, isn’t the second language of Argentina Italian?

 

[matutemats]

There was no need to make that personal. I will say that if I were blessed with a child (a son), I would most definitely encourage the priesthood in whatever way that I could do so.

Then they would feel guilty if they do not follow the seminary.
I would raise them in the Catholic faith. Not forcing them to anything. They should discover the Holy Spirit themselves, as I know think I have discovered it.
Strange though, that, on hardline Opus Dei families, their children appear to be more rebellious, who later have children before getting married, etc.
Then, on families who only 1 member is practicing and the others are agnostics, may raise a practicing and devout Catholic.
Strange, isn’t it?
God bless, and happy easter!

 

[matutemats]

That would be a great thing! But does that mean that each country that has gone astray needs a Pope from it to change? If so there are not enough Popes to help our world.

Argentine society is lost. I truly believe that. People that should be voting for the party I participate in, whine for bicycle tracks in the city that the current mayor created. I do not know if you get me, but, people who whine for that are whining for something stupid. Then they continue to vote these Peronists or Radicals that keep destroying Argentina. They don’t see there is a higher cause behind the bicycle track.
God bless, and happy Easter!

 

[matutemats]

Just get out your tin hat because the honeymoon is over and the media have had plenty of mileage from covering the pageantry. Now they need to dish dirt to garner an audience and they never let the truth get in the way of a good story. The time for us Catholics to worry is when he pleases the secular media because that could be an indication that our Pope isn’t Catholic.

What? Sorry, I couldn’t understand what you said. Maybe I don’t get some irony.

God bless, and happy easter!

 

[matutemats]

I believe they speak Italian, just like the country that surrounds it. Latin is the official language of the Church. Good luck with the English; I don’t know who does that from Rome.

I am sure the Holy Father doesn’t write those tweets by himself. He dictates them to Lombardi (I’d suppose) and he’d made sure the Twitter Machinery gets on with every Vatican translator.

God bless, and happy Easter!

 

[JamesCaruso]

Nobody should force each other to be or not to be priests. I live that at home. It’s not nice. It just creates conflict.

We should cultivate a love for the priesthood in our families, but that will not make ours sons priests, it will only make it easier if they do have a vocation to respond to it with an open heart. There is quite a difference between cultivating a love and respect for the priesthood and pressuring our children to become what we want them to become. That doesn’t work well in the priesthood or any other vocation in life. If they acquiesce to such pressure they may make a wrong choice for the priesthood and they may resent us the rest of their lives for forcing such a burden on them, and if they rebel against our undue pressure they may flee a real vocation to the priesthood. Always hold the priesthood in high regard and allow our children to freely choose what they feel God is calling them to, the single life, the married life, the religious life, or the priesthood. All we should want is that they prayerfully consider what it is that God wants for them.

 

[onmyknees]

Ugh, would everyone please stop calling some Catholics “cafeteria” ones?
Aren’t we taught by our saviour that there should be no differentiating between us? That there aren’t some more Catholic than others? That the Opus Dei believes in that is another thing, and I truly believe it’s wrong.
We are not whom to judge others. Focus on yourself. Everyone lives his spirituality as he wants. All of us would know if we lived it well on our judgment day. Thankfully, when I reached my 16th birthday (past March 19th) I realized that.
I know it. Especially when you see yourself carrying a cross and then seeing that others don’t even care about trying at least to do what the Church teaches us.
Happy Easter, and God Bless!

I disagree! We are to judge wrong actions and there are those who are known publicly for not following the Churches teaching. And I used that phrase for lack of different word. I was just trying explain how this all came about way back when. Geez!

 

[JamesCaruso]

I disagree! We are to judge wrong actions and there are those who are known publicly for not following the Churches teaching. And I used that phrase for lack of different word. I was just trying explain how this all came about way back when. Geez!

Yes, we have cafeteria Catholics (which means Catholics who pick and choose what they will believe and/or practice) and we have Catholics who eat everything the Church sets before them, the tasty and the less tasty, the bitter and the sweet, the appealing and the unappealing, because to them, the whole menu of God is found beneficial for the nutrition and well being of the body.

 

[Tampa_Dave]

When the Church tells me to jump, I say “how high”. I am completely faithful to the Magisterium and the Holy See. Is there an inherent problem with that concept, or are we free as Catholics to pick and choose among dogmatic principles?

 

[JamesCaruso]

When the Church tells me to jump, I say “how high”. I am completely faithful to the Magisterium and the Holy See. Is there an inherent problem with that concept, or are we free as Catholics to pick and choose among dogmatic principles?

If there is a problem with that, then we’re both in trouble.

 

[cheezey]

When the Church tells me to jump, I say “how high”. I am completely faithful to the Magisterium and the Holy See. Is there an inherent problem with that concept, or are we free as Catholics to pick and choose among dogmatic principles?

There is no problem with this. No, one cannot pick and choose and be in full communion, at least I wouldn’t think so.
since we were given a mind with which to think and discern, as well as free will, isn’t it okay to learn why those dogmatic principles are in place, how they came to be, etc; questioning not in an accusatory way, but in an inquiring way? To learn the reason for one’s faith, not just follow blindly.
I can’t tell you how many post-it notes I have in my CCC. I should own stock in the company.
Never can learn enough…

 

[ProVobis]

As an aside, isn’t the second language of Argentina Italian?

I wouldn’t know that but I understand South America is split between Spanish and Portuguese. I think that’s why they’re called Latin America. (Italian is also a descendant of Vulgar Latin*, by the way.)

• Vulgar Latin is a technical term, to separate the spoken language of the early Church from Ecclesiastical Latin, which is the Church’s primary liturgical and documental language, though it’s now obviously translated into many other languages.

 

[JamesCaruso]

I wouldn’t know that but I understand South America is split between Spanish and Portuguese. I think that’s why they’re called Latin America. (Italian is also a descendant of Vulgar Latin*, by the way.)

• Vulgar Latin is a technical term, to separate the spoken language of the early Church from Ecclesiastical Latin, which is the Church’s primary liturgical and documental language, though it’s now obviously translated into many other languages.

A friend of mine formerly with the State Department was telling me that because of so much immigration to Argentina, Italian has become their second language. Brazil is the principal place in which Portuguese is spoken.

 

[matutemats]

When the Church tells me to jump, I say “how high”. I am completely faithful to the Magisterium and the Holy See. Is there an inherent problem with that concept, or are we free as Catholics to pick and choose among dogmatic principles?

I think the same way as I do.
But creating divisions among ourselves will not help the RCC in any way. You and I know our conviction and faithfulness to the Magisterium and the Holy See. There is no need to brag about it. Because, I do believe, when you are differentiating if I am more or less Catholic than you, you are abandoning any type of humbleness.
That’s why I insist.
We know what we are. We could later face St. Peter at the gates of Heaven without any problem, knowing we did the best we could when we had to. Let’s focus on ourselves.
The people you call “cafeteria” Catholics would later have to face for themselves St. Peter. So why should we worry?
God bless.

 

[Edward_H]

Then they would feel guilty if they do not follow the seminary.
I would raise them in the Catholic faith. Not forcing them to anything. They should discover the Holy Spirit themselves, as I know think I have discovered it.
Strange though, that, on hardline Opus Dei families, their children appear to be more rebellious, who later have children before getting married, etc.
Then, on families who only 1 member is practicing and the others are agnostics, may raise a practicing and devout Catholic.
Strange, isn’t it?
God bless, and happy easter!

What’s your sample size on your own “hardline” assertion above? Nonsense.

 

[JamesCaruso]

I’ve explained the language situation in a post before. Your friend is partially right, yet, there is nothing official about Italian. You don’t walk by the street and hear people chatting in Italian. That’s what I said before. Because second language would mean that everyone knows it. But now, people from Italian ascent, are abandoning their old cultures and continue to form the Argentine society. With just Spanish as their only language.

I missed your previous post I guess. I can see how you could get the meaning that I was saying everyone spoke Italian, but I, and my friend I think, only meant that it was the second most spoken language in Argentina. In North America, I would say that Spanish is the second most spoken language in the US, and perhaps French is the second most spoken language in Canada. Is Italian, as my friend thought, the second most spoken language in Argentina?