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Edwin1961:
Ani, if you flee, come to Cleveland.
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Polish sausage? I’m on my way! I’ll start a sausage stand instead of a hotdog stand.

Edwin1961 said:
(Or you may not have much time…we might have to smuggle Canadian Catholics in a Canadian Underground Railroad). What’s to say that the government there pass a law limiting immigration to the U.S. for those who want to leave Canada (i.e like the former Communist U.S.S.R.)
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You owe us! We took in your draft dodgers!
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Edwin1961:
If Quebec were to vote and become their own county, then I am sure a lot of faithful Catholics would go there.
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No they wouldn’t. Quebec used to be Catholic. They are not Catholic anymore.
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Edwin1961:
The boycotts could be a big dent in the Canadian economy, but you’d have to get support from ourside…especially those people who LOVE to gamble in your cacinos.
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Viva Las Vegas!
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Edwin1961:
Or boycott the Canadian side of the Falls?
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I think you should just turn the Canadian Falls off! Of course that would force us to build a rock-climbing facility to replace the casinos which you just shut down. 😃
 
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4HisChurch:
I think this is the horrifying consequence of the Islamic extremist terrorists.
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The anti-Catholics I know haven’t even the first clue about terrorism and couldn’t care less. They are simply unschooled and couldn’t care less.
 
… Seriously, Ani, are you really that worried that they will come and take you away?
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Housing: Eviction seems to be the latest jeu du jour for many Catholics.

Employment: I have had to leave two jobs in the last wee while, because there was nothing I could do to stop the overt anti-Catholic discrimination.

Harrassment: Public verbal attacks (yelling Jack Chick rubbish) is frequent.

Am I worried? I have heard the anti-Catholics in my neighbourhood. They are unschooled, full of undifferentiated hatred, and just looking for the next scape goat. So yes. It is not a question of ‘if’ but of ‘when.’
 
Well, Ani, If they run you out of town on a rail, you can set your hot dog stand up here in Cincinnati! We have a good German heratige, so lots of bratts, metts, and sour kraut would be a must!!!
 
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Siena:
Well, Ani, If they run you out of town on a rail, you can set your hot dog stand up here in Cincinnati! We have a good German heratige, so lots of bratts, metts, and sour kraut would be a must!!!
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Danke schon. I have so many invitations now, that I will have to get a mobile hot dog stand. I’ll be an upwardly mobile refugee. All this talk of hot dogs has made me ravenous. Now I have to walk blocks and blocks to get a veggie dog.
 
Great hearing from the Canadians. It restores your faith in humanity.

Deacon Tony
 
Ani Ibi:
The anti-Catholics I know haven’t even the first clue about terrorism and couldn’t care less. They are simply unschooled and couldn’t care less.
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That may be true for many anti-Catholics, but I think that any proposal to rein in relgion to comply with a particular country’s “code” has to be in part, because of the wish to rein in Islamic extremists. Problem is, to many of these anti-religious people, all beleif is extremist.
 
Thank you for your support, but remember that in the U.S. you have the protection of the First Amendment to your constitution:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

We do not have these rights in Canada.
 
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buzzcut:
Thank you for your support, but remember that in the U.S. you have the protection of the First Amendment to your constitution:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

We do not have these rights in Canada.
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Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms
Section 2:

Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
a) freedom of conscience and religion; b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication; c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and d) freedom of association.
 
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4HisChurch:
That may be true for many anti-Catholics, but I think that any proposal to rein in relgion to comply with a particular country’s “code” has to be in part, because of the wish to rein in Islamic extremists. Problem is, to many of these anti-religious people, all beleif is extremist.
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It has nothing to do with Islamic extremists. You are dealing with people whose only contact with the news might, on a good day, be the CBC, but is most likely nothing. Absolutely nothing.

As for our country’s code, pray tell, whose code would that be? The Family Compact?
 
HagiaSophia said:
calling for state control over religion, specifically Catholicism.
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You can’t control a RELIGION!

HagiaSophia said:
"Couldn’t we insist that human rights, employment and consumer legislation apply to them as it does other organizations? Then it would be illegal to require a particular marital status as a condition of employment or to exclude women from the priesthood. "
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No it wouldn’t because you can’t legislate a religion!
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HagiaSophia:
Ferguson continued, “Of course the Vatican wouldn’t like the changes, but they would come to accept them in time as a fact of life in Canada. Indeed I suspect many clergy would welcome the external pressure.”
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We answer to a higher authority than Canada’s government.
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HagiaSophia:
The former professor pitched his idea as a boon to religious freedom. “We could also help the general cause of religious freedom by introducing a code of moral practice for religions,” he said. “They will never achieve unity so why not try for compatibility? **Can’t religious leaders agree to adjust doctrine so all religions can operate within the code?” **
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Would you believe it, but NO! Doctrine is DOCTRINE. THIS MAN IS TOO STUPID!!!

Michael :mad:
 
Ani, that code would be Bob Ferguson’s proposal to introduce “a code of moral practice for religions.”

If you decide to take refuge in America maybe you could me up on the way to join you as a sidewalk chalk artist next to your hot dog stand?:hmmm:
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Rosalinda:
Ani, that code would be Bob Ferguson’s proposal to introduce “a code of moral practice for religions.”

If you decide to take refuge in America maybe you could me up on the way to join you as a sidewalk chalk artist next to your hot dog stand?:hmmm:
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OK. I’m gonna serve Canadian pea-meal bacon dogs and you can draw portraits in maple leaf frames on the sidewalk. Sounds like a niche to me. :bounce:
 
Someone suggested Catholics flee to Quebec if it ever gains independence…this would not be the wisest idea…Quebec is among the most liberal provinces, when it comes to morals. It is about as Catholic as France ;). Alberta, on the other hand, is much more in line with American thinking, including moral issues. The Alberta government has vowed to do all it can to prevent this federal law from taking effect in this province. I, unfortauntly, am in British Columbia, whose provincial government has no quarrel with same-sex marriage.

St. Joseph, pray for us.
St. Anne, pray for us.
St. George, pray for us.
St. John Brebeuf, St. Isaac Jogues, and the Holy Canadian Martyrs, pray for us.
(The above are Canada’s patrons…as well, I have seen our Lady invoked as a patroness of Canada under the tiles ‘Mary of the Hurons’ and 'Our Lady of the Cape").

In Christ,
Tyler
 
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twf:
Someone suggested Catholics flee to Quebec if it ever gains independence…this would not be the wisest idea…Quebec is among the most liberal provinces, when it comes to morals. It is about as Catholic as France ;). Alberta, on the other hand, is much more in line with American thinking, including moral issues. The Alberta government has vowed to do all it can to prevent this federal law from taking effect in this province. I, unfortauntly, am in British Columbia, whose provincial government has no quarrel with same-sex marriage.
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Isn’t Alberta where they (In)Human Rights Commission persecuting Bishop Fred Henry of Calgary?

As for Quebec, maybe you sould let them split from Canada. Maybe then you could start reversing some of the Culture of Perversion laws.

PF
 
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WanderAimlessly:
Isn’t Alberta where they (In)Human Rights Commission persecuting Bishop Fred Henry of Calgary?
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Yes. But the persecution of Bsp Henry comes from all over Canada. Premier Ralph Klein is ultra conservative and I believe is making special provisions to protect the Church from persecution. I believe he is interpreting Bill C-38 as allowing civil unions not civil marriage. We’ll see.
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WanderAimlessly:
As for Quebec, maybe you sould let them split from Canada. Maybe then you could start reversing some of the Culture of Perversion laws.PF
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If Quebec leaves, then the rest of Canada will join the U.S. The reason that Canada did not join the U.S. in the first place was:
  1. the strength of Family Compact (English) privilege and
  2. the deal the English made with Quebec Catholics and
  3. the deals the English made with First Nations peoples
Now Quebec is no longer Catholic and the First Nations are gaining strength in their own right and have no time for the paper treaties, but Family Compact is as strong as it ever was.
 
Ani Ibi:
If Quebec leaves, then the rest of Canada will join the U.S.
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If that is so, how about we give Quebec New England (and maybe New York) and we take the rest of Canada.😃

PF
 
Tyler you can’t go …We need evrey abled body here to fight defend and reclaim… 😉

I too am canadian and would like all our southern neighbors to know that I applaud the election of President Bush, the outcome of the electees was awesome…the American people stood together and with one loud voice…won 👍
Here the problem is the lack of standing together, we could beat this SSM over night if our church leaders would lead, if our priests would educate and counsel instead of the politically correct homilies we get, I feel it in my bones folks, the church will lose its charitable status and I think that its necessary…only to bring on the courage that is lacking in our Bishops, Priests and laymen. It’s been far too long that complacency is a BIG PROBLEM here
I say “Bring it on”

The next hurdle is the euthanasia bill that has already passed first reading and will resume this fall :crying: and what will the canadians do about it ?
…I will fight, I will call, I will write and protest and it will still pass …why bc canadians don’t stand together!! 😦

A prayer my family has been saying along with the Rosary
(this was given to me by a very dear friend of mine)

Heavenly Father we commit this our beloved land to the Kingship and Lordship of Jesus Christ. We ask You to renew our country in the power of the Holy Spirit that all Canadians will bow their knee and confess with their tongue that Jesus Christ is Lord.

We pray that our political leaders receive wisdom and knowledge from on high to govern this land according to Your sovereign Will that we may prosper in justice and in peace, in love and in truth until Christ our Lord is indeed The King of Canada from coast to coast, from sea to sea.

We pledge a covenant of prayer and witness so that the powers of evil be defeated and the enemy of God, satan, be subdued.

Let Jesus Christ be Sovereign in every City Hall, every Parliament and every Court in our land until the day of His Glorious coming,
Amen
 
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