WH:No Constitutional Rights Issue in Forcing Catholics to Act Against Their Faith

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Planned Parenthood TV Ads Defend Obama’s Attack on Catholics
The Planned Parenthood abortion business is defending President Barack Obama’s decision to put in place a mandate forcing religious employers to pay for insurance coverage for their employees that covers birth control or drugs that may cause abortions.
Planned Parenthood president Cecile Richards dismissed concerns from Catholics in an interview with ABC News, saying birth control use is “nearly universal in the U.S., even among Catholic women.”
“Planned Parenthood respects religious freedom and believes that neither government nor employers should intrude on individuals’ ability to practice their own religions or faiths, including their personal decisions about health care,” Richards said.
ABC indicates the ad will air in West Palm Beach, Florida; Cedar Rapids, Iowa; Lansing, Michigan; Reno, Nevada; Albuquerque, New Mexico; Toledo, Ohio; Charlottesville, Virginia; and Madison, Wisconsin. The locations are not surprising given that they are big cities in key states in the upcoming presidential election and Planned Parenthood will be aggressively defending Obama and his pro-abortion record to voters this year.
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lifenews.com/2012/02/02/planned-parenthood-tv-ads-defend-obamas-attack-on-catholics/

The claim that a majority of Catholic women use contraception and thus it is okay to include it in a mandate which goes against religious conscience is a pathetic excuse; first, you have no idea what percentage of Catholic women use contraception, I do not see an accurate way how you could get such statistics, and even if a majority of Catholic women use contraception, that has no bearing on the intrinsic evil of its use.
 
If they persist in requiring that of Catholic hospitals and the SCOTUS doesn’t overturn it, what are the scenarios? Cave in? Defy and either get fined to bankruptcy or have licenses pulled. Either way on defiance, hospitals would likely end up closed.
I wonder about this. Some Catholic hospitals are controlled by bishops, but most are not. Most are controlled by religious organizations, some of which, one might argue, “jumped ship” a long time ago.

One might remember that Sister Carol Keehan, head of the Catholic Hospital Association warmly blessed Obamacare even after the Stupak Amendment failed. She has delivered a meager protest to this latest rule, but was that just for effect? Did Sister Keehan really not know that Obamacare would allow the executive branch to do this? If so, how could she possibly have not known? Even a simple country boy like me knew that, and I knew it without reading all of its pages. (Nobody could. Even the Congress didn’t) But provision after provision said simply “The Secretary (of HHS) shall determine…The Secretary shall determine…” Through the Secretary of HHS, who is his employee, Obama can do almost anything under Obamcare, and will do a lot worse than this. Can anybody seriously believe that hospital association and its head, with the army of lawyers they have, couldn’t figure it out? It totally strains credulity to imagine that they did not.

There have been Catholic hospitals whose religious orders turned them over to lay operators; some totally, for money. It really is wishful thinking to imagine that a lot more of them will not do it if this regulation is enforced. They will throw up their hands and say “Well, you see, we couldn’t go against our consciences, but we do want people to have care, so we sold our interest to devote to other ministries.”

This thing is a lot worse than most people think. The only real hope Catholics have is the defeat of Obama in the fall of this year and the defeat of the Democrat majority in the Senate, and by a big margin.

The Party of Death did, indeed, gain control of this country, as Cdl Burke warned, and now we’re seeing how right he was. We have only one chance out of it, and that will be in the 2012 election.
 
From the linked story: “The administration believes that this proposal strikes the appropriate balance between respecting religious beliefs and increasing access to important preventative services,”

Indeed sometimes in a society of plural beliefs, compromise must be engaged in. Seeking to respect religious beliefs while still joining with individuals and faith based communities in taking a role to help Christ with caring for the health of others, something He spoke about in Matt 25, might be one of those times. I don’t believe Christ would turn down additional help from government if offered, to go along with what care individuals and faith based groups are able to provide.

This was I have to believe simply a sincere effort to strike such a balance as the WH press secretary said. A parish can be exempt. Catholic employers are not otherwise being singled out. The mandate affects employers beyond Catholic employers. Catholic employees do not need to use any of the benefits and can continue practicing their faith. I don’t believe for even a minute it was meant as an assault on Catholicism or any religious faith.
 
From the linked story: “The administration believes that this proposal strikes the appropriate balance between respecting religious beliefs and increasing access to important preventative services,”

Indeed sometimes in a society of plural beliefs, compromise must be engaged in. Seeking to respect religious beliefs while still joining with individuals and faith based communities in taking a role to help Christ with caring for the health of others, something He spoke about in Matt 25, might be one of those times. I don’t believe Christ would turn down additional help from government if offered, to go along with what care individuals and faith based groups are able to provide.
Christ was not an ethical relativist. Laws that force religious institutions to act against their beliefs, indeed against natural and moral law in the name of pluralism are simply unjust. Do you honestly believe Christ would support manditory coverage for abortifacients?
 
The Bishops Are Wrong and Have No One But Themselves To Blame for Obama’s Persecution of Catholics
lewrockwell.com/orig13/giunta1.1.1.html
That raised good points, including:
But where they fail most miserably is in realizing why these regulations are wrong. To this writer’s knowledge, not a single bishop has spoken out against the inherent immorality of the federal government forcing any employer to provide any particular benefit to prospective employees. Furthermore, in seeking exemptions solely for religious institutions the Church is neglecting to defend the conscience rights of for-profit employers whose Christian or other moral convictions would otherwise preclude them from complying with these regulations with a clean conscience.
 
Christ was not an ethical relativist. Laws that force religious institutions to act against their beliefs, indeed against natural and moral law in the name of pluralism are simply unjust. Do you honestly believe Christ would support manditory coverage for abortifacients?
But you can see in the world of liberalism how confusing it all gets. There must be a compromise somewhere; indeed a modification of belief so that individual opinion can reign supreme and their skepticism of truth can insure they remain secure in their own reasoning. There is never room for assent to a Divine Revelation because it doesn’t agree with their philosophy and politics. Now granted, in order to do this, it must be justified with words of blessings and peace and good will toward all and a rigid defense made on behalf of those poor women whose “rights” to terminate life might be infringed upon.
 
It is obvious that each and every Catholic must vote against Obama in November. End of Story.
 
Christ was not an ethical relativist. Laws that force religious institutions to act against their beliefs, indeed against natural and moral law in the name of pluralism are simply unjust. Do you honestly believe Christ would support manditory coverage for abortifacients?
I’m on this lifelong faith journey working on what I believe. All I really know right now is while He specifically did not mention the words abortion or abortifacients in the Gospel, He did talk about caring for people’s health. As we journey along our walks, may God bless you and all who walk in faith. Peace.
 
I’m on this lifelong faith journey working on what I believe. All I really know right now is while He specifically did not mention the words abortion or abortifacients in the Gospel, He did talk about caring for people’s health. As we journey along our walks, may God bless you and all who walk in faith. Peace.
He also talked about us doing it, not defaulting that duty to the state.
 
A Dominican Friar tells it like it is. Fr. Powell, OP like most Dominican friars for all his education, is wonderfully plainspoken and to the point. Rather than clouding the issue in a bunch of double speak or him-hawing around all sides of the issue, he comes right out and says it.

hancaquam.blogspot.com/2012/02/anti-catholic-bigtory-rant.html

Fr. P. N. Powell said:
04 FEBRUARY 2012

Anti-Catholic Bigtory: A Rant
Excellent article on the contemporary resurgence of American anti-Catholicism:

“. . .the new anti-Catholicism does not adopt the posture of a humble and teachable critic seeking to engage the Church on matters over which reasonable citizens from differing theological and secular moral traditions disagree. Rather, it seeks to employ the coercive power of the state to force the Church’s institutions to violate the Church’s own moral theology, and thus compromise, and make less accessible, the Church’s mission of charity and hope.”

Anti-Catholic bigotry is un-American. Hell itself will not prevail against the Church, so I’m little worried that the mewlings and machinations of pampered academics and other assorted leftist bigots will hurt the Church in the long run.

However, anti-Catholic bigotry can cause permanent damage to our liberty as American citizens, permanent damage to our republican form of self-government and the divinely gifted rights of individuals to worship and believe as they choose.

Recent attacks on the Church by the B.O. administration are not accidental nor are they coincidental. B.O. and his allies are going right to the core of our religious freedom by taking on the only institution left in this country that stalwartly stands against their statist agenda of radical secularism.

Having chipped away at the foundations of liberty through dependency on the largesse of the welfare state and created a generation or two of state wards, secularists (with B.O.'s generous help) are now reaching into the conscience of individuals and coercing compliance to rules and regulations that are diametrically opposed to the basic truths of the Christian faith.

It is one thing for secularists to expect Catholics to respect the rule of law and tolerate the easy availability of contraception, abortion, and sterilization. It is quite another to order us to pay for the privilege of helping others to commit mortal sin.

B.O.'s spurious claim that his Big Government grasp at power is somehow akin to “what Jesus would do” is truly beyond ridicule. Does he think that Jesus would also expect us to surgically and chemically render women infertile? Or use scissors and vacuum pumps to remove unborn children from their mother’s womb? Where in scripture does Jesus order his followers to surrender their charitable responsibilities to Caesar’s bureaucrats and tax collectors?

Jesus expects his followers to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, and heal the sick (Matt 25). And that is exactly what billions of Catholic dollars and thousands of Catholics do in this country every year through Catholic Charities, Catholic hospitals and hospices, and hundreds of other service organizations operated by the Church. Why is this a problem for statists? Competition. The Church provides free health care to millions but it also operates without the preferred ideological/sexual agenda of the secular Left. With the Church out of the way, those millions join millions more as dependent wards of the state, their liberty as citizens defined and regulated by their Enlightened Betters.

Keep in mind that B.O. and his allies cut funding to the bishops’ efforts to stop human trafficking. Why? The bishops were having UnGood Thoughts. . .about issues that have nothing to do with their work against slavery.

Keep in mind that this administration sued a Lutheran Church for firing one its ministers, claiming that the 1st Amendment does not exempt religious institutions from equal opportunity employment laws. In other words, the gov’t should be able to tell churches who can and can’t be ministers.

Keep in mind that this administration is charging pro-life activists all over the country with civil rights violations for exercising their 1st Amendment rights to speak freely about the evils of abortion.

Keep in mind that this administration consistently refuses to use the phrase “freedom of religion” in its domestic and foreign policy statements, preferring instead “freedom of worship.” This is an aggressive attempt to shrink the religious liberty of believers down to the sanctuary.

Keep in mind, political power is given not taken.

Here is a link to the article he is citing at the beginning: thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/the-new-anti-catholicism-occupy-the-vatican.html

Peace all,
 
come on Catholics! we are the biggest Church in America, they can’t push us around like this. Sign as many petitions as you can, notify your reps and senators and most importantly PRAY!
 
I’m on this lifelong faith journey working on what I believe. All I really know right now is while He specifically did not mention the words abortion or abortifacients in the Gospel, He did talk about caring for people’s health. As we journey along our walks, may God bless you and all who walk in faith. Peace.
Jesus didn’t condemn infanticide, which was legal at the time in the Roman world, nor did he condemn glatiatorial combats, which were not only legal, but were often paid for by the state. Nor did he condemn utterly extirpating the populations of resistant cities, which was Roman policy.

Do you really believe “anything goes”, morally, that the state allows, so long as Jesus didn’t specifically forbid it? Some do, I guess, and that has brought us to the bloody-mindedness of the current government.
 
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