What’s at Stake for PBS Viewers? Budget Cuts Could Harm More Than Big Bird and Elmo

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PBS is my go to for documentaries. History Channel and Discovery have (at least from what I see) little documentary programming any more. I’m tired of marathoning shows like “Pawn Stars” and “Deadliest Catch” I actually would like to see informative programming come back.
 
PBS is also the home of “Austin City Limits,” one of the best music television shows bar none (now that MTV and VH1, as of last year, really don’t show music anymore). You can’t find a show like ACL on cable. You just can’t. For those of us who don’t live in a town with decent college/non-commercial radio station, Austin City Limits fills the gap quite nicely.

As for opera, for those aren’t aware of this - the AMC movie theater chain has for quite some time now simulcast operas from around the world in their theaters. And, whenever I have been at a movie and see it there, the theater showing the opera is just as full as the theater showing the movies. So, obviously, there’s really no question that opera already is mainstream.
 
PBS is also the home of “Austin City Limits,” one of the best music television shows bar none (now that MTV and VH1, as of last year, really don’t show music anymore). You can’t find a show like ACL on cable. You just can’t. For those of us who don’t live in a town with decent college/non-commercial radio station, Austin City Limits fills the gap quite nicely.

As for opera, for those aren’t aware of this - the AMC movie theater chain has for quite some time now simulcast operas from around the world in their theaters. And, whenever I have been at a movie and see it there, the theater showing the opera is just as full as the theater showing the movies. So, obviously, there’s really no question that opera already is mainstream.
I like Austin City Limits, but let’s be honest, the audience is mostly college educated, upper middle class white people. They are more than capable of funding their own show without relying on forced contributions from taxpayers.
 
Well, in my opinion, you can’t say PBS is fair with regard to political issues, social issues, or political talk shows.

The only Conservative Commentator shown on PBS is Mr. David Brooks and he is, in my opinion, a Moderate Republican (i.e., Conservative on financial issues, Liberal on social issues) and he’s only on once a week for about 8-10 minutes with a Liberal Commentator on Fridays during the PBS Newshour.

I don’t know if PBS still has the “McLaughlin Group” since the host died but that program was more entertainment with all the various talking heads shouting at each other than a serious rational political issues discussion program.
I don’t recall watching any political program on PBS.

Not saying they don’t exist, I just haven’t watched them.

Jim
 
I think audiences eventually become conditioned to what is presented to them by the media, especially younger audiences who have no point of comparison to the “good ole days.” Yes, in the early years of television, there were actually plenty of shows of high quality, particularly live theatrical performances and music programs, even some of the comedy series and political shows. That day is long gone, and we are continuing to go ever more downhill. The same is true of politics, I believe, and…most everything else in our “culture.” Why not keep the little quality programming that we have alive: maybe, just maybe some of it will rub off on the younger generation and inspire them to loftier heights.
You’re assuming that the younger generation watches PBS.🙂
 
You’re assuming that the younger generation watches PBS.
They do. “Sesame Street” just added an autistic character, and the aforementioned “Austin City Limits” is a huge draw for the CMJ & SXSW kids. Kids also like “Arthur.”
 
Some of the programs on PBS are biased but I do think that they should not completely eliminate funding for it. Perhaps they could simply reduce the funding but not eliminate it.
I’d be all for funding NPR and PBS if they adhered to an updated version of the “Fairness Doctrine” which would mean they’d have to hire someone who wasn’t a progressive liberal, and have programs that appealed to the non ‘progressive’ half of the country…
 
You’re assuming that the younger generation watches PBS.🙂
Good point. No, I don’t assume they do; in fact, I know by means of working with young people that most do not watch PBS or even much of the awful nonsense that airs elsewhere. Television itself as a means of entertainment and information is going the way of the newspaper, the typewriter, the CD and LP; it is fast becoming an anachronism. But maybe by chance, a particular show of better quality will be watched, reluctantly at first, together with other, adult family members, and this may light a fire in the mind of the viewer. Perhaps it is wishful thinking, but I believe it can happen.
 
I’d be all for funding NPR and PBS if they adhered to an updated version of the “Fairness Doctrine” which would mean they’d have to hire someone who wasn’t a progressive liberal, and have programs that appealed to the non ‘progressive’ half of the country…
You do realize that PBS made Pat Buchanan a household name courtesy of “The McLaughlin Group,” which was hosted by a conservative Catholic, right? And before McLaughlin, William F. Buckley (doesn’t get any more “non-progressive” than that.)

The Fairness Doctrine was repealed by Reagan’s FCC at the advent of cable TV, pre-Internet, in his zeal to deregulate everything. Not sure invoking Fairness Doctrine necessarily bolster’s an anti-PBS view.
 
You do realize that PBS made Pat Buchanan a household name courtesy of “The McLaughlin Group,” which was hosted by a conservative Catholic, right? And before McLaughlin, William F. Buckley (doesn’t get any more “non-progressive” than that.)

The Fairness Doctrine was repealed by Reagan’s FCC at the advent of cable TV, pre-Internet, in his zeal to deregulate everything. Not sure invoking Fairness Doctrine necessarily bolster’s an anti-PBS view.
Darn, you had to bring up facts to confuse conservatives. 😃

Jim
 
You do realize that PBS made Pat Buchanan a household name courtesy of “The McLaughlin Group,” which was hosted by a conservative Catholic, right? And before McLaughlin, William F. Buckley (doesn’t get any more “non-progressive” than that.)

The Fairness Doctrine was repealed by Reagan’s FCC at the advent of cable TV, pre-Internet, in his zeal to deregulate everything. Not sure invoking Fairness Doctrine necessarily bolster’s an anti-PBS view.
Pat Buchanan is unknown outside of that tiny subset of people known as “political nerds”. He was never a household name, nor for that matter, was WFB whose magazine “National Review” could never boast much more than a 100,000 readers and was largely supported by donations.
 
Pat Buchanan is unknown outside of that tiny subset of people known as “political nerds”. He was never a household name, nor for that matter, was WFB whose magazine “National Review” could never boast much more than a 100,000 readers and was largely supported by donations.
Pat Buchanan ran for president and was on other talk shows besides The McLaughlin Group.

He was also attacked for being antisemitic in his works on WWII. The attacks of course were baseless and he was correct in his work as historians agreed with him.

He wasn’t an unknown as you suggest here.

Jim
 
Pat Buchanan ran for president and was on other talk shows besides The McLaughlin Group.

He was also attacked for being antisemitic in his works on WWII. The attacks of course were baseless and he was correct in his work as historians agreed with him.

He wasn’t an unknown as you suggest here.

Jim
He certainly wasn’t a “household name”. And the shows he appeared on were shows that appealed to the same demographic as the McLaughlin Group, IOW, that small subset of people known as “political nerds”. I very much doubt more than 5% of the public could identify him from a recent picture.
 
He certainly wasn’t a “household name”. And the shows he appeared on were shows that appealed to the same demographic as the McLaughlin Group, IOW, that small subset of people known as “political nerds”. I very much doubt more than 5% of the public could identify him from a recent picture.
I disagree.

I think many people know who Pat Buchanan is.

Perhaps not younger people who don’t remember his run for president, but certainly middle age and older folks like myself

Jim
 
I disagree.

I think many people know who Pat Buchanan is.

Perhaps not younger people who don’t remember his run for president, but certainly middle age and older folks like myself

Jim
Dana Carvey’s SNL parody of “The McLaughlin Group” (from the era of staunch conservatives like Joe Piscopo, Dennis Miller, Adam Sandler and Victoria Jackson) featured Pat Buchanan quite prominently. Of COURSE he’s a household name. I don’t know anyone who hasn’t heard of him, and they almost always mention SNL (not PBS.) Nobody gets parodied on SNL unless they’re a well-known public figure. Pat Buchanan: definitely well-known.
 
He certainly wasn’t a “household name”. And the shows he appeared on were shows that appealed to the same demographic as the McLaughlin Group, IOW, that small subset of people known as “political nerds”. I very much doubt more than 5% of the public could identify him from a recent picture.
More than 5% of the American public cannot identify ANYONE from a (recent) picture unless they are a famous modern celebrity. That’s because they don’t watch PBS.
 
I disagree.

I think many people know who Pat Buchanan is.

Perhaps not younger people who don’t remember his run for president, but certainly middle age and older folks like myself

Jim
He was on Crossfire on CNN.
I remember his presidential bid as well.
He combined conservatism and populism.
 
More than 5% of the American public cannot identify ANYONE from a (recent) picture unless they are a famous modern celebrity. That’s because they don’t watch PBS.
Charlie Rose is a perfect example of that. Nobody gets to be parodied on SNL unless they’re “a famous modern celebrity” (including the very famous household name Pat Buchanan), whereas the guests on Charlie Rose are very much on par with the relatively obscure guests Jon Stewart had on “The Daily Show” (which was statistically proven not too long ago to have more educated viewers) – of course, I don’t understand how there’s somehow a “liberal” bias to have interview subjects like Charlie Rose’s recent guests a WSJ’s Pentagon reporter, former CIA deputy director, and Reihan Salam, executive editor of National Review – which is a CONSERVATIVE publication. And I’m supposed to applaud pulling the plug on that? Really? 🤷
 
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