What’s at Stake for PBS Viewers? Budget Cuts Could Harm More Than Big Bird and Elmo

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meltzerboy said:
More than 5% of the American public cannot identify ANYONE from a (recent) picture unless they are a famous modern celebrity. That’s because they don’t watch PBS.
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I don’t think they are watching any venues where they might see someone other than “celebrities”. If they aren’t on the plethora of programs like “Dancing with the Stars”, they don’t recognize them.
 
JimR-OCDS said:
I disagree.

I think many people know who Pat Buchanan is.

Perhaps not younger people who don’t remember his run for president, but certainly middle age and older folks like myself

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Shows how many “unseasoned” posters we have.
 
The inability of BOTH major parties to cut any appreciable spending continues. We ring up at least half a trillion new debt every year and there is no stomach to cure what is killing us.
 
St_Pancake said:
The inability of BOTH major parties to cut any appreciable spending continues. We ring up at least half a trillion new debt every year and there is no stomach to cure what is killing us.
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Deficit, not debt. But also debt.
 
randomuser said:
I’m ok with Trump cutting PBS as long as he stops gouging taxpayers for his weekly golfing trips to Mar-a-Lago (a demonstrable strain on both national security and taxpayers’ pocketbooks.) It seems odd that he always has the money for golfing when he’s already on track to out-deficit spend Reagan.
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He’s sitting on a PR goldmine too. He could have Spicey go out and say how Trump and Co is going to knock off the millions-of-dollars trips every weekend. And that money will be re-directed to PBS or other cut programs. Then he looks good. He’s genuinely doing good. And we on the left would look like sourpusses for complaining about it, cos he’s giving something up personally.
 
St_Pancake said:
The inability of BOTH major parties to cut any appreciable spending continues. We ring up at least half a trillion new debt every year and there is no stomach to cure what is killing us.
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That’s because most of the American electorate is selfish and obtuse.

In that regard, I feel sorry for the GOP.
 
St_Pancake said:
The inability of BOTH major parties to cut any appreciable spending continues. We ring up at least half a trillion new debt every year and there is no stomach to cure what is killing us.
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That’s because most of the American electorate is selfish and obtuse and in blue districts not enough people work hard.
 
SuperLuigi said:
That’s because most of the American electorate is selfish and obtuse.

In that regard, I feel sorry for the GOP.
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The GOP is just as selfish and obtuse as the democrats. They brought their misery upon themselves.
 
SuperLuigi said:
That’s because most of the American electorate is selfish and obtuse and in blue districts not enough people work hard.
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Actually, the red states tend to get more in government spending than they pay in taxes. A lot of this spending is welfare programs such as Medicare and social security who mostly go to people who are too lazy to work.
 
stinkcat_14 said:
Actually, the red states tend to get more in government spending than they pay in taxes. A lot of this spending is welfare programs such as Medicare and social security who mostly go to people who are too lazy to work.
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Whether in red states or blue states, I think Medicare and Social Security “mostly go to people” who have worked their whole lives and, in the case of SS, have decided to retire because they are now older and want to relax and enjoy the remainder of their lives a little more or because they are not so healthy now and need to take better care of themselves or family members. What is so wrong with that? Does everyone have to work until they die as in the old days?
 
meltzerboy said:
Whether in red states or blue states, I think Medicare and Social Security “mostly go to people” who have worked their whole lives and, in the case of SS, have decided to retire because they are now older and want to relax and enjoy the remainder of their lives a little more or because they are not so healthy now and need to take better care of themselves or family members. What is so wrong with that? Does everyone have to work until they die as in the old days?
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They retire and expect, with good reason, to get their money back, the money that was confiscated from them with a government pledge they will get it back.
 
Rhubarb said:
He’s sitting on a PR goldmine too. He could have Spicey go out and say how Trump and Co is going to knock off the millions-of-dollars trips every weekend. And that money will be re-directed to PBS or other cut programs. Then he looks good. He’s genuinely doing good. And we on the left would look like sourpusses for complaining about it, cos he’s giving something up personally.
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Yes, but he shows no intention whatsoever of EVER cutting Mar-a-Lago from all the wasteful spending.
 
meltzerboy said:
Whether in red states or blue states, I think Medicare and Social Security “mostly go to people” who have worked their whole lives and, in the case of SS, have decided to retire because they are now older and want to relax and enjoy the remainder of their lives a little more or because they are not so healthy now and need to take better care of themselves or family members. What is so wrong with that? Does everyone have to work until they die as in the old days?
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Absolutely agree:thumbsup:
 
JonNC said:
They retire and expect, with good reason, to get their money back, the money that was confiscated from them with a government pledge they will get it back.
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So that makes it appropriate to confiscate the money from somebody else? Two wrongs don’t make a right.
 
meltzerboy said:
Whether in red states or blue states, I think Medicare and Social Security “mostly go to people” who have worked their whole lives and, in the case of SS, have decided to retire because they are now older and want to relax and enjoy the remainder of their lives a little more or because they are not so healthy now and need to take better care of themselves or family members. What is so wrong with that? Does everyone have to work until they die as in the old days?
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The big problem with that is that Social Security and Medicare are bankrupting our country. When Social Security was implemented, about half the people born at that time were not expected to live to collect it. Now, we live longer but we have not adjusted the age to collect SS and Medicare. There are those who are able to work, but would prefer not to. There are those who have the means to pay for their healthcare, but working people are forced to sacrifice to subsidize their healthcare. That is a recipe for disaster.
 
stinkcat_14 said:
So that makes it appropriate to confiscate the money from somebody else? Two wrongs don’t make a right.
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True. So we need to confiscate the wealth of every federal official who was complicit in the immoral spending of the trust fund over the last fifty years. Then, the government should be required to sell land and assets to make up the difference.

That work?
 
stinkcat_14 said:
The big problem with that is that Social Security and Medicare are bankrupting our country. When Social Security was implemented, about half the people born at that time were not expected to live to collect it. Now, we live longer but we have not adjusted the age to collect SS and Medicare. There are those who are able to work, but would prefer not to. There are those who have the means to pay for their healthcare, but working people are forced to sacrifice to subsidize their healthcare. That is a recipe for disaster.
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Of course it is. The demographics have also changed. But the biggest issue is still that SS "contributions " were stolen in order to pay for other federal social programs starting in 1967. The Democrats started this theft and misuse of the SS trust fund, but Republicans have been complicit.
 
JonNC said:
True. So we need to confiscate the wealth of every federal official who was complicit in the immoral spending of the trust fund over the last fifty years. Then, the government should be required to sell land and assets to make up the difference.

That work?
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Nobody has a moral entitlement to welfare and nobody can dispute that Social Security and Medicare are welfare programs.
 
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