What 10 Priests Say About Gay Marriage

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10 Catholic priests were recently asked to write roughly 4 sentences on the topic of “gay marriage”. Here is what they said…

What 10 Priests Say About Gay Marriage

Gotta love seeing priests stand up and talking about the Church’s less popular teachings.
 
Gotta love seeing priests stand up and talking about the Church’s less popular teachings.
Gotta love seeing grown men mocking others’ deeply held beliefs with terms such as ‘infantile’? :ehh:
 
A good display of truth & honesty.
Everyone knows the truth, though some sadly ignore it and pretend imagination is reality. It is good to see unity of that truth from those leading parishioners and knowing those persons are faithful to the Church.
 
10 Catholic priests were recently asked to write roughly 4 sentences on the topic of “gay marriage”. Here is what they said…

What 10 Priests Say About Gay Marriage

Gotta love seeing priests stand up and talking about the Church’s less popular teachings.
Marvelous! Spoken from a basis in Natural Law, the Church, and as one priest noted “First Principles” from which everything else must result. Two and two will never equal five even if the person making the claim is sweet and kind and we don’t want to hurt her feelings.

I noticed one priest pointed to the fallacy of using the words “Traditional Marriage” since it’s relative to the specific tradition cited. I have started using the term Natural Marriage because it is reflective not only of Natural Law, and biology, but also reflects what is normal for society and optimal for the raising of children.

Is this a good site? I have never referenced it before and will check back for more words of wisdom.
 
Is this a good site? I have never referenced it before and will check back for more words of wisdom.
I certainly think so. “What 10 Priests Say” is a whole series, this is just the third one. They did one on Contraception and one on Video Games as well.
 
I certainly think so. “What 10 Priests Say” is a whole series, this is just the third one. They did one on Contraception and one on Video Games as well.
The one on video games is another thread on CAF, which stimulated quite a lively discussion as I recall.
 
My only disagreement with it is Fr. Pope’s position that “gay” is misused. with reference to homosexuals.

One of the things that drove my dad nuts was how gay had come to mean homosexual. Never being one to agree with my dad unless I was sure he was right, I was on the lookout for how gay came to mean gay.

Well, it turns out to be a little more complicated. The word was sexualized as far back as the 1400s, and generally described heterosexual sexual immorality (i.e. free, unfettered, happy, joyous, partying, letting it all hang out, etc). The straight connection with libertines and lascivious behavior easily lent itself to the other kind. And by the mid-20th century, the switch had been made.
 
Well, it turns out to be a little more complicated. The word was sexualized as far back as the 1400s, and generally described heterosexual sexual immorality (i.e. free, unfettered, happy, joyous, partying, letting it all hang out, etc). The straight connection with libertines and lascivious behavior easily lent itself to the other kind. And by the mid-20th century, the switch had been made.
To be more clear, the switch was made when the gay movement responded to anti-gay harassment commonplace in the mid-20th century by using the slogan “Good As You” at parades, and as such, “gay” came to become identical to “homosexual.” Eventually, heterosexuals tried to “reclaim” the word by turning the word into an anti-gay insult, so we’ve come full circle.
 
I certainly think so. “What 10 Priests Say” is a whole series, this is just the third one. They did one on Contraception and one on Video Games as well.
I’ve hung out with Fr. Peter Junipero Hannah. Can’t say enough positive things about him.
 
I’ve hung out with Fr. Peter Junipero Hannah. Can’t say enough positive things about him.
Interesting as I particularly appreciate his contribution. So he is your parish priest or in your area? I saw many familar names on this list. But had not heard of Fr Peter Junipero Hannah.
 
Interesting as I particularly appreciate his contribution. So he is your parish priest or in your area? I saw many familar names on this list. But had not heard of Fr Peter Junipero Hannah.
No, I met him through the Western Province of the Dominicans. I don’t know if he’s been assigned to a parish, he was just ordained and I have mainly known him as Brother Peter Junipero until recently.
 
No, I met him through the Western Province of the Dominicans. I don’t know if he’s been assigned to a parish, he was just ordained and I have mainly known him as Brother Peter Junipero until recently.
Thank you I will watch for his writings.
Lisa
 
*"Fr Peter Junipero Hannah from California

It is an infantile idea that two persons with the same reproductive organs could contract a marriage, but I don’t think the “solution” to this recent political juggernaut is focusing sights on it in red-eyed condemnation. The idea of “same-sex unions” only came about because of a prior failure in heterosexual marriage. In this new era of the Church’s life in the Western world, I think Catholics would do well to not get overstrained about the evident social disorders all about us, but focus instead on living faithful, humble, and devout lives from within, beginning with the family. The spiritual and intellectual energies ignited in this way from within, will naturally work outward and—according to God’s providence—affect the culture as they will."
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I agree with this. People, Christian or otherwise, are too caught up in winning a legal battle against homosexuals having the same liberties as heterosexuals.

In reality what we have is a cultural war, a battle of ideas, that can only be won on the cultural battle field and not in a court room.
 
"Fr Peter Junipero Hannah from California

It is an infantile idea that two persons with the same reproductive organs could contract a marriage, but I don’t think the “solution” to this recent political juggernaut is focusing sights on it in red-eyed condemnation. The idea of “same-sex unions” only came about because of a prior failure in heterosexual marriage. In this new era of the Church’s life in the Western world, I think Catholics would do well to not get overstrained about the evident social disorders all about us, but focus instead on living faithful, humble, and devout lives from within, beginning with the family. The spiritual and intellectual energies ignited in this way from within, will naturally work outward and—according to God’s providence—affect the culture as they will."

I agree with this. People, Christian or otherwise, are too caught up in winning a legal battle against homosexuals having the same liberties as heterosexuals.

In reality what we have is a cultural war, a battle of ideas, that can only be won on the cultural battle field and not in a court room.
Although I am in full agreement with Fr Junipero’s statement, I think you have misinterpreted several things.

I don’t know what “liberties” heterosexuals have the homosexuals do not have. Maybe you can explain what you mean?

There is lots of handwringing about “the one you love” but a) that has NEVER been a criteria for civil marriage b) far as I know you are not asked about your sex life when you order in a restaurant, buy a house, get a job, travel,…IOW homosexuals can do whatever they want within the same laws heterosexuals must also follow.

Fr Junipero has pointed out the reality, that we have degraded Natural Marriage to the point that it is no longer considered a lifelong bond for purposes of bearing and raising children but has become “what makes me happy.” Thus if my spouse doesn’t “make me happy” anymore, I can dump him and look for another. Marriage has become more for entertainment, self gratification rather than self giving, and reasons other than the actual purpose for which it served in civil societies as well as adhering to certain religious criteria.

Thus if Joe and Bob want to get “married” and they make each other happy…well why not? Of course given that marriage was based on the biological reality that a man and a woman are necessary to create a child, it’s absolutely absurd to call their relationship marriage. But I can understand why those without any real understanding of marriage in the context of history, tradition, sociology and biology think the term is relative.

As to the court cases, while I don’t give a hoot what Bob and Joe do in their bedrooms, the reality is that gay activists are systematically tearing apart both societal and religious norms to the detriment of society and frankly to their own detriment. Being gay might be fun but it has a lot of unpleasant and unfortunate consequences. Further the gay activist cohort is using court decisions as a cudgel to destroy religious liberty in this country. That is their ultimate goal and I believe must be fought.
 
Although I am in full agreement with Fr Junipero’s statement, I think you have misinterpreted several things.
I don’t think you are. Fr Junipero is taking the focus off the symptoms of the problem and asking what are we doing wrong. His answer is “Family”. I would go further and say there is also a lack of community and too much individualism.
I don’t know what “liberties” heterosexuals have the homosexuals do not have. Maybe you can explain what you mean?
Well here is an obvious one, homosexuals cannot be married by the state in some countries. And therefore cannot experience the same legal benefits that heterosexuals have because of state marriage. Emphasis on legal benefits because thats all gay marriage is about.
Thus if Joe and Bob want to get “married” and they make each other happy…well why not? Of course given that marriage was based on the biological reality that a man and a woman are necessary to create a child, it’s absolutely absurd to call their relationship marriage. But I can understand why those without any real understanding of marriage in the context of history, tradition, sociology and biology think the term is relative.
The term is necessarily relative unless you live in a theocracy. State marriage involves more than simply reproductive organs and is subject to change as society changes.
Further the gay activist cohort is using court decisions as a cudgel to destroy religious liberty in this country. That is their ultimate goal and I believe must be fought.
How are they destroying religious liberties? Is the Catholic church being forced to marry gay people? I don’t think so. Perhaps you are just offended by any legal system that does not adhere to Catholic moral beliefs about human sexuality and otherwise. The problem is, a catholic legal system will never prevail in anything but a Catholic theocracy where everybody is Catholic.
 
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