What are your ideas for the LGBT person's vocation in the Church?

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If a person wants to join a seminary and has a difficulty that impedes it,it is better not to be us,but an experienced priest to give him the time and an interview to explain it.
There is much more they know and it it may be much more profitable and charitable to have a conversation face to face.
We all have our limitations for one thing or another.
 
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Gab123 said:
I think that people with same sex attraction need to stop announcing it to the world iand keep their sexual struggles private, just like anyone else who struggles with being chaste. also, the Church needs to speak loud and clear about the agenda-driven normalization of the gay lifestyle and its spiritual detriment on children, family and society…
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I don’t think that most gay people have an agenda. They just lead their lives like everyone else, but don’t try to hide anything either. I’m gay, but I don’t walk up to strangers and say, “BTW, I’m gay.” But if someone asks me if I’m married, I just tell them that I have a partner. When we went to our local ELCA Lutheran church for the first time, we introduced ourselves as a couple. My partner has always been out at work and I went with him to an office party. He introduced me to his colleagues at work as his partner.
 
I don’t think I’ve been around Catholics enough to even understand this question. Can someone help me?

If a vocation is what you are called to then how does having SSA change anything? I mean secular SS marriage is a non-starter, but every other kind of vocation is still open, right?
 
For singles. Which holds for single heterosexuals like me as well as for homosexuals. Of course, they can never marry, not same sex anyway. But the oath is essentially the same for everybody. Only married heterosexuals can have sexual intercourse, and only with their spouse.
My diocese doesn’t hire non Catholics, so far as I know. Good policy.
 
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I don’t think that most gay people have an agenda. They just lead their lives like everyone else, but don’t try to hide anything either
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Neither do I .
I think most people live their lives as they possibly can.
And what they hide or do not hide,or handle as they can or find more appropriate ,well…it is very much like the rest of us.
And personally,I do not know anyone with an agenda. Only that some persons make of it a bigger issue,again,like we sometimes make a bigger issue sometimes,one aspect of our lives.
 
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They have a vocation already, likely as a single lay person
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A large number of homosexual men are married to women you know.
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I don’t know that there are a “large number” of homosexual men who are married to women. This used to be much more common among gay men of an older generation, especially people who are now in their 70s or older. They got married to women because being gay and being single were frowned upon, both by their families and by their employers. That’s not true so much any more, and younger gay men are much less likely to have ever been married to a woman.
 
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I don’t think I’ve been around Catholics enough to even understand this question. Can someone help me?

If a vocation is what you are called to then how does having SSA change anything? I mean secular SS marriage is a non-starter, but every other kind of vocation is still open, right?
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Anyone?
 
I think it is because of the scandals that involve boys, so that is why they can’t become priests.
 
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Unless they’ve shown they’ve overcome all homosexual tendencies for more than three years of complete chastity and no inclination then no
 
Thorolfr said:
I don’t think that most gay people have an agenda. They just lead their lives like everyone else,
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Realize that the whole LGBTQ movement is a worldly-driven agenda to normalize what merely a few decades ago was not only considered a vice but a psychological disorder, while the Church itself for 2,000 years has and still defines homosexuality as intrinsically disordered and the acts as gravely sinful. Obviously the world hates the Church’s position on this issue, and the Church can simply respond that individuals who have these tendencies have to be treated compassionately, but make no mistake about it; the Church loves the sinner but hates and condemns the sin, because the Church is here to guide people out of the slavery of sin and the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil, in order for us to be set free from sin and be saved.

The fact that the movement has successfully indoctrinated generations of people to lead sexually depraved lifestyles as if it was no different than a sexual relationship between a husband and wife, goes to show the impact that propaganda via entertainment, movies and pride parades has on the average person…

The Bible warned exactly about this issue, with the warning “do not be deceived”. Yes, love the sinner and have compassion for anyone and everyone struggling with any particular sin; but by all means the Church condemns the lie of same-sex marriage and identifies the agents that push the agenda as those doing the work of the devil…
 
I doubt a man with SS attraction will ever know if he can handle male confessions.
I don’t think a person’s sinful tendency should highlight their chosen path to sanctity.
Unless there is a good purpose for other’s to know, a person’s SSA should be mostly unknown.
 
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Unless they’ve shown they’ve overcome all homosexual tendencies for more than three years of complete chastity and no inclination then no
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You know that there are hundreds of gay men who are priests, right, at least here in the US? And many of them are public about it. I don’t know how anyone can look around and not see this.
 
Yes. And many are furthering the agenda while vehemently denying that there is any agenda at all. They are so imbedded in it that they can’t see the forest for the trees. Pray for these lost souls.
 
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In the San Francisco Bay Area, gay men, lesbian women, and transgendered people, are in the pews of Catholic churches, many times with their spouses or partners, and many times with their children. I wonder why you assume that being alone and celibate for their lives is the only life they can lead. It is certainly not the case where I live.
 
Historical ways that LGBT people have served in the Church throughout the centuries:
  1. Getting married and having children
  2. Living a generous single life
  3. In either of the two above: working in various vocations (trades, crafts, agriculture, construction, retail, management, military, law enforcement, civic service, science, engineering, education, academia, journalism/writing, administration, merchants / finance, homemaker & stay-at-home mom, etc.)
  4. Priestly and religious life (nuns, monks, deacons, priests, bishops, popes)
 
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I do not want to play it by ear.
I know the vetting is carefully done and it has experienced psychologists’support. At least what I know.
There are traits and deep rooted issues that may be difficult to eradicate or may become harmful in time,of different sorts,so what I know ( and it is limited…) is that it is personal individual and not out of blanket statements but for careful specific reasons.
I suggest you ask a priest or priests if they wish to share their knowledge and experience about this. It is a major calling…and a nine,ten years journey until a man becomes a priest.
 
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What about regular man hearing the confessions of a women? Isn’t it kind of the same.
 
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