What are your thoughts on women dressing modestly?

[Tis_Bearself]

I have quite a few

One of these years I will have to visit India. I have a lot of clients there.

 

[cookie-san]

Oh which ones???

Yes you should. Very active Catholic Community here.

 

[Tis_Bearself]

They are all internal to my company. It is a big software tech company. We have India offices and a lot of people from India who work in the various North American offices of my company as well.
India is a great country for software and technology bra(name removed by moderator)ower!

 

[twf]

Yes, why do men get a pass on trousers? I very much doubt that Our Lord were trousers! He definitely didn’t wear jeans…

 

[tweedlealice]

Blessings
How we dress sends a message. The boxer, who bit an ear off,(can’t recall name)went on a date w a “hot dressed” young lady. She agreed to go up to his hotel room at 0200hrs. Now, there are 3 problems here. Her hot dressing, going up to his hotel room at 0200hrs and I’m sure, lip locking.
She said, she was available. Her mouth said,”NO!” But her advertisement was,”YES!”
She was raped. Girls have a right to say NO anywhere in the midst of a sexual encounter.
AVOID the occasion of sin. She was responsible for that occurrence. He’s RESPONSIBLE b/c he shouldn’t have invited her up. He needed to stop w the NO! Men are not Saints. There are some good men. They won’t invite you to their hotel room. Reaching our kids that they can say, NO, and the guy stopping isn’t a reality. It would be a miracle. We teach our kids NOT TO PLAY W MATCHES OR THEY WILL GET BURNED!
Same thing. Dress nicely. In fact, on dates pants are good. Skirts need pantyhose and a girdle.
We are not sex toys for rampaging male hormones. We are treasures, to keep beautiful in mind, soul and body. How can we stop this, sex is our right, philosophy?
Pray for pure hearts and bodies.
In Christ’s love
Tweedlealice

 

[Bruised_Reed]

But her advertisement was,”YES!”

NO IT DID NOT.

CLOTHING CAN NOT GIVE CONSENT.

STOP PERPETUATING THIS MYTH.

 

[Bruised_Reed]

She was responsible for that occurrence.

NO SHE IS NOT.

 

[Bruised_Reed]

In fact, on dates pants are good. Skirts need pantyhose and a girdle.

What in the world does this have to do with anything??? If you say that dressing “hot” led to sexual assault then you give permission to any rapist no matter what the victim is wearing. THEY DON’T CARE WHAT THEIR TARGET IS WEARING! What they want is someone that they can control and a woman in a mousy, modest outfit who appears timid and smiles when told and checks her watch when asked the time is more vulnerable than a woman in a short skirt and high heels who carries herself with confidence and doesn’t check the time.

 

[tweedlealice]

I stand by this. You are telling young ladies to dress in tight mini skirts w thong underwear and tight fitting tops and it’s OK. Your date will respect you. I’m talking hooker like clothing. It is cruel to make yourself inviting to a guy. They are VISUAL creatures.
We don’t have to wear burkas but our body language communicates messages like our mouth. RAPE and SEXUAL CHILD ABUSE ARE HORRIBLE! We will still have those crimes.
But, being responsible in all the messages we give will cut down on the uncomfortable things that happen on dates.
Even if you have modest dress, the guys of this generation feel its a right to have sex in exchange for a date.
There was something to be said, when dating wasn’t till 18 yo w a coming out party. The men were financially secure. They had variable morals. Being careful was important. But, there had been screening. Did the precious girls always wait for their pure admittance into dating. No! There are always those who press the envelope and tease for the excitement of discovering the mystery of sex.
Is sex before marriage OK? Avoid the occasion of sin! AVOID TEMPTATION. I took the lessons I was taught to heart.
In Christ’s love
Tweedlealice

 

[tweedlealice]

I don’t know why those of us expounding Christ have different views on this. The girl is still the victim of rape. But, dressing in certain ways make the job easier for a frisky, horney date w no morals.
Pretend Jesus is your date. Well, He won’t rape you regardless but He might be uncomfortable. It isn’t fair to the male. We have to learn rules in a society. Temptation can draw anyone in. Leave your wallet out… OPPS!
Think of the song, FANCY! Dress for the role you’re entering. Proper dress is protecting our children in a Hedonistic society.
Jesus, open their eyes and hearts to teach good things to their kids to protect them.
In Christ’s love
Tweedlealice
THIS IS NOT A MYTH!
For Purity

Saint Joseph, father and guardian of virgins, to whose faithful keeping Christ Jesus, innocence itself, and Mary, the virgin of virgins was entrusted, I pray and beseech you by that twofold and most precious charge, by Jesus and Mary, to save me from all uncleanness, to keep my mind untainted, my heart pure, and my body chaste; and to help me always to serve Jesus and Mary in perfect chastity. Amen.

 

[Bruised_Reed]

You are telling young ladies to dress in tight mini skirts w thong underwear and tight fitting tops and it’s OK.

I’m not telling women what they can wear period. That is an important point.

Your date will respect you

…?

I’m talking hooker like clothing.

You have stereotypical notion of what a hooker wears. In my neck if the woods they wear parkas, cuz it’s cold, yo.

It is cruel to make yourself inviting to a guy.

Okay, so I guess it’s time to pull out the birkas because whatever a particular woman wears is going to be inviting to soneone.

They are VISUAL creatures

Poor babies can’t control themselves, is that it? Aww.

We don’t have to wear burkas but our body language communicates messages like our mouth

AND RAPISTS DON’T LISTEN. THEY DON’T CARE. You don’t get that.

But, being responsible in all the messages we give will cut down on the uncomfortable things that happen on dates.

OMG It will not. Men and women knowing what consent is will though.

I bet you think men can’t be raped.

 

[Bruised_Reed]

I don’t know why those of us expounding Christ have different views on this.

Because you are wrong.

But, dressing in certain ways make the job easier for a frisky, horney date w no morals.

It really doesn’t. It’s my mission to disabuse as many people of this myth that I can. Thank you for the set up.

Pretend Jesus is your date. Well, He won’t rape you

There are not enough eyeballs in the world to roll…

It isn’t fair to the male.

Nope. You are saying that rape is about the lack of self control and insulting men in general. Sexual assault is about violence, humiliation, control, having power over soneone, taking away something important from someone. And I’m not talking about something sexual but a person’s sense of self worth, ability to feel safe, not gave nightmares, not try to regain agency over their body by either exploiting themselves or never letting anyone touch them. What motivates the rapist at a night club is the same thing that motivates the neighbor who rapes the family friend or babysitter.

Leave your wallet out… OPPS!

It only tempts bad people. It would not tempt me. In fact I might stick around until the owner showed up.

 

[Roseeurekacross]

Rape isn’t about sex. It’s about power.

Ever spoken to a male from a culture where women cover everything except ankles? The exposed ankle becomes the equivalent of an exposed breast.

 

[graciew]

And sewing a bit.
You can always add length with a flattering fabric that matches. Sometimes clothes just shrink, I have done that.
O sew skirts,it is fairly easy . I just takes a good pattern.( or a kind relative who can sew )

I think Macy’s has a line ,American rag,that has longer dresses. Well it also depends on your height…
I could wear dresses 24/7,I just love them.
But it is a matter of taste,just that…and what circumstances require,or being practical at times and wear what is most suitable for the task

 

[tweedlealice]

I get it! What you don’t get is God’s message! Don’t activate sin. A rapist has raped nuns. There are rapists, serial rapists and there are guys w low morals and sexual fantasies. We, as women, should NOT LET THERE DREAMS COME TRUE.
Stereotyping hookers!! Really! Does your city not have a red light district? That is real life! But, CSI and Police shows are quite factual.
The only dressed up ladies of the night( who are God’s children and are loved by their Father) are expensive call girls or massage therapists. I don’t live in that group but I had a niece and a family acquaintance in this job field. So don’t talk to me about stereotypeing.
None wore waist high jeans or maxi skirts or normal length skirts. You know what I mean.
I’m sorry if you were raped or know someone. I’ve seen the court programs showing Real cases and how the victim is made guilty.
If we are dressed w decorum and ladylike outfits, which are in style, there is no reflection back on her dress being helpful. We aren’t living in Utopia. The real world has bad stuff in it. A rapist doesn’t dress like one would think a rapist might dress. ?? Teens are in compromised situations often. Why make it more difficult for them.
Your desire to defend the victim is honorable. My desire is to PREVENT a victim.
In Christ love
Tweedlealice
We should should be on the same page.

 

[Roseeurekacross]

We, as women, should NOT LET THERE DREAMS COME TRUE.

Please, never ever say that to anyone who has experienced such a heinous crime.
That would be seen as entirely inappropriate and insensitive. If a judge had that attitude, they would find themselves in a bit of hot water.

 

[DarkLight]

Here’s my thought from personal experience:

When I was dealing with sexual harassment, how nicely I was dressed seemed to have more of an actual impact than how much skin I was showing. Honestly it was my professional outfits that attracted the most creepy attention. They weren’t more revealing, but I had put on makeup, done my hair, worn jewelry, and all those things women do to make themselves look nice. So a long but professional skirt and a nice button-up blouse, where I’d made an effort to look nice, drew a lot more attention than going out in skinny jeans and a tank top.

But I think it would be silly to suggest I should hide my hair and not wear makeup or jewelry to avoid that kind of attention.

 

[Bruised_Reed]

What you don’t get is God’s message!

God’s message is don’t violate other people. Were the children abused by priests immodest? No, they were vulnerable. You can’t make sexual assault about the lack of modesty without bringing down all victims.

We, as women, should NOT LET THERE DREAMS COME TRUE.

I am agog.

Stereotyping hookers!! Really! Does your city not have a red light district?

LOL
No.

I’m sorry if you were raped or know someone

Don’t even…

Blahblahblah

My desire is to PREVENT a victim.

No, you don’t know what makes a potential victim. That’s not what convicted rapists have reported.

 

[tweedlealice]

I’m an old lady here. I was a critical RN and worked ER. I know things you will hope you never know.
We are to have teachable spirits.
My issue is to think about how we behave. It does affect others. If my driving causes someone to give me a finger, it’s my fault, if my driving was that bad. It’s not terrible. We went to different schools and churches. My message is considerate for us all. My nuns taught purity.
I am not wrong.
The church has lost a good population for various reasons. Teens do not have the morals of the 50’s. There were rapes then. Evil exists.
You’ll not understand. Society has changed but God has not.
Why are Christians. Pro-Choice??
That’s why we disagree.
In Christ’s love
Tweedlealice
Holy Spirit, behind our thoughts are Your thoughts. Let us be one w You
In Jesus name.

 

[tweedlealice]

God, teach us how You wish us to live. Caring for each other. Helping us to heal. in Jesus Name.

Why would you think I would say things like this to a rape victim? I had to assist w rape exams in the ER.