What can Catholics do to stand up against police brutality?

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One of the more disturbing things about the Cato data are the cases of sexual misconduct. There’s no explaining that one away with “she-should-have” or “she shouldn’t have.” Rape and sexual assault are wrong.
 
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To provide some balance,I’d like to state that there are also some superb police officers out there who are kind,friendly,approachable,fair minded and balanced who really go out of their way to try to build relationships with the people in the communities that they protect and police.
These police officers do a great job and deserve a round of 👏 and they really put the “baddie” police officers to shame.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...s/news-story/dc9719b24bdb40a43fb05b703883437a

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...p/news-story/8764ad8e8d84580ff8fb4283db404e09
 
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If they killed an unarmed person, it’s more than a small mistake that should be swept under the carpet.
 
Really? That was an awfully sad case. The video footage of being shot dead in front of his wife or girlfriend
 
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Some people think cops are always right. I definitely think cops deserve more respect. I don’t think it’s too far fetched to acknowledge that there are crooked cops who abuse their power. I wonder why there are bad race relations between black people and the police in the 1990s
 
Regarding in the linked video,the woman was not armed.
Luckily these days people have got camera 🎥 phones etc to keep the “bad” police officers more accountable however there are instances where police have grabbed or smashed (or tried to demand) people’s phones so that way they couldn’t have documented evidence of any “excesses”.
 
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is the video disturbing, yes, a full grown man, especially a police officer cant take down a skinny girl , with out punching her or beating on her ? But context is always key, there is more to the story which isn’t told. An then you have to take into consideration how much force are the police allowed to use when coming up against an unruly person who is spitting, kicking, biting and punching, and the person is smaller than them. The officer i suppose could have used his tazer, and then what would the screaming be… or he could have maced her i suppose…

But really the only answer to changing Police policy and Police training is to start a movement that either results in a law being created to address both Police Policy and training, or moves law enforcement to make the changes on their own. An to also have a lawyer who is willing to go to court to have these issues addressed.

The thing is it wont happen. Maybe never. Change only comes at the height of things being no longer acceptable, society is reactive, not proactive. It costs money to create a movement, to set up a website, to create flyers, set up an event at a park, set up a speaking event… so basically you either need to have the money or find a sponsor. Then good luck finding a lawyer who wants to take on the system , in the courts and to actually write up a some kind of comprehensive law on the issue, and then good luck finding the money to pay said lawyers.

When all you have is spotty events where people moan and complain about how horrible it was that something bad happened, and the only result is some spotty rioting here an there that the left labels as " protesting " and then in return you get pandering by leaders in law enforcement. nothing changes.

BUT then again police are not the real problem, people are, we wouldnt need police if people could behave. Police are not there to police good people, they are there to police the unruly and unlawful people.

When the police decide to misuse and abuse their authoraty , the correct thing to do is to use the courts as they were created to do, not burn a city to the ground. In the heat of the moment though to prevent police abuse, people have to be willing to get involved, get hurt, and get arrested, and not many are. An then one has to be able to quickly discern the situation to figure out if the officer is abusing their authoraty or not.

And perhaps if anything a law needs to be created that allows citizens to interviene against police when there is reason to believe that the police are abusing their authoraty , but that would be a very slippery slope and would need very detailed guidelines and even then may not do anything but cause excuses why someone didnt obey a lawful order.
 
I wasn’t specifically referring to this video. Just in general. 😊
 
I’m aware. However, in many instances the officer doesn’t KNOW in that moment that the person is unarmed. I am thinking that in most of these situations the person might look like they’re reaching for something. The officer has a second or two to think of what he needs to do.

I wouldn’t work for the police force for all of the tea in China. It makes me shudder to think that my 17-year-old son wants to make this career. I don’t think we’re in Mayberry anymore.
 
It is still sad or at least in my opinion wrong for someone to lose their life over such misunderstandings. I think there should be consequences for that.
 
I agree. And let’s just say that the situation was reversed. The officer didn’t act and the suspect DID have a weapon and killed the officer. Also a very sad outcome.
 
A video, no matter how accurate it claims or seems to be, tells only part of the story. We have trials by jury and the police are under unprecedented, almost impossible level of scrutiny. Another thing that we might consider avoiding is being more upset over some perceived injustice than the person actually involved.

The excessive media bias against the Church, the President, the police, gun owners, conservatives in general and morality, have lead me to abandon the media completely. Catholic radio is it.
 
Videos or not,I think many people are already aware that unfortunately there are some police out there who have “issues”.
It is only now that we live in the internet era/information era that it is brought more to our forefront.

I agree that the vast majority of media can often be “too left” and it is sad, but at the same time I believe it’s also not good/unbalanced to be “too right” either.
Anytime we are not “in the middle” to me is suggestive of unbalanced somewhat in our thinking.
 
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In 31 years as an LEO, I saw many who were not suited - many who were hired for leftist/progressive reasons! However, the leftist/progressive stereotype of “police brutality” is patently unfair, paints with a broad brush (the same tactics they condemn against themselves!) and tends to assume that the governmental entities involved will take no action against such offending officers. We see a decline in the professionalism of the police specifically because progressives have lead the attack against them. Who wants to be subjected to constant ridicule? It comes with low-moderate pay, horrible hours, high divorce, alcoholism and drug addiction rates and many other “pluses.”

Along with the move to disarm the public, where is this train headed? I think the OP is perhaps rightly indignant, but truthfully, is this a “Catholic” issue?

Again, it is human nature to be more incensed over an injustice than those who were actually involved. We should endeavor to resist that tendency.
 
Well said, I agree with everything you just said. Respect authority and if authority was wrong, take it up in court.
 
It’s an extremely sad and troubling case, and I had no intention to be glib or ‘whoopsie-daisy’ about it.
There is always room for reform.
 
Right now people are leaving law enforcement in droves and agencies are having an extremely hard time finding qualified candidates.

Low pay
Long hours, weekends, holidays
Usually mandatory overtime due to short staffing
Dangerous work conditions
Expected to be a lawyer, criminology expert, mental health consular, and family consular (By the way we aren’t going to train you to be any of these and your going to get paid less than all of them but if you don’t get it right your fired)
Constant threat of lawsuit, firing, prison time for doing the job the best you can
Political pressure and corruption (I cant tell you how many times I have seen criminals get off because they know Commissioner X or congressman Y. Bad officer A screws up and its ignore because he’s friends with supervisor X, good officer B screws up and he’s fired.)
Officer’s cant get training unless they use vacation time for it.
A almost assured case of PTSD if not more mental conditions.
Extremely hard on families
And IF you manage to survive and retire you get a retirement that you will qualify for food stamps.

So sign on up and join the force!

Things Catholics can do? Reach out to the officers and let them know they do care about them. Our local agency doesn’t even have any kind of spiritual assistance or chaplain program anymore (it might offend someone)
 
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I remember watching a program on Daniel Holtzclaw, a police officer, who was convicted of raping woman in the poor sections of town if he found they had a criminal record or would blackmail them into sexual acts if he found drugs.

 
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