What Did Jesus Write in the Sand?

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What is rude about my comment? I’m stating facts. Ask a million people what Jesus wrote and you’ll get a million different answers. So what? How does that impact you?
Speculating is a waste of time.
You’re right. No one knows what Jesus wrote. That is why for some of us it’s interesting to speculate what he might have written and do not think it a waste of time. From what I have learned from scripture, and I do NOT, nor ever, claim to be an expert, God does everything for a reason. I think many of the posters here gave some interesting answers.
How does this “Impact you” if we discuss this?

Your rudeness stems from the Fact that it’s none of your business how I, nor anyone else, spend our idle time. I’m sure there are activities that you do during the course of the day that I might think a waste of time. But that, of course, is None of my business.

Thank you, for not calling those who find this topic interesting “Idiots” like one UnCharitable person did.
 
Many of us Catholics like to meditate on the Life of Our Lord. I like to wonder what games Jesus and his cousin John the Baptist played.
Bishop Sheen thought Our Lord wrote the sins of those about to stone her.
This is more inspiring than another thread on masturbation.
 
Your rudeness stems from the Fact that it’s none of your business how I, nor anyone else, spend our idle time.
thistle and the other one are also giving a valid opinion
on the subject. If you can look past what you perceive as
rudeness, they are saying that they don’t believe it’s right
to speculate on this. That is also a valid opinion on the
subject, and some people find the phrase “none of your
business” to be rude also.

I like when everyone can be heard and no one gets mad.
 
I picked up a big rock out of the parking lot today and put it where it goes in it’s landscaping. It was big, with sharp edges,
and I wondered if this large rock was more like what they would
actually throw than the small stones I had always imagined.
It felt heavy, and smooth in my hand, despite it’s sharp edges.
Someone else with a hand just like mine long ago held a rock like this maybe, and instead of using it for landscaping, they threw it viciously at a person in anger until they died. And I wondered how it would feel to have this rock hit you. And then it keeps happening, done by all the people in town, until it kills you.
And the people didn’t think of this idea on their own, God did.

It would be interesting to find that Jesus actually wrote something and what it was, but not as interesting as the question of why God would prescribe such an activity, when later He would change His mind?
 
I haven’t gone through this thread, so forgive me if this has already been said.

I asked my priest this, and he said that the likely answer was that Jesus was just fiddling in the sand out of boredom. He was getting tired of the Pharisees always testing him.
 
I don’t think it is necessary to try to figure out what Jesus wrote on the ground. Whatever it was, it so pricked the conscience of those who wanted to trap him that they left without a stone being thrown. That being so I think it is helpful for context to look at the story as a whole.

First, those who caught the woman in adultery had probably framed her, after all adultery is not the sort of thing done in the open. That being said, they were complicit, probably, in her sin since they knew she was adultering herself and instead of counseling her they sought instead to use her as a political tool against Jesus.

Next, because of this they showed that they could not have cared less about her sin but only about the opportunity she presented to them.

Because they did not care abut her sin, their question to Jesus concerning the Law was irrelevant. They did not care about her sin and so they did not care about the Law which her sin had violated.

The question they pose has nothing to do with righteousness and everything to with politics. Roman Law held that people could uphold local law and custom but that only the Romans could execute prisoners. Since the crime of adultery commanded the death penalty, and her accusers knew that, they sought only to trap Jesus because if He commands them to stone her, then He has violated Roman Law and if He commands them to release her then He has violated the Law of God.

But Jesus only spoke this, “Let Him who is without sin cast the first stone.”

Well, who was the only one without sin present at that time?

Jesus.

Jesus was claiming His right as executioner under the Law, and not only that righteousness demands death for sin, but that, as the Perfect Righteousness of God, He alone was the One who had the right to pass judgment or mercy because God’s judgment is not without mercy and neither is His mercy independent of His righteousness. The accusers had neither right nor cause to stone this woman because that they had so entrapped her and showed a callousness toward her and the Law itself they had no right to bring any charge against her. So when Jesus claims right as executioner, they understood, since Scripture tells us that no charge was ever found against Jesus, that He was claiming the Law of Moses to execute them as well as the adulteress.

Concerning her, Jesus does not pass over her sin. He certainly does tell the pharisees to execute her, she was guilty, but he casts it in such a light that they cannot do it because they are also guilty before the Law. But when He tells her that He does not condemn her, He is not excusing her, He is telling her that though she is guilty and deserves death, he is willing to forgive her sins if she, “go(es) and sin(s) no more.”

So there are two lessons.
  1. Don’t be so quick to try and catch other people out in their sins because we sin when we do so. We have every right to counsel each other when we see our brothers sin, but we do not have the right to tsk and cluck at the sins of other because when we do we show how hard our hearts are and sin ourselves in our pride by assuming that we are somehow more righteous than that brother before God.
  2. We must never presume on the mercy of God. Just because God forgives our sins or does not immediately punish us for them does not mean that God has not seen our sin and is not offended by it. We must never think that just because everyone is a sinner that our sins don’t stand out before God. Scripture tells us that God will judge us each and not collectively, so we must live each and every day in repentance before Him that our sins may be forgiven and then do our best to, “go and sin no more.”
God bless and merry Christmas.🙂
 
You’re right. No one knows what Jesus wrote. That is why for some of us it’s interesting to speculate what he might have written and do not think it a waste of time. From what I have learned from scripture, and I do NOT, nor ever, claim to be an expert, God does everything for a reason. I think many of the posters here gave some interesting answers.
How does this “Impact you” if we discuss this?

Your rudeness stems from the Fact that it’s none of your business how I, nor anyone else, spend our idle time. I’m sure there are activities that you do during the course of the day that I might think a waste of time. But that, of course, is None of my business.

Thank you, for not calling those who find this topic interesting “Idiots” like one UnCharitable person did.
Well I can see you ignored the moderator in post #20!!
 
Well I can see you ignored the moderator in post #20!!
In this case I would like to apologize for pointing out your rudeness in public. I should have, and will from now on, correct any of my Christian Brothers or Sisters in private as I would hope they would do the same for me when I am out of line.
 
Jesus was drawing a tic-tac-toe in the sand. None of them could beat him. They knew that because they had previously tried so, one by one they dropped their rocks and went home.

Hey, it’s as good of an explanation as any of the others 😛
…why among strangers?

Maran atha!

Angel
 
He either wrote/drew:
  1. The only word to rhyme with Orange.
  2. A picture of Cain pointing at Leonardo da Vinci while both sit in front of Lilith.
  3. Where ag_not left her car keys
  4. A simple doodle while thinking “How many idiots are going to worry about what I am drawing instead of the obvious lesson going on in front of them?”
…you forgot:

“Final going out of business super-size-it 99% off everything must go end of time sale!” 😛

Maran atha!

Angel
 
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Let me also ask???

The Mosiac Law was written in stone. The Elders and those condemning were holding stones. Maybe signifying that they were HOLDING onto the Law? Isn’t sand just little stones that have deteriorated into little particles to become sand? Could then Jesus’s writing in the sand signify that they are no more under the Law?
I’m No theologian, but there has to be some sort of significance here?
I don’t think our Lord would doodle??? I’ve taken the Jeff Cavins Great Adventure bBble Study at our Church and now Know that God does Everything for a reason. That there are many different levels to read and interpret scripture, be it Allegory, Anagogy, Typology, etc.???

Thank you all for responding to my question. I find the many answers intriguing and well thought out.
Hi, Just Returned!

I understand what you are saying… but consider that Jesus was also a Man: He laughed, smiled, cried, ate, drank and, most likely,experienced all of the natural bio-chemical secretions and excretions that humans experience…

…as someone mentioned above, what was truly important about that particular scene was that the Mosaic Law was being circumvented as the application of the Law was only suffered by the females or the poor; Jesus is not exculpating the woman because the Law was unjust or because the Jews were holding on to the Mosaic Law (this change will take effect only after His Death, Resurrection and Ascension) but because the accusers only sought justice against the female while ignoring that her male accomplice was just as guilty as she in braking the Law; in essense, they became collective violators of the Law which they accused the woman of braking (adultery) since they rejected Yahweh God’s Justice and exerted man’s brand of justice with which no one can please God.

I want you to go back to St. John 8 and re-read through the passage; pay attention to how things develop:
a) the religious elite make a big fuss about a woman committing adultery,
b) though, by the own words, she was caught in the act of adultery only the woman is brought to Judgment,
c) Jesus is God and knows the deceit and desdain which they harbored against Him,
d) Jesus addresses them only after they fail to acknowledge His intentional disregard of their grievance,
e) Jesus stands up, gazes attently at them and makes His pronouncement–knowing the outcome, He goes back to writing on the ground,
f) while He is writing on the ground neither Him nor the audience brings any attention to what He writes,
g) Jesus continues to write without any concern for those around Him and only after the last one/s are gone does Jesus engages in a direct exchange with the last person standing.

Jesus spares the woman without any lectures and without using the written material as a buffer/teaching tool; He simply dismisses her and commands her to abandon her sinful life.

Maran atha!

Angel
 
Hmm… that makes me think, you really have to be a certain distance away from a person emotionally in your heart in order to “throw a stone at them”. You really can’t do it while you’re loving them.
Hi, cheeto1!

…but one does not exclude the other; the prescription of the Law did not demand that only those that lacked love or were not related by blood/marriage take part in carrying out the sentencing of the accused.

Clearly, there would be those who would refuse to partake of the sentencing of a loved one or a friend (as there would be those who harbored hatred/disdain against the accused), yet those that did would not necessarily have had ill feelings for the accused.

Maran atha!

Angel
 
Many of us Catholics like to meditate on the Life of Our Lord. I like to wonder what games Jesus and his cousin John the Baptist played.
Hi, James Miller!

Do you mean what games they played as boys or what games they played together?

Maran atha!

Angel
 
.

Let me also ask???

The Mosiac Law was written in stone. The Elders and those condemning were holding stones. Maybe signifying that they were HOLDING onto the Law? Isn’t sand just little stones that have deteriorated into little particles to become sand? Could then Jesus’s writing in the sand signify that they are no more under the Law?
I’m No theologian, but there has to be some sort of significance here?
I don’t think our Lord would doodle??? I’ve taken the Jeff Cavins Great Adventure bBble Study at our Church and now Know that God does Everything for a reason. That there are many different levels to read and interpret scripture, be it Allegory, Anagogy, Typology, etc.???

Thank you all for responding to my question. I find the many answers intriguing and well thought out.
Jesus never wrote any thing with His own hand written not ever the NT
 
I picked up a big rock out of the parking lot today and put it where it goes in it’s landscaping. It was big, with sharp edges,
and I wondered if this large rock was more like what they would
actually throw than the small stones I had always imagined.
It felt heavy, and smooth in my hand, despite it’s sharp edges.
Someone else with a hand just like mine long ago held a rock like this maybe, and instead of using it for landscaping, they threw it viciously at a person in anger until they died.
Hi, cheeto1!

…consider that there would be people of various body types and abilities… consider too that females, yound adults and perhaps even a child or two would take (even if hidden from others) an active role in bringing “judgment” upon the accused… the stones/rocks must also have varied according to those throwing them…
And I wondered how it would feel to have this rock hit you. And then it keeps happening, done by all the people in town, until it kills you.
And the people didn’t think of this idea on their own, God did.
It would be interesting to find that Jesus actually wrote something and what it was, but not as interesting as the question of why God would prescribe such an activity, when later He would change His mind?
…ever heard of deterrant?.. I believe that there are two main reasons for such extreme measures: a) the Old Testament’s economy (“eye for and eye…”) would teach Israel that sin led to death, and b) sin was seen as uncleanness and Israel was the holy people of Yahweh God and had to be kept pure. In the new economy, St. Paul expresses it this way: “the reward for sin is death…” Interestingly enough, St. Paul was speaking of spiritual death while the Old Testament was, for the most part, imparting only physical death; St. Peter tells us that Jesus, in the Spirit, preached to those spirits who had died, while God exercised patience, prior to Jesus’ Death and Resurrection… the problem with capital punishment (today as it was then) is that those dispensing it are not always adhering to Justice as they may exonerate the wicked/guilty and condemn the just/innocent.

…what Jesus wrote… we hardly hear of Jesus writing something… I cannot recall, other than this particular passage in St. John 8, any other Biblical passage that speaks about Jesus preaching/teaching through a written medium (exclusive of the intances when He read from the Sacred Scrolls).

Maran atha!

Angel
 
I don’t think it is necessary to try to figure out what Jesus wrote on the ground. Whatever it was, it so pricked the conscience of those who wanted to trap him that they left without a stone being thrown. That being so I think it is helpful for context to look at the story as a whole.

God bless and merry Christmas.🙂
…but it was not an apple…

You are on the right path… it is not necessary; but you deviate when you determine that the accusers were moved by what Jesus wrote on the ground rather than by Jesus’ demeanor and words.

Maran atha!

Angel
 
…but it was not an apple…

You are on the right path… it is not necessary; but you deviate when you determine that the accusers were moved by what Jesus wrote on the ground rather than by Jesus’ demeanor and words.

Maran atha!

Angel
Good point and fair enough
 
I picked up a big rock out of the parking lot today and put it where it goes in it’s landscaping. It was big, with sharp edges,
and I wondered if this large rock was more like what they would
actually throw than the small stones I had always imagined.
It felt heavy, and smooth in my hand, despite it’s sharp edges.
Someone else with a hand just like mine long ago held a rock like this maybe, and instead of using it for landscaping, they threw it viciously at a person in anger until they died. And I wondered how it would feel to have this rock hit you. And then it keeps happening, done by all the people in town, until it kills you.
And the people didn’t think of this idea on their own, God did.

It would be interesting to find that Jesus actually wrote something and what it was, but not as interesting as the question of why God would prescribe such an activity, when later He would change His mind?
I think part of the severity of the Law was to illustrate that God is severely offended by our sin. That is true today. if you think that God is no longer as offended with our sin, consider the cross. At Calvary God poured out on Jesus His wrath with us and left Him to die abandoned as no man has ever died. Jesus suffered more horror than any of us ever has or will, unless we go to Hell, and that is the degree to which God is offended with our sin.

The second thing is that the Law was given when the people were still nomadic and the land was hard. There were many dangers beyond the morality of the two involved in adultery such as retribution and inter familial or clan feuding and the severity of the punishment prevented this people living a hard scrabble life from tearing each other to pieces. The same holds true for theft, murder, false witness and honoring family. Remember the Law was not only a moral code, but God’s tool for building a nation.

We may not grasp it today, but remember that when compared to law of the peoples around them at that time, the Mosaic Law is remarkably merciful and just.
 
I think part of the severity of the Law was to illustrate that God is severely offended by our sin. That is true today. if you think that God is no longer as offended with our sin, consider the cross. At Calvary God poured out on Jesus His wrath with us and left Him to die abandoned as no man has ever died. Jesus suffered more horror than any of us ever has or will, unless we go to Hell, and that is the degree to which God is offended with our sin.

The second thing is that the Law was given when the people were still nomadic and the land was hard. There were many dangers beyond the morality of the two involved in adultery such as retribution and inter familial or clan feuding and the severity of the punishment prevented this people living a hard scrabble life from tearing each other to pieces. The same holds true for theft, murder, false witness and honoring family. Remember the Law was not only a moral code, but God’s tool for building a nation.

We may not grasp it today, but remember that when compared to law of the peoples around them at that time, the Mosaic Law is remarkably merciful and just.
That is not correct. Jesus is God and he offered himself as a sacrifice. How could the wrath of God be poured on Jesus and how could he be abandoned by God when he is God.
 
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