What do CAFers think about housing policy, particularly affordable housing for the working class?

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If everyone had this attitude toward the poor, one things for certain, they would all die from starvation and we would no-longer have a poverty problem. Problem solved.
How does my attitude necessitate that? Having a true opinion of why things are the way they are doesn’t necessitate a particular action. Also, Jesus said the poor you will always have with you. That seems to me to be saying you can’t ‘end poverty’.
What if some if not many of the poor didn’t know/learn better or have issues due to their tough and difficult background and roots like growing up in a dysfunctional or broken home, or not going to the right school, or living in a desolate community?
That may be true. But then you seem to be implying that circumstances can make people turn out a certain way. You are implying the poor are untrustworthy and dangerous because their circumstances make them so.
 
Perhaps @MonteRCMS, was simply trying to show the working conditions at Amazon? The woman in the thumbnail looks rather old though, jobs like migrant workers seem to be a better fit for the younger and more robust, and ideally, the older and more frail can be taken care of or have opportunities for lighter work.
Living in an RV or in a van versus living in a stick & brick abode.

OR … versus … living in an LA tent.

OR … versus … living in a masonry high rise slum project apartment.

What was your point in raising the homeless or “affordable housing” issue?
 
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How does my attitude necessitate that? Having a true opinion of why things are the way they are doesn’t necessitate a particular action. Also, Jesus said the poor you will always have with you.
The poor will always be with us because people don’t see a duty to help the poor be anything but that. And i don’t remember Jesus saying, “please brother close your wallet, don’t bother helping the poor because it’s their fault”. looool!

That’s not the wisdom of God.
That seems to me to be saying you can’t ‘end poverty’.
Jesus knew that we wouldn’t, because that’s how it played out. It’s got nothing to do with the possibility of changing; it’s because we didn’t change it. But God will bless those who tried, and he will bless and remember any authority who intervened on their behave.
 
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The poor will always be with us because people don’t see a duty to help the poor be anything but that.
I don’t see that. I see tremendous help for poor people. Poor people can get any help they need in the US.
 
I don’t see that. I see tremendous help for poor people.
Of course. I’m talking more in terms of eliminating poverty and the fact of being poor, full stop. If someones breaking their backs just to hover above the poverty line, while there are millionaires complaining about tax, that to me doesn’t speak well of the society in which it occurs. There is something wrong with that society unless it’s something that can’t be helped. I guess we disagree on whether poverty exists because not enough good is done or because it can’t be helped.

What i won’t do is join you in blaming the victim or removing any support they get from the government. I think they should get more support, and not necessarily in terms of money, but certainly in terms of providing them a means to production.
 
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Why shouldn’t millionaires complain about taxes? Taxes take away money that could provide productive jobs or charity to the poor.

Also the poverty line is arbitrary. Most of my not too distant relatives were far poorer than poor people today. Yet they had food, clothes and a roof over their heads.
 
Taxes aren’t charity. They are taking money by force. Much of the money is spent immorally and wasted.
 
Do you give all your money to the state? I doubt it. Do you not take tax deductions? I doubt it.
 
So you are saying that it is intrinsically evil to tax people?
Maybe not “intrinsically evil” but certainly quite suspect. St. Matthew was not looked up highly do to his previous profession as a tax collector.
 
Getting the views of members here, particularly Catholics on said issue. I admit I am coming from a specific bias and perspective (coming from an area where housing costs are quite high, possibly out of the norm, though many people are in such a situation).

One issue I have is how the working class have to deal with the so called “middle class squeeze” where they struggle to make rent/mortagages and even if they do, they have little room for savings which makes them precarious to personal crises and limits their opportunity for a future such as being able to retire or helping support the higher education of their children (thus ensuring their economic future).

Also, it’s hard to save when housing cost consume much of one’s income, not to mention paying for transportation and insurances like life insurance and health insurance to access medical care. Many working class people (and the lower middle classes) seem to be in a precarious place, unable to derive the benefits of safety nets but far from comfortable compared to their upper class cohort? And it seems the middle class is beginning to falter as well (again in part where housing seems to cost an arm and a leg).

What do posters have to say about this, I’d like to hear responses that apply to one’s interpretation of Catholic Social Teaching and Christian Social Thought/Doctrine?
 
One issue I have is how the working class have to deal with the so called “middle class squeeze” where they struggle to make rent/mortagages and even if they do, they have little room for savings which makes them precarious to personal crises and limits their opportunity for a future such as being able to retire or helping support the higher education of their children (thus ensuring their economic future).
I definitely agree that the middle class is being squeezed. The middle class in America is dying. I just don’t think more government is the solution. I think government has made the problem.
 
Do you think backtracking (like shrinking the size and scope of government) would help ideally both the working and middle classes as well as the poor and disadvantaged? There does seem to be a need for a social institution to help those who aren’t fortunate, like those born in dysfunctional families or broken homes, or even others who appear to be in a difficult situation (like disabilities or other crises in life), there are people in need.
 
I don’t see that. I see tremendous help for poor people. Poor people can get any help they need in the US.
Education.

AVAILABLE to everyone.

All poor people attend school, but you can’t force poor people to LEARN.
 
From much of what I’ve read, the mere fact that someone attends school doesn’t always say a whole lot about the education available. Things like class size and the availability of assistance to those who need it are critical. Plus honestly, I don’t know anyone who just automatically paid attention has a kid; that’s why we have adults in school to monitor them. If there aren’t enough adults there to make kids do their work, they’re not going to do it. It’s not like we can suddenly expect children to be mini adults simply because they’re poor.
 
If poor people are going to get free housing, then why should anyone work?
 
From much of what I’ve read, the mere fact that someone attends school doesn’t always say a whole lot about the education available. Things like class size and the availability of assistance to those who need it are critical. Plus honestly, I don’t know anyone who just automatically paid attention has a kid; that’s why we have adults in school to monitor them. If there aren’t enough adults there to make kids do their work, they’re not going to do it. It’s not like we can suddenly expect children to be mini adults simply because they’re poor.
Excuses, excuses, excuses.
 
Do you think backtracking (like shrinking the size and scope of government) would help ideally both the working and middle classes as well as the poor and disadvantaged? There does seem to be a need for a social institution to help those who aren’t fortunate, like those born in dysfunctional families or broken homes, or even others who appear to be in a difficult situation (like disabilities or other crises in life), there are people in need.
Yes.

Reduces the cost and intrusion.
 
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