What Do Catholics Not Respect Non-Catholics?

[pigtown]

English is not my mother tongue. May be I did not make myself clear. I was trying to respond to someone saying his parents prevended him reading the bible. I said it might have been out of love because it is not good to allow children to play around with a sword - the bible is a sword that cuts both ways. It do destroy the unleaned. It is also a fact that education 70 to 80 years ago was not as is today. Am I clear now?

Yes, you are clear. I can certainly understand that you may have some problems expressing yourself in English since that is not your mother tongue. I don’t know who may have said that his parents prevented him from reading the Bible. I just know that the Bible was not read by the lay people when I was growing up. It’s not because my parents forbid it since they certainly did not but it was just something that was not done. I do agree that education wasn’t pushed as much as it is today but that doesn’t mean that people did not get educations. Those who wanted it pushed to further their educations. I just felt that you were putting down many people. Now that I see that it was simply a problem with the English language, I can see that it probably wasn’t intentional and I apologize for my misunderstanding. I know that if I had to try to explain something in another language I’d be unable to do it. Sometimes it’s hard enough for me to explain in English!

 

[placido]

Yes, you are clear. I can certainly understand that you may have some problems expressing yourself in English since that is not your mother tongue. I don’t know who may have said that his parents prevented him from reading the Bible. I just know that the Bible was not read by the lay people when I was growing up. It’s not because my parents forbid it since they certainly did not but it was just something that was not done. I do agree that education wasn’t pushed as much as it is today but that doesn’t mean that people did not get educations. Those who wanted it pushed to further their educations. I just felt that you were putting down many people. Now that I see that it was simply a problem with the English language, I can see that it probably wasn’t intentional and I apologize for my misunderstanding. I know that if I had to try to explain something in another language I’d be unable to do it. Sometimes it’s hard enough for me to explain in English!

Resolved … let’s move on!

 

[peary]

English is not my mother tongue. May be I did not make myself clear. I was trying to respond to someone saying his parents prevended him reading the bible. I said it might have been out of love because it is not good to allow children to play around with a sword - the bible is a sword that cuts both ways. It do destroy the unleaned. It is also a fact that education 70 to 80 years ago was not as is today. Am I clear now?

**You said exactly the same thing you said before! **

 

[placido]

Pigtown, Post #30:

“Some people have questioned my saying that I did not read the Bible when I was growing up. Being a Cradle Catholic, born in the early 1940’s, the Bible was not something for lay people to read. I didn’t know of anyone in my family who had read the Bible at all. Everyone had one to record family events but not to read. Only the priest read the Bible …”

Pigtown, Post # 68:

“Maybe the church, itself, didn’t forbid Bible reading but the priests and nuns did. At least they did back when I was in Catholic school in the 1940’s.”

Pigtown, Post # 265:

“Blame my parents for what? They did what the priests told them to do …”

Your parents were told by the priests not to allow you to read the Bible, right? But by a strange turn of events you also said this:

Pigtown, Post # 281:

I don’t know who may have said that his parents prevented him from reading the Bible. I just know that the Bible was not read by the lay people when I was growing up …”

 

[pigtown]

Pigtown, Post #30:

“Some people have questioned my saying that I did not read the Bible when I was growing up. Being a Cradle Catholic, born in the early 1940’s, the Bible was not something for lay people to read. I didn’t know of anyone in my family who had read the Bible at all. Everyone had one to record family events but not to read. Only the priest read the Bible …”

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I don’t know what your problem is but I did not read the Bible when I was growing up, my parents did not read the Bible and my grandparents did not read the Bible. It simply was not read by lay people. There may have been some people who read it but I never knew them. Can’t you let this go and get on to something meaningful in today’s world? I had apologized to you for misunderstanding you but I feel that there is something else going on so any apologies on my part wouldn’t help you anyway.
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[TexCatholic4JMJ]

OTP If your grandmother was a daily communicant or mass goer,
give it up, you’ll come back to the One, Holy, Catholic and
Apostolic Church! A mother’s or grandmother’s prayer is very powerful and I’m sure she prayed for you to come home. LOL!

As to the poll mentioned in post 215 or so, don’t look to prove
anything by that. The Catholic Church is the ONE TRUE
Church, but many sincere people (outside the Church) may not
know that yet. So they will be saved, even if they only have
partial truth.

I did not read all the posts but felt the need to comment on these
two points. If I had more time, I would expand, but I must go.

 

[MrS]

OTP If your grandmother was a daily communicant or mass goer,
give it up, you’ll come back to the One, Holy, Catholic and
Apostolic Church! A mother’s or grandmother’s prayer is very powerful and I’m sure she prayed for you to come home. LOL!

As to the poll mentioned in post 215 or so, don’t look to prove
anything by that. The Catholic Church is the ONE TRUE
Church, but many sincere people (outside the Church) may not
know that yet. So they will be saved, even if they only have
partial truth.

I did not read all the posts but felt the need to comment on these
two points. If I had more time, I would expand, but I must go.

OTP… you are fighting a losing cause.

Between your grandmother, and His Mother, you are going to be just fine… and home again some day.

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[Cinette]

placido;3983223:

Pigtown, Post #30:

“Some people have questioned my saying that I did not read the Bible when I was growing up. Being a Cradle Catholic, born in the early 1940’s, the Bible was not something for lay people to read. I didn’t know of anyone in my family who had read the Bible at all. Everyone had one to record family events but not to read. Only the priest read the Bible …”

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**I consider these forums a place where views can be aired, where we can have discussions, learn, analyse and share. When we bicker it becomes boring.

I just have to say this on the topic of this thread. Many hundreds, if not thousands of books have been written insulting and pointing a finger at the Catholic Church. Does anybody know of books where Catholics do likewise against Protestants. I don’t think so. During my school years in Convents never did the nuns and priests ever say a bad word about Protestants.

So in my opinion lets answer the question of this thread - CATHOLICS LOVE AND RESPECT THEIR NON-CATHOLIC BROTHERS AND SISTERS. We would appreciate it however if you loved and respected us back.:tiphat: **


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[elts1956]

I BEG YOUR PARDON!!! True we didn’t have the internet waaaaaaaaay back then, but we had books, newspapers, the radio (do you know what that is?), so I am truly insulted.

Insulted?

Well yes, didn’t you say “BTW, 70 years ago - that was another era, not known for high level of literacy”.

You were kidding weren’t you? I was born seventy years ago, spent about 17 in school, so we were literate.

 

[Peter_J]

Well yes, didn’t you say “BTW, 70 years ago - that was another era, not known for high level of literacy”.

You were kidding weren’t you? I was born seventy years ago, spent about 17 in school, so we were literate.

Perhaps placido meant to say “700 years ago”.

 

[fbl9]

hi all this is how i as a Catholic see 1corithians3:12"but if any one bulid on this foundation be gold,silver or precious stones…"the Catholic church built out of solid gold beams and adourned with many diamonds… Angelcians,Lutherans,methodists gold plated boards…non denom,baptistsand pentacoatasls and such.well they got the foundation at least. and there are some JW’s and like they missed the foundation but are close by.

 

[AlegreFe]

growing up protestant, i was taught to look down on Catholics because they weren’t “saved” and doomed to go to Hell because they made up purgatory (to keep their pockets full of loot) and “worship” Mary. i always wondered why there was so much attention to them and not, say, the mormons or jehovahs witnesses.
then i fell out of the church as a teen because i thought they were kooks.
thank God for giving me my son because that’s when i wondered about what the Catholic Church actually taught and not what people told me. by the grace of God, i came into the Church last year.
i don’t look down at protestants since that is where i came from. i’m sad that those people can’t see the beauty of the Church because of mis-information. but if God had called a sinner like me, and believe me i have no idea why he did, to His Church, i believe, He can/will do the same for them…

He called you precisely because of that; we’re all sinners and it was your time to come and be healed in His Church. He loves you very much. He came for sinners not the righteous. I’m a sinner and I’m glad I am in the “hospital for sinners” HIS Catholic Church. The Sacrament of Reconciliation or Confession is God’s mercy seat. He is our Divine Physician and He does His best work (besides Redemption) in there. Welcome home. I’m glad you’re here.

 

[guanophore]

I believe their is salvation through the promises of Christ.

I believe you do not need to achieve various requirements of the Church in order to have a relationship with God.

If you complete A and B, you will receive C. That is a requirement, that is work, that is a works based faith.

This is an erroneous conclusion drawn from an erroneous premise. Jesus and the Apostles many times use the formula “if…then…”. The fact that such things are related does not mean that one is “based” upon the other. Our salvation is based on grace, through faith, not “works”. Yet, works are not separated from the grace that produces them.

 

[Deconi]

This is an erroneous conclusion drawn from an erroneous premise. Jesus and the Apostles many times use the formula “if…then…”. The fact that such things are related does not mean that one is “based” upon the other. Our salvation is based on grace, through faith, not “works”. Yet, works are not separated from the grace that produces them.

It is a superficial ploy by many tenets of Christianity in attempts to validate themselves to being separate from The Church!

Grace is EVERYTHING. Without the grace of God, there would be no faith. Without the grace of God, there would be no works.
The Church has always taught that ALL are ONE!

Grace provides the Identity for faith. (from Baal, Bhuda, Idols)
Faith identifies In WHOM the works are directed
Works embodys the faith, through grace!
ALL ARE ONE and the same!

 

[khutcheson]

pigtown;3983272:

placido;3983223:

Pigtown, Post #30:
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Some of us do…

 

[Cinette]

Cinette;3990846:

pigtown;3983272:

Some of us do…

That was my post actually (don’t remember the no.). I look forward to the time when we can be all united, where we can be ONE just like the Trinity are ONE. I regret the continued animosity against other Christians. If Christians have a belief that is way out we should respectfully correct them, lovingly. I was watching The World Over with Raymond Arroyo and Bill Donohue - how Athiests and Christians (even some Catholics) desecrate the Faith. Anti-Catholicism is rife - in fact it has become a passtime.

We can never say that life is boring!!!

 

[guanophore]

Protestants in this forum listen or read on deaf ears…

Let’s not be prejudiced. There are many that are open, loving, and beneficial participants.

Let us not allow the hostile with deaf ears to prevent us from appreciating our charitable brethren.

 

[guanophore]

I experience and feel nothing in what you call the one true Church.

This is often the consequence of unconfessed serious sin. This is what Paul warned about when he spoke of taking the Body and Blood in an unworthy state.

Even when the Church is wrong, they will hold firm to their infallible morals.

Many people depart from the Church because they are unwilling to live by the moral precepts defined and promoted by the Church.

 

[ASimpleSinner]

Maybe Catholics don’t know allot about Protestants.

I went to Catholic School until I was 14 years old.

Growing up, I thought Protestant’s were actually a denomination, in that there was one group of Catholics and one group of Protestants.

No one ever told me about Protestantism, what they believed, why they believed it, about the reformation, about the various splits etc…

The disagreements are so very wide and varied it would take ten lifetimes - honestly in some denoms, getting to know EACH member! - before you could have a full understanding of what all the various sects and communities believe.

 

[Greg27]

For most of its history, the CC regarded itself as the only true Christian Church, and also the only true religion on Earth. Ex ecclesia nulla salus - this was the view of the church right up until the mid-20th century, and even then and now, it is still a matter of doctrine that it is the most perfect religion on Earth.

This sort of attitude, especially when it was enforced in the medieval period through the use of political power and coercive methods (of which the Inquisition is the most notorious), has given the church a bad reputation. There is a lot of arrogance though in people of other churches and religions who believe they have the sole truth, but this is most worrying when they back their beliefs through violence. At the moment Islam seems to have the biggest problem, as fanatics there enforce their doctrine through cruelly rigid laws that do not respect conscience or through violent means such as terrorist attacks. But, it is a problem with most absolutist religious beliefs and secular philosophies that occurs through history.

The only solution in my view, is a more humble approach to the ultimate questions of meaning and life.