What do we do when there are too many people on the planet?

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IWantGod said:
Over 7 billion people just eating the planet alive. It’s like a horror film.
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I could make that same claim for any number greater than 0.

What’s a good number? 1000? 1Million? 1 billion? 10 billion? 1 trillion? 100 trillion?
 
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Vonsalza:
Cool. When you come up with another way to get folks to not have kids besides “No sex, ever!”, let me know. Seriously.
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Why don’t we work together to find a solution instead of resorting to sin and evil because it’s the easiest and most convenient way? You know, a lot of people will end up in hell because they chose sin because it’s easy and convenient. Not a very safe way to think.
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Given the circumstances, the culpability of these folks would be severely impaired.

“They’ll all go to hell!” is a baseless assumption.
 
If you are asking about public policy that is a different matter. Simply put public policy is very complex and hard for us to analyze on a forum as people with no experience. There are rational choices that do not involve birth control. They aren’t easy. We as Catholics mustn’t stray from Catholic moral teachings (or try very hard not to). An idea would be once again to do with the redistribution of resources and focus on a simpler life so that more people can fit, or maybe even space exploration.

Also Matthew 6:25-34 on that one

25 “Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink, nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing? 26 Look at the birds of the air: they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? 27 And which of you by being anxious can add a single hour to his span of life?[a] 28 And why are you anxious about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin, 29 yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 30 But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is alive and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? 31 Therefore do not be anxious, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ 32 For the Gentiles seek after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all. 33 But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.

34 “Therefore do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.

I guess if it comes to the worst we’ll need to pray for a miracle.

*also “They’ll all go to Hell” is not the assumption. They could be ignorant, haven’t reasoned correctly, etc. Contraception is bad in and of itself, it isn’t our say to comment whether an individual or even a group is sinning, sinning mortally or sinning at all.
 
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StephieNorthCo said:
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IWantGod:
Over 7 billion people just eating the planet alive. It’s like a horror film.
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I could make that same claim for any number greater than 0.

What’s a good number? 1000? 1Million? 1 billion? 10 billion? 1 trillion? 100 trillion?
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Somewhere around 1 billion is what was tossed around in my econ classes
 
Vonsalza said:
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Vonsalza:
Rationally, that’s what we’ve gotta do.

Colonizing the moon should be a priority for the survival of our species. Perfect the technologies required so we may continue our virus-like spread 😅
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But can that really happen under capitalism?
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Sure. It was, essentially, capitalism that westernized the new world.

Instead of big companies, you had monarchs. But the idea is the same. Big rich entity sends out colonial “feelers” and when they find something valuable - in comes the fleet!
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@IWantGod

Elon Musk has made a huge leap toward the goal by getting space launches as cheap as he’s gotten them.
 
We wait for the coming plauge of antibiotic resistant super bacteria to wipe out those who arent immune.

😜😜😜😜
 
Maximilian75 said:
We wait for the coming plauge of antibiotic resistant super bacteria to wipe out those who arent immune.

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Don’t joke about that!

I got a case of strep this year that amoxicilin (sp?) wouldn’t treat!!!

Penecillin (again, sp?) doesn’t work anymore. Amoxcilin didn’t work for me now… The REALLY expensive stuff I had to buy, the pharmacist joked that “if this doesn’t work, you’ll have to go somewhere else. This is about the strongest stuff we’ve got.”

I laughed. But inside I was panicking just a little.
 
Yeah that’s not ever going to fly with the church. Utilitarianism is not a way justify immorality.
 
Have you seen what Elon musk just did? If we’d privatized the space industry in the 60s we’d probably have put a man on mars already.
 
JanSobieskiIII said:
Yeah that’s not ever going to fly with the church. Utilitarianism is not a way justify immorality.
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I totally get that.

The Church cannot produce a workable answer to over-population. And I’m sympathetic to that.
 
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Who said I was joking? the emojis were just to lighten the mood.

Momento Mori, fratres. Momento mori.
 
JanSobieskiIII said:
Have you seen what Elon musk just did? If we’d privatized the space industry in the 60s we’d probably have put a man on mars already.
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You might be right, but I’ll give props to the gov. for laying the track.

It’s public launch facilities Elon is using, btw.
 
I know what you mean. My dad has a bad bacterial infection that ge can’t shake, even on a mix of antibiotics. Scary stuff.
 
No doubt, it took government funding to get the ground work done, but what NASA should have done was made all their research and engineering public domain once it proved successful. I have no problem with government investing in something, but then the market needs to be able to do it’s thing and make it economical.
 
JanSobieskiIII said:
No doubt, it took government funding to get the ground work done, but what NASA should have done was made all their research and engineering public domain once it proved successful. I have no problem with government investing in something, but then the market needs to be able to do it’s thing and make it economical.
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I’m with ya 100%.

Now let this floor you-

The Ruskies had better rockets than we did - at least on a design basis. Production basis is another question…
When the Soviet Union fell apart, all their remaining engines got snatched up and most of your commercial flyers these days are heavily descended from that design.

Something about the compression that NASA decided was impossible but the Ruskies figured out…
 
Doesn’t surprise me, there’s probably some ridiculous reason somewhere for it though that only makes sense to government employees.
 
JanSobieskiIII said:
Doesn’t surprise me, there’s probably some ridiculous reason somewhere for it though that only makes sense to government employees.
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A lot of the time it’s “You can’t share this. This technology was developed for the Saturn V program, but it’s OWNED by Lockheed Martin and if you release it we’ll sue you.”
 
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