What does Daniel 8:13,14 mean?

[barboza21]

Sorry I have not responded sooner.

The two-horned ram represents the combined kingdom of the Medes and Persians, destroyed by the goat of Alexander’s Hellenistic empire. His succesors were Seleucus, Antigonus, Philip, and Ptolemeus. Antiochus the little horn came out of Seleucus.

The he-goat became very powerful, but at the height of its power the great horn was shattered, and in its place came up four others, facing the four winds of heaven. Out of one of them came a little horn which kept growing toward the south, the east, and the glorious country. (Dan 8:8-9)

In Daniel 7 it depends if you are talking about initial or later fulfillment. Initially it is lion Babylonian, bear Median, leopard Persian, fouth Greek.

The four heads of the leopard are Cyrus and three kings that follow. **Now I shall tell you the truth. "Three kings of Persia are yet to come; and a fourth shall acquire the greatest riches of all. Strengthened by his riches, he shall rouse all the kingdom of Greece. (Dan 11:2) **

More substantially in Christ’s fulfillment the bear is Medo-Persia, the leopard is Greek, and the fourth is Rome.

You are thinking in terms of either or instead of both and. I’m not even against the possibility of a final fulfillment of Daniel, except when people don’t recognize the initial fulfillment before and at the time of Christ. All I’m saying is: don’t think the futurist interpretation is so rock solid to not include the other senses of scripture.

Obviously there were more nations/tribes who were within the borders of the Western Roman Empire (including the three you say were uprooted). Secondly, the countries today were NOT the same countries or nations that were around in the days of the Empire. Borders were completely different, and people were completely different. The Spanish and French did not even exist (as single entities) so could not make up an existing horn of a beast. Also, Italy would be more than one country, because at that time and for a long time afterwards, they were made up of the Venetians, the Lombards, and the Italians/Romans themselves. And if you want to include Switzerland (the Helvetians), a very minor group in those times, you have to include the more prominent Belgium (made up of the Flemings and the Belgians) as well - they were part of the Western Empire just as much as the rest of the countries were.

I’m just saying the futurist view is not the only legitimate one.

Hey ryanoneil, I gotta be honest, I see your long responses filled with valuable and theological information and I just am baffled by how much you know and how everything in the bible has a meaning and connection. Most of the things you write I don’t even understand. ") but I am glad my thread has opened opportunities to be able to talk about this with protestants and that you are so educated enough on the matter to have good discussions. Keep up the good work, hopefully God-willing this thread will be of good use.

God bless you

 

[barboza21]

Hey Richard I hope you’re feeling better. and I also hope you see this msg. It’d be great to read those summaries you mentioned, if you have time. Or if you want to continue posting that’s great too.

Either way I really hope that wasn’t the last of you on this thread.

 

[Protestant101]

Hey Richard I hope you’re feeling better. and I also hope you see this msg. It’d be great to read those summaries you mentioned, if you have time. Or if you want to continue posting that’s great too.

Either way I really hope that wasn’t the last of you on this thread.

May I ask what kinds of things you are still interested in exchanging notes on within this thread? I find this subject very interesting…

 

[ryanoneil]

Hey ryanoneil, I gotta be honest, I see your long responses filled with valuable and theological information and I just am baffled by how much you know and how everything in the bible has a meaning and connection. Most of the things you write I don’t even understand. ") but I am glad my thread has opened opportunities to be able to talk about this with protestants and that you are so educated enough on the matter to have good discussions. Keep up the good work, hopefully God-willing this thread will be of good use.

God bless you

Well, thanks for the compliment but I feel like I really only know the basics. Have you ever read 1 or 2 Maccabees? Read 1 Maccabees 1 and 2 Maccabees 4-6 you will see the fulfillment of most of Daniel 8.

 

[barboza21]

May I ask what kinds of things you are still interested in exchanging notes on within this thread? I find this subject very interesting…

Well I was hoping Richard or someone else from the SDA church would like to continue talking about the faith. Especially about where it truly originated from. However, I see Ryanoneil talking with a protestant as well but they seem to know a lot more than me and more theology… I was hoping someone could talk to me in much more basic terms. (like Richard was able to)

I think the SDA religion is kind of based on the Daniel prophecy because that’s what started the millerite prophecy about 1844 I believe and so I guess I attribute that prophecy to the beginning of the SDA church. That’s why I started this thread but you know as we start on one topic, we discuss other topics as well because (we can’t help that) the bible is connected in all ways possible. and many of those topics I find interesting as well.

So I guess I want to discuss the ROOT of the religion and why SDAs believe that their church is the one.
Something like that?

 

[barboza21]

Well, thanks for the compliment but I feel like I really only know the basics. Have you ever read 1 or 2 Maccabees? Read 1 Maccabees 1 and 2 Maccabees 4-6 you will see the fulfillment of most of Daniel 8.

You know I actually never have truly read it. I usually stick to the new testament and then follow the OT when referenced or when it has sth to do with the NT. I know I should read the OT as well.

I will read it thanks for your (name removed by moderator)ut.

 

[BTTG]

Sorry I have not responded sooner.

The two-horned ram represents the combined kingdom of the Medes and Persians, destroyed by the goat of Alexander’s Hellenistic empire. His succesors were Seleucus, Antigonus, Philip, and Ptolemeus. Antiochus the little horn came out of Seleucus.

**Response - why Antiochus cannot be the little horn. 1) notice the ram ( Media-Persia) “became great” while in power, then the goat (Greece) “became very **great” and then the little horn “became exceedingly great”. History indicates that Antiochus was not more powerful then Greece. 2) Antiochus did not “grew” towards the south, east and the Glorious Land.

The four heads of the leopard are Cyrus and three kings that follow. **Now I shall tell you the truth. "Three kings of Persia are yet to come; and a fourth shall acquire the greatest riches of all. Strengthened by his riches, he shall rouse all the kingdom of Greece. (Dan 11:2) **

**Response - I respectfully do not agree with your statement above. According to history,The “three kings of Persia yet to come” are Cambyses ( 530-522 BC), Smerdis (522 BC, and Darius 1 ( 522-486 BC) and the " fourth that acquire the greatest riches" was Xerxes. **

In regards to Dan 8:14, only a high priest can cleanse the sanctuary. I don’t believe Antiochus can cleanse the sanctuary.

written with love

 

[BTTG]

Yes. i know that sitting at the right hand of the father is the holy place. and the most holy place is… what? What/where is the most holy place in Heaven?

We know how a holy and most holy place in earthly sanctuary would be… but heaven?

Sorry I took so long to respond. The answer is found in the following verses:

(Heb 8:1) Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;

(Heb 8:2) A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.

(Heb 8:3) For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer.

(Heb 8:4) For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:

(Heb 8:5) Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

written with love

 

[Richard_Kastner]

Well I was hoping Richard or someone else from the SDA church would like to continue talking about the faith. Especially about where it truly originated from. However, I see Ryanoneil talking with a protestant as well but they seem to know a lot more than me and more theology… I was hoping someone could talk to me in much more basic terms. (like Richard was able to)

Hi, bar what do you want to talk about?

I think the SDA religion is kind of based on the Daniel prophecy because that’s what started the millerite prophecy about 1844 I believe and so I guess I attribute that prophecy to the beginning of the SDA church. That’s why I started this thread but you know as we start on one topic, we discuss other topics as well because (we can’t help that) the bible is connected in all ways possible. and many of those topics I find interesting as well.

The SDA church is based on the bible. The struggle to understand Dan.8:14 merely reflected the greater struggle to understand the rest of the bible with an emphasis on the prophecies yet to be fulfilled.

So I guess I want to discuss the ROOT of the religion and why SDAs believe that their church is the one.
Something like that?

We believe that our church is the one or at least I think that we are the one (can’t really talk for other SDA) is because of Rev. 12:17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

The dragon (Satan) was angry with the woman (God’s church) and makes war with this remnant church. This church has two basic Characteristics 1) It keeps the commandments of God. This we believe is a reference to the ten commandments and includes the fourth commandment.
Ex.20
8Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Which as you can see is a memorial of creation not the resurrection of Christ.

1. They have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Rev.19:10 Tells us that the testimony of Jesus Christ is the spirit of prophecy. We believe this characteristic is fulfilled in Ellen White. So there you have it we believe that the SDA church is the only modern day church that fulfills the characteristics of God’s end time remnant church.

 

[ryanoneil]

**Response - why Antiochus cannot be the little horn. 1) notice the ram ( Media-Persia) “became great” while in power, then the goat (Greece) “became very **great” and then the little horn “became exceedingly great”. History indicates that Antiochus was not more powerful then Greece. 2) Antiochus did not “grew” towards the south, east and the Glorious Land.

There are a number of translations that describe the greatness of each differently than your translation. And I don’t believe it should be interpreted that the little horn became more powerful than Greece. The little horn started small and became great with victories against the kings of Egypt and Armenia and against Jerusalem and the people of God.

**Response - I respectfully do not agree with your statement above. According to history,The “three kings of Persia yet to come” are Cambyses ( 530-522 BC), Smerdis (522 BC, and Darius 1 ( 522-486 BC) and the " fourth that acquire the greatest riches" was Xerxes. **

Thank you for the correction. I should have said the leopard symbolized the swiftness with which Cyrus established his kingdom and the four heads represent the others (the fourth being Xerxes).

In regards to Dan 8:14, only a high priest can cleanse the sanctuary. I don’t believe Antiochus can cleanse the sanctuary.

written with love

I don’t recall saying anything about Antiochus cleansing the sanctuary. That happened in (1 Maccabees 4:36-58)

 

[barboza21]

Hi Richard, thanks for your reply.

We believe that our church is the one or at least I think that we are the one (can’t really talk for other SDA) is because of Rev. 12:17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

The dragon (Satan) was angry with the woman (God’s church) and makes war with this remnant church.

Okay, how does Rev 12:17 say that the SDA church is the one?

This church has two basic Characteristics 1) It keeps the commandments of God. This we believe is a reference to the ten commandments and includes the fourth commandment.
Ex.20
8Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Which as you can see is a memorial of creation not the resurrection of Christ.

We keep the commandments of God, too. But we Catholics are under the new covenant. Not the old. The new covenant is that of Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Not of Moses and the Law.

1. They have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Rev.19:10 Tells us that the testimony of Jesus Christ is the spirit of prophecy. We believe this characteristic is fulfilled in Ellen White. So there you have it we believe that the SDA church is the only modern day church that fulfills the characteristics of God’s end time remnant church.

Okay, you believe Ellen fulfilled the prophecy characteristic. Is the SDA church the only church out there that says it has prophecies and prophets? How come it is the SDA church that is the one. and not all the others?

I know the CC is THE ONE TRUE CHURCH. Any true Catholic knows this. I say true because I used to be a ‘bad’ catholic. You know, the ones that ‘go’ to church and have abs no clue what is going on, and when preached to by protestants we say we don’t know or give bad answers. Yeah but a real catholic that knows the true doctrine of the CC KNOWS that the CC is God’s church. The one and only.

In the NT there was already a church established, was there not?

 

[Richard_Kastner]

Originally Posted by Richard Kastner

Hi Richard, thanks for your reply.

We believe that our church is the one or at least I think that we are the one (can’t really talk for other SDA) is because of Rev. 12:17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

The dragon (Satan) was angry with the woman (God’s church) and makes war with this remnant church.

Okay, how does Rev 12:17 say that the SDA church is the one?

This church has two basic Characteristics 1) It keeps the commandments of God. This we believe is a reference to the ten commandments and includes the fourth commandment.
Ex.20
8Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Which as you can see is a memorial of creation not the resurrection of Christ.

We keep the commandments of God, too. But we Catholics are under the new covenant. Not the old. The new covenant is that of Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Not of Moses and the Law.

You are saying then that you don’t have to keep the commandments? How about
Jn.14:15If ye love me, keep my commandments.

1. They have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Rev.19:10 Tells us that the testimony of Jesus Christ is the spirit of prophecy. We believe this characteristic is fulfilled in Ellen White. So there you have it we believe that the SDA church is the only modern day church that fulfills the characteristics of God’s end time remnant church.

Okay, you believe Ellen fulfilled the prophecy characteristic. Is the SDA church the only church out there that says it has prophecies and prophets? How come it is the SDA church that is the one. and not all the others?

I believe it is the only church that fullfills both characteristics.

I know the CC is THE ONE TRUE CHURCH. Any true Catholic knows this. I say true because I used to be a ‘bad’ catholic. You know, the ones that ‘go’ to church and have abs no clue what is going on, and when preached to by protestants we say we don’t know or give bad answers. Yeah but a real catholic that knows the true doctrine of the CC KNOWS that the CC is God’s church. The one and only.

In the NT there was already a church established, was there not?

I’m not going to argue with your beliefs. Just stating mine in responce to your questions.

 

[barboza21]

You are saying then that you don’t have to keep the commandments? How about
Jn.14:15If ye love me, keep my commandments.

I believe it is the only church that fullfills both characteristics.

I’m not going to argue with your beliefs. Just stating mine in responce to your questions.

When did I say we don’t keep the commandments?? I didn’t. What I said is that we do nd that we are under the covenant of Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit and the Father. Not under the mosaic law.
Again that verse in Rev. isn’t showing me how the SDA church is the one true church.
In the NT there was a church already established. Where was your church then?

I am simply restatng what I said before because you didn’t really answer, or explain. Sorry I took long to write back. Would love to hear what you have to say about there things.

 

[BTTG]

Why Antiochus Epiphanes cannot be the little horn in Dan 8and 9.

Dan 8:8-9 - the little horn, came out of “one of them”, this either refers to "the four notable ones(horns), or the “four winds of heaven”. We shall see that the little horn came from one of the four winds, from one of the four directions on a compass. In Hebrew nouns are either masculine or feminine. The pronoun must agree with noun in being feminine or muscular or neuter. The “horns” is feminine and the “winds” is either masculine or feminine. In the phrase “out of one of them”, the pronoun “them” is masculine. This means the noun for “them” cannot be “horns”, but must be “winds”. Therefore, the little horn will come not necessarily from the four horns, but from the four winds.

1 and 2 Maccabees does quote Dan 8 and 9 and that Antiochus persecuted Jews and suspended the temple services for a period of time, but he does not fit the little horn of Daniel.

“horns” represents kingdoms, and he was only an individual king- a part of one of the four horns.

Antiochus did not appear at the “latter end” ( Dan. 8:23) of the Selucid kingdom, but in the middle of the Selecuid kingdom. Selecuid kingdom was from 312/311 to 65 BC, Antiochus reigned from 175-164 BC.

Antiochus was surely did not “prosper” vs 12, or grow “exceedingly great” , vs 9. He did secure Egypt for a brief period of time, and then the Roman Empire told him to leave…and he did.

In 1 Maccabees 1:54 it reads “desolating sacrilege” - Dan 9:27 as it refers to Antiochus did to the altar in the Jewish temple. However, Jesus tells us that Daniel’s “desolating sacrilege” was still in the future after His day. In Mat. 24:15 that “let the reader understand”. Antiochus died almost 200 years before Jesus.

Antiochus did interrupt the temple service, however, his interruption was not for 2,300 “evenings and mornings” - Dan 8:14. In Maccabees 1:54-59; 4:52-54, it states that Antiochus interrupted the temple service for three years and ten days which does not fit the 2300 evenings and mornings.

written with love

 

[ryanoneil]

Why Antiochus Epiphanes cannot be the little horn in Dan 8and 9.

Dan 8:8-9 - the little horn, came out of “one of them”, this either refers to "the four notable ones(horns), or the “four winds of heaven”. We shall see that the little horn came from one of the four winds, from one of the four directions on a compass. In Hebrew nouns are either masculine or feminine. The pronoun must agree with noun in being feminine or muscular or neuter. The “horns” is feminine and the “winds” is either masculine or feminine. In the phrase “out of one of them”, the pronoun “them” is masculine. This means the noun for “them” cannot be “horns”, but must be “winds”. Therefore, the little horn will come not necessarily from the four horns, but from the four winds.

Of course he comes from a direction on the compass. There is nothing prophetic about that. The four horns were Seleucus, Antigonus, Philip, and Ptolemeus, the successors of Alexander, who divided his empire among them. The little horn is Antiochus who comes from Seleucus. He grew against the south and the east, by his victories over the kings of Egypt and Armenia; and against the strength, which is God’s people in Jerusalem.

1 and 2 Maccabees does quote Dan 8 and 9 and that Antiochus persecuted Jews and suspended the temple services for a period of time, but he does not fit the little horn of Daniel.

“horns” represents kingdoms, and he was only an individual king- a part of one of the four horns.

Horns represent individuals and kingdoms.

Antiochus did not appear at the “latter end” ( Dan. 8:23) of the Selucid kingdom, but in the middle of the Selecuid kingdom. Selecuid kingdom was from 312/311 to 65 BC, Antiochus reigned from 175-164 BC.

I think v23 is refering to his coming after the four horns.

Antiochus was surely did not “prosper” vs 12, or grow “exceedingly great” , vs 9. He did secure Egypt for a brief period of time, and then the Roman Empire told him to leave…and he did.

The entire vision is concerned with his great conquest against God’s people,

In 1 Maccabees 1:54 it reads “desolating sacrilege” - Dan 9:27 as it refers to Antiochus did to the altar in the Jewish temple. However, Jesus tells us that Daniel’s “desolating sacrilege” was still in the future after His day. In Mat. 24:15 that “let the reader understand”. Antiochus died almost 200 years before Jesus.

As I’ve said the entire time, Christ claims Daniel’s fulfilled prophecy as his own. In other words, Christ is saying that the Temple is going to be desolated in his generation also, but much worse.

Antiochus did interrupt the temple service, however, his interruption was not for 2,300 “evenings and mornings” - Dan 8:14. In Maccabees 1:54-59; 4:52-54, it states that Antiochus interrupted the temple service for three years and ten days which does not fit the 2300 evenings and mornings.

written with love

Six years and almost four months is about the whole time from the beginning of his persecution until his death (143 until 149). His trampling of the Jewish people (trampled host of v13) lasted longer than the Temple incident.

 

[BTTG]

As I’ve said the entire time, Christ claims Daniel’s fulfilled prophecy as his own. In other words, Christ is saying that the Temple is going to be desolated in his generation also, but much worse.

**Response - would you please provide bible reference in which Christ says " the Temple is going to be desolated in His generation, but much worse". thank you

written with love

**

 

[ryanoneil]

**Response - would you please provide bible reference in which Christ says " the Temple is going to be desolated in His generation, but much worse". thank you

written with love

**

**He said to them in reply, “You see all these things, do you not? Amen, I say to you, there will not be left here a stone upon another stone that will not be thrown down.” (Mt 24:2)

"When you see the desolating abomination spoken of through Daniel the prophet standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), then those in Judea must flee to the mountains (Mt 24:15-16)

for at that time there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will be. (Mt 24:21)

Amen, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have taken place. (Mt 24:34)**

Notice in Mt 24:15 the phrase “let the reader understand” is added by the gospel writer (in addition to Christ’s own words). This indicates that the average Jewish Christian of the first century would automatically recognize it for what it was. Luke is more specific about what to look for in the desolating sacrilege. He writes:

"When you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, know that its desolation is at hand (Lk 21:20).

The early Church linked the Matthew and Luke passages together. St. John Chrysostom wrote. “The abomination of desolation means the army by which the holy city of Jerusalem was made desolate” (The Ante-Nicene Fathers: Translations of the Fathers Down to A.D. 325- on Matt 24:15). Unlike Antiochus, the Romans destroyed the Temple and those aspects of biblical Judaism linked to it.

The Greek “generation” denotes about a forty-year time span. Meaning Jesus words would be accomplished within the lifetime of some of his hearers.

"Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees]. . . Amen, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation. "Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how many times I yearned to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her young under her wings, but you were unwilling! Behold, your house will be abandoned, desolate. (Mt 23:36-38)

Don’t be fooled into thinking all of this ONLY talks about our future. Christ’s words came to pass in the first century. The devastation of the Temple and the judgment of Isreal in A.D. 70 was the small scale model of what would happen to the entire world at Christ Second Coming in glory. Fulfilled events in Daniel pointed to (prefigured) events in Christ’s generation (end of the Old Covenant age). And the fulfilled events in Christ’s generation point to the judgment of all nations by Christ at the very end.

 

[BTTG]

Who is the " Ancient of Days", in Dan. 7:22?

thank you

written with love

 

[BTTG]

**He said to them in reply, “You see all these things, do you not? Amen, I say to you, there will not be left here a stone upon another stone that will not be thrown down.” (Mt 24:2)

"When you see the desolating abomination spoken of through Daniel the prophet standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), then those in Judea must flee to the mountains (Mt 24:15-16)

for at that time there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will be. (Mt 24:21)

Amen, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have taken place. (Mt 24:34)**

Notice in Mt 24:15 the phrase “let the reader understand” is added by the gospel writer (in addition to Christ’s own words). This indicates that the average Jewish Christian of the first century would automatically recognize it for what it was. Luke is more specific about what to look for in the desolating sacrilege. He writes:

"When you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, know that its desolation is at hand (Lk 21:20).

The early Church linked the Matthew and Luke passages together. St. John Chrysostom wrote. “The abomination of desolation means the army by which the holy city of Jerusalem was made desolate” (The Ante-Nicene Fathers: Translations of the Fathers Down to A.D. 325- on Matt 24:15). Unlike Antiochus, the Romans destroyed the Temple and those aspects of biblical Judaism linked to it.

The Greek “generation” denotes about a forty-year time span. Meaning Jesus words would be accomplished within the lifetime of some of his hearers.

"Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees]. . . Amen, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation. "Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how many times I yearned to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her young under her wings, but you were unwilling! Behold, your house will be abandoned, desolate. (Mt 23:36-38)

Don’t be fooled into thinking all of this ONLY talks about our future. Christ’s words came to pass in the first century. The devastation of the Temple and the judgment of Isreal in A.D. 70 was the small scale model of what would happen to the entire world at Christ Second Coming in glory. Fulfilled events in Daniel pointed to (prefigured) events in Christ’s generation (end of the Old Covenant age). And the fulfilled events in Christ’s generation point to the judgment of all nations by Christ at the very end.

Response - i agree with your post.

 

[ryanoneil]

Who is the " Ancient of Days", in Dan. 7:22?

thank you

written with love

It is God the Father.