What does politics have to do with religion

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I saw that as a way of being fair. Show no favoritism or bias in government to any particular God.
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Yes I think a lot of people see it that way too.

However I think the experience of having those policies is to favour those who are openly hostile to the idea of God and want Him removed.

I don’t know that it is possible to be neutral in this regard.

In showing no favouritism between certain groups by removing God we are showing very strong favouritism to a different group.

There are a lot of people who are going to see that as not just unfair but unjust.
 
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I’m simply going to quote Justin Trudeau: “Common sense will prevail eventually.” Yup. This November! Tune in!
 
What good is a government that shows bias towards a particular religion?
 
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What good is a government that shows bias towards a particular religion?
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That is an interesting question that we can talk about but before we do, please let me throw a similar question back at you.

What good is a government that shows bias towards no religion?
 
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What good is a government that shows bias towards no religion?
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I’m pretty much fed up with a democratic republic. Enduring 20 month-long campaigns every two years, with half the country attacking the other half and vice versa, is not my idea of sane government.

I’d take a limited, Christian monarchy, complete with Parliamentary representation, such as what Britain has, over our banana-fied republic.
 
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I’m pretty much fed up with a democratic republic. Enduring 20 month-long campaigns every two years, with half the country attacking the other half and vice versa, is not my idea of sane government.
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To continue the theme with Jump4Joy, I think one affect of government being biased towards no religion is that now a large percentage of people see their religion in terms of politics which was the exact opposite effect that people like Jump4Joy had expected.

With partisan media it has become very divisive and tribe like.
 
Jump4Joy said:
How is that dangerous to have an irreligious government?
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Be careful with words Jump4Joy. You are dancing around using different words.

Your comment was what good is a government that is biased towards a particular religion.

My question back was to ask you what good is a government biased towards no religion.

You are changing the words now to be an irreligious government.

We are not talking about an irreligious government (which is quite vague) we are talking about a government that is biased towards no religion. That remains the question. What good is that?
 
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I would assume a government without any religious foundation would be more fair like secular humanism. We live in a multicultural America.
 
Jump4Joy said:
I would assume a government without any religious foundation would be more fair like secular humanism. We live in a multicultural America.
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First of all I am not American.

Secondly the most horrific governments in history have been in the last 100 years and they share the commonality of wanting to build their foundations on non religious principles. They were certainly biased against religion.

Part of your America is religious. Why favour non religion in your government. Isn’t that unjust?
 
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There are so many different sects of Christianity and different religions in general to favor Catholicism
 
Jump4Joy said:
There are so many different sects of Christianity and different religions in general to favor Catholicism
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I am not advocating that the government should favour Catholicism above other religions or no religion, that would be unjust.

I am arguing that you wanting to favour ‘no religion’ above Christianity and other religions is just as unjust.
 
I don’t think Catholicism is unjust. I think a government showing favoritism Catholic values could be unjust to others.
 
I don’t think secular humanism is unjust, I think a government showing favouritism to secular humanist values could be unjust to others.
 
You know, there are non-American Catholics here. The only one of your points that somehow applies globally is being anti-abortion, which is arguably something which every Catholic is obliged to be.

What does being “anti-gay” even mean?
 
People can be rather unkind to lgbtq community online. A few, not all. Lgbtq and abortion are the issues most people make no exceptions for others.
 
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