What has caused the homosexual boom in our time?

[1ke]

I want to note that the Greeks are not buying the modern idea about the prevalence of homosexuality in ancient Greece

I would say the modern notion of “homosexuality” could not even be conceived of by the ancients, to them it would be nonsensical.

 

[GEddie]

TTASM, the rise in alternate sexualities since the mid 1900s originates in an obsessive interest in and curiosity toward all things sexual, ginned up by the popular media, which has encouraged “experimentation” in the various forms of sex.

Prior to Facebook, no-one would have ever dreamt that human life could have 51 genders!

ICXC NIKA.

 

[StGerardMajella]

What has caused the homosexual boom in our time?

The breakdown of the family unit. Specifically, the decline of paternal role models. Too many young men are growing up in homes without a father present.

 

[ChibiViolet]

The idea that the purpose of marriage was something other than the procreation of children is a wholesale new invention of the last 100 years. The idea that two people of the same sex would be in any sort of “relationship” mimicking marriage was inconceivable. Yes, that is the fruit of contraception. The purpose of marriage has been ignored.

Marriage is also a vocation and is about love too–above all about love actually and children are to potentially come out of this love. I know because of Theology of the Body, which I acknowledge is relatively new, historically speaking, but this is how God intended marriage to be (and yes, of course between a man and a woman.)

 

[MarcoPolo]

An article by an atheist a couple years ago talks about the propaganda and large financial funding of this movement.

 

[Beryllos]

An article by an atheist a couple years ago talks about the propaganda and large financial funding of this movement.

I’ve just read it. Fascinating!

 

[Abba]

Please try to watch how you quote people. You’ve inserted my response to something else into your post.
Thanks.

I made a comment before quoting you regarding something else. Then I quoted you and asked a question in reference to the quote. Sorry about the confusion.

I am asking you if you really think there was such a great amount of people with SSA back let’s say before this boom. It just seems to be so many people. I do think they are promoting their situation well, use the media well and have succeeded in getting laws passed etc…which calls a lot of attention to them. But, taking a look back in history I question that there were so many people with SSA as there are now.

 

[truthquester]

I say it is natures way of removing some of the seed from the gene pool lol lol

 

[EasterJoy]

In other animals, such as rodents and primates, researches have reported that colonies with no food pressure but a lot of crowding will sometimes exhibit a spike in same-sex attraction, animals ignoring their own sex sexually, violence, and other behavioral changes. We don’t know a lot about how sexual attraction is related to biology and the many unusual biological pressures that are typical of modern life. (For instance, our species has never lived with anything like as much light, visual, sound, and other stimuli as we do now, not to mention entirely different nutritional patterns from before birth and throughout life.)

The confounding variable is that we have no idea how prevalent same-sex attraction used to be, or even how “same-sex attraction” could be quantified in a scientifically meaningful way in order to study it rigorously now. Even those who are experiencing sexual attractions don’t understand them. Sometimes, they don’t even admit them! That makes all of this very difficult to quantify, let alone sort out.

 

[Bill_Martin]

I think the responses so far have missed the simplest and probably best explanation of all—politics.

As an issue gets dragged into political debates, it is no longer just about the issue itself. It’s now a strategic hilltop in a very large, very old political battleground between right and left. Stances on gay marriage become identifiers. Thus, one side pushes while the other pushes back.

Furthermore, as a political debate gets longer, it becomes even less about the issue at hand and instead becomes about each side getting its way. You can easily see this in the way both sides treat it.

Compromise is impossible because it doesn’t subjugate the opponent. Separating the civil component of marriage from the sacramental one and preventing the government from defining marriage at all would essentially accomplish what both sides claim they want. The left gets everyone treated equally under the law, and the right defends marriage by preventing a officially recognized redefinition of it that threatens religious liberty. That isn’t good enough. The two sides want to force the other to admit defeat.

Look at how tolerance and diversity–both of which in practice really just mean acceptance of homosexuality-- have become the rallying cries for the left, the ultimate virtues. Meanwhile homosexuality has become the ultimate evil to the right. This forum is absolutely inundated with threads on it. It’s treated far differently than any other sexual sin. Tell the average conservative Christian you have a porn addiction and they’ll likely sympathize and offer advice. Tell him you’re gay and they’ll look at you differently. Now you’re taking a political side, whether you think you are or not. .

If one of the parties in 1840 had taken this on as their cause, this would have been playing out back then. Homosexuality is nothing new, but a politicized version is.

 

[SuperLuigi]

Is it due to physical and/or social environmental changes? Was the sexual revolution of the 60s a factor? What exactly was the sexual revolution? Did the introduction of the pills, condoms and other birth control methods contribute to the rise of people suffering from same sex attraction? Does abortion plays a role? What about the so-called women liberation movement? Was such an abundance always there and just manifested itself? Has the internet played a role in promoting same sex attraction?

I don’t think people are going to like the answer to that question, because ultimately it comes down to factors such as irresponsible leadership among the Churches, complacent parent and religious education and the big one—entitlements.

Usually, the conversation is over right there because people immediately become defensive and say things like “are you saying I’m a bad parent/my Church is somehow wrong?”.

That’s another reason why we are “losing” on the issue.

I say entitlements because the philosophy behind them is “I or we (even Churches) can control the government beast and it won’t possibly turn on me”. Just look at how “surprised” everyone in America was when Obama Administration forced the Little Sisters of the Poor to pay for college students’ contraception.

So-called gay “marriage” isn’t about equality, it’s an entitlement, just like a farm or a wind subsidy or welfare if you are talking about America. And in reality, people who vehemently disagreed with so-called gay “marriage” voted people in over and over and over because of an entitlement or propaganda slogan they liked. And on top of that, if you live in America, you are surrounded by people who say they are “humble, homegrown and moral” who not only do this but make excuses for their family and friends who get an entitlement, even if it costs them.

The gay “marriage” movement used the same platform that everyone else who wanted an entitlement used—they made their cause cool and neat, demonized the opposition into silence, portrayed themselves as victims, and garnered enough support among this supposedly great and righteous “silent majority” we used to hear about to desperately want a progressive arrow or two in their social quiver so that someone could give them partial approval of coolness.

So, when we REALLY think about it, is it really any wonder why we are where we are?

 

[esieffe]

I think it was Disco…
“Dont blame it on sunshine, don’t blame it on moonlight, dont blame it on good times, blame it on boogie…”

 

[cjforJesus]

Is it due to physical and/or social environmental changes? Was the sexual revolution of the 60s a factor? What exactly was the sexual revolution? Did the introduction of the pills, condoms and other birth control methods contribute to the rise of people suffering from same sex attraction? Does abortion plays a role? What about the so-called women liberation movement? Was such an abundance always there and just manifested itself? Has the internet played a role in promoting same sex attraction?

I think I read somewhere it is related to the hormones in birth control pills contaminating the water supply.I also read that certain plastics contain a chemical that replaces or mimics estrogen.

In either case one cannot deny that a great many male homosexuals are effeminate and many female homosexuals are masculine looking. I think it is nature frustrated by external factors and then these physical problems leading to psychological ones in early development.

The catechism says that the psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Since a large part of sexuality resides in our brains then that would seem to give it a psychological basis too.

 

[Birdpreacher]

Its all because the Supreme Court told Texas and other states that you couldn’t throw gays in jail for commiting homosexual acts.

 

[cjforJesus]

Its all because the Supreme Court told Texas and other states that you couldn’t throw gays in jail for commiting homosexual acts.

That is silly! I think there are more factors involving pollution of the environment and fetuses being affected in utero and then this problem of feminisation and masculinisations creating psychological ones.

I read that a male fetus that is feminised by hormones show distinct characteristics.One is a marked shortening of the distance from the anus to the genitals.

 

[cjforJesus]

Its all because the Supreme Court told Texas and other states that you couldn’t throw gays in jail for commiting homosexual acts.

dutasteride has been assigned to pregnancy category X by the FDA. Intravenous animal embryo-fetal development studies have revealed evidence of reduction in fetal adrenal weights, reduction in fetal prostate weights, increases in fetal ovarian and testis weights, feminization of male fetuses (decreased anogenital distance) and male offspring with nipple development, hypospadias, and distended preputial glands.

This is just one drug that can cause feminisation.It is gereally used fro prostate cancer but if a woman accidentally handles or absorbs

 

[Abba]

I think I read somewhere it is related to the hormones in birth control pills contaminating the water supply.I also read that certain plastics contain a chemical that replaces or mimics estrogen.

Yes, I read about this myself and this is the reason I put physical environment on the list. If so, the birth control pills have contributed in more ways than one. I read about the frogs of New Jersey and the crocodiles of Florida and how they are being born with both sex organs etc… as a result of the pollution in the water (maybe estrogen?).

 

[Abba]

Pesticide Turns Male Frogs into Females
livescience.com/10957-pesticide-turns-male-frogs-females.html

A key culprit in the sex change may be aromatase, a protein that spurs the production of the female hormone estrogen, causing originally male gonads to become ovaries. Atrazine may be boosting the production of aromatase.
scientificamerican.com/article/sex-changing-weed-killer/

our use of the pill started changing the gender of frogs and salamanders
frogmatters.wordpress.com/2008/04/06/how-our-sex-life-has-decimated-amphibian-species/

Alligators and Endocrine Disrupting Contaminants: A Current Perspective
icb.oxfordjournals.org/content/40/3/438.full

I wonder what quantity of these chemicals the FDA has approved to be in our drinking water.

 

[Mummsie]

An article by an atheist a couple years ago talks about the propaganda and large financial funding of this movement.

Holy Cow!! I just read that article. Kind of scary to think “the elite” have driven this whole thing. And for what? 4% of our population? What are they working on now?

Thanks Marco. God Bless You.

 

[cjforJesus]

Holy Cow!! I just read that article. Kind of scary to think “the elite” have driven this whole thing. And for what? 4% of our population? What are they working on now?

Thanks Marco. God Bless You.

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