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rpp
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You said that in Scripture, God punishes the innocent. Where is that and why do you say that? Please do not dodge the question.
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Agabriel
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Why don’t you guys start another thread about God punishing countries over their bad deeds?
What has provoked Muslim violence? The Quran, Muhammed, and ‘good deeds’ being defined as terrorizing and killing of unbelievers. The unstable idea that a Muslim will get to heaven unless they perform ‘good deeds’ and fight for Allah/Muhammed’s cause with their lives and/or their wealth.
Good deeds in Islam:
there are 100s of commands ordering Muslims to obey, believe and follow Muhammed’s example. And we know what Muhammed did - enslave/rape, torture, persecute, kill, and deceive unbelievers.
And if they do not do this they are called hypocrits. And hypocrits are to get the same fate as unbelievers. Surah 59 11, 17, 22, 63: 1, 4, etc defines and tells of the fate of Muslims who are hypocrites (just a few examples).
Until we all read the Quran (and it is helpful to read some hadith and the sira to make the Quran make sense since it is so kludgy) we will continue to ask these questions and wonder why… and the Muslims, who are considered ‘good Muslims’ will not be helpful since they are told to intentionally deceive us to know the Quran: 6:25 6:110 17:45-76.
It is the reason why they were prohibited to bring the Quran with them when they migrated to new lands to eventually conquer - they did not want the infidel to know the true intent of Islam (imperialistic political movement - to make Islam the dominant religion and to reclaim all for Allah/Muhammed)
What has provoked Muslim violence? The Quran, Muhammed, and ‘good deeds’ being defined as terrorizing and killing of unbelievers. The unstable idea that a Muslim will get to heaven unless they perform ‘good deeds’ and fight for Allah/Muhammed’s cause with their lives and/or their wealth.
Good deeds in Islam:
- To believe in me and our doctrine
- To fight on behalf of our cause
there are 100s of commands ordering Muslims to obey, believe and follow Muhammed’s example. And we know what Muhammed did - enslave/rape, torture, persecute, kill, and deceive unbelievers.
And if they do not do this they are called hypocrits. And hypocrits are to get the same fate as unbelievers. Surah 59 11, 17, 22, 63: 1, 4, etc defines and tells of the fate of Muslims who are hypocrites (just a few examples).
Until we all read the Quran (and it is helpful to read some hadith and the sira to make the Quran make sense since it is so kludgy) we will continue to ask these questions and wonder why… and the Muslims, who are considered ‘good Muslims’ will not be helpful since they are told to intentionally deceive us to know the Quran: 6:25 6:110 17:45-76.
It is the reason why they were prohibited to bring the Quran with them when they migrated to new lands to eventually conquer - they did not want the infidel to know the true intent of Islam (imperialistic political movement - to make Islam the dominant religion and to reclaim all for Allah/Muhammed)
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sedonaman
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Chris_LaRock
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Punishing sin isn’t twisted. To allow sin to continue indefinately after promising to bring it to an end would be twisted.
Back on topic:
The Muslim violence against America seems to be happening for two reasons.
- The U.S. support for Israel.
- God has handed our nation over to our enemies for turning from Him.
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