What is happening to America today?

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There are some interesting statistics here and an overall point of view from the Cardinal Miindzenty Foundation:

http://mindszenty.org/PDFs/2020/July2020.pdf
Faced with the cultural revolution and political insurgency that
we are witnessing today, we have to ask ourselves, as Lenin asked
earlier, “What is to be done?” Our answer is: organize, organize,
organize. Conservatives have demonstrated successful organizing
in the pro-life and anti-ERA grassroots movements and occasional
elections of stalwart leaders. … our voices need to be heard at city council
meetings, church groups, school boards, political clubs and on
opinion pages and social media. We can vote with our feet and
our wallets as well as with ballots. We must remember that we are
the real grassroots—and by exerting our power, we can steady
the nation.
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They’re probably right about “organize, organize, organize”. Starting with Catholics, we need to do a better job joining together to support good, societal goals.
 
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“What is happening to America today?”

Nietzsche’s ‘last man’ is coming to fruition.
 
The problem as I see it is that Americans tend to overpoliticize everything, be it abortion or virus vaccines or healthcare or you name it. It only helps to win elections, not much more. Certainly doesn’t make the world a better place.

Then again I could be oversimplifying things.
 
ProVobis said:
The problem as I see it is that Americans tend to overpoliticize everything, be it abortion or virus vaccines or healthcare or you name it. It only helps to win elections, not much more. Certainly doesn’t make the world a better place.

Then again I could be oversimplifying things.
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We also prefer the Big things to do, and not so much the small things that are quietly done.
People are concerned with racism so the first thing they do is get a sign and march around and hope to get on TV.
As you say - it’s about making a big political splash, but why not just quietly try to make good changes at the smallest, local level?
 
StudentMI said:
Nietzsche’s ‘last man’ is coming to fruition.
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Seriously? I can appreciate that things are bad at the moment, but surely that is a massive exaggeration. The vast majority of polling suggests a comfortable lead for Biden, giving good reason to hope that Trump’s presidency will come to and end on January 20, 2021. In the event that Trump does win the election, he is at least prevented by Amendment XXII from running for a third term. In any case, the United States enjoys one of the world’s most carefully crafted systems of government, including a written constitution, separation of powers between the branches of government, division of powers between federal and state governments, bicameral legislature, and midterm and staggered elections. The United States has survived worse; it will survive this.
 
EmilyAlexandra said:
The United States has survived worse; it will survive this.
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The survival of the United States is not the issue of concern here. It could actually be better, in the eyes of God, if the whole thing collapsed and a Catholic state emerged from the ruins, as happened with the fall of Rome. But the country as a political entity - surviving or not, is pretty much irrelevant if its citizens descend into nihilism, as they are and have been doing.
 
Since I am not God, I’ll not wish for the fall of the United States of America, a country for which I have the greatest admiration. Much as a detest Donald Trump, all his works, and all that he stands for, I think it is an exaggeration to describe the present moment in American history as a descent into nihilism. It’s bad, but it’s hardly Nietzschean in scale.
 
I remember people predicting the collapse of western civilization since I was 11 years old. And yet somehow life goes on.
I get that things change and not always for the better, but this doom and gloom narrative gets repeated every year it feels like.
 
I had not in fact considered the abortion angle. If Trump is pro-life, I suppose that is one respect in which he is not nihilistic. Of course, his conversion to the pro-life cause did come rather late in life and coincided rather conveniently with his bid for the presidency…
 
EmilyAlexandra said:
I had not in fact considered the abortion angle. If Trump is pro-life, I suppose that is one respect in which he is not nihilistic. Of course, his conversion to the pro-life cause did come rather late in life and coincided rather conveniently with his bid for the presidency…
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That is fair and a good response. He has done more for the pro-life movement, whether sincere or not, than any other president so far. The point here is that you wouldn’t oppose “all his works” in that case. I’m am glad to see your openness to this and willingness to re-consider. It’s a rare thing to find in these sorts of issues.
 
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I get that things change and not always for the better, but this doom and gloom narrative gets repeated every year it feels like.
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In my view, Western civilization has already collapsed. Things get worse every year, according to my standards - not better at all
 
This narrative of “the western world is super bad and evil now >:(” is repeated all the time, and I legitimately don’t understand it. I don’t want to marginalize the problems that the modern world faces, but the West has not collapsed, nor is it on the brink of collapse. There are problems with society, but the world isn’t crashing down around our ears.

People simply lend too much credence to soundbites from Twitter and Reddit, as if those demographics represent reality, when in reality they represent only the more polarizing sides of it, the sides who are more apt to claim that the entire system is irreparably broken beyond repair and that the only solution is this candidate or this religion or this policy or what-have-you. Half the time people are just being dramatic for likes and karma anyway, and it’s really obvious when someone is just fishing for attention.

If western society has collapsed by your standards, then you have some pretty rigid standards, and I doubt that anyone could hope to meet them lol.

That’s the way I see it anyway. I’m sure plenty disagree.
 
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EmilyAlexandra said:
The United States has survived worse; it will survive this.
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Yes, but according to former President Bush, 9/11 changed everything. He might have had a point, as the US realized the large bodies of water on either side don’t make the country less vulnerable to direct attack. It still needs allies.
 
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Does that mean Biden’s conversion to the very radical pro-Abortion position he now espouses coincided with his run for the presidency? Which of course it probably does …

But then that begs the questions:
  • Whose conversion is for the “good” of America? …
  • The one who chooses the life of the most innocent voiceless - in many respects faceless - person who in unable to vote in their election?
    OR
  • The one who chooses to end the life of that most innocent voiceless victim in order to gain the votes of the NARAL Pro-Choice Planned Parenthood abortion mills Lobby and supporters that kill the victims - including minorities in huge numbers?
  • Which conversion is more Christian/Catholic?
 
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EmilyAlexandra said:
In any case, the United States enjoys one of the world’s most carefully crafted systems of government,
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It actually was copied from the Roman Empire with its three equal branches, a Senatus, Cabinet, two parties, and a system of checks and balances. The latter works at least in theory anyway.
 
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The problem is that all democratic systems are based on the fallacy that all are equally fit to rule.
 
Your entire post is predicated on the problem being a Trump presidency. Therein lies the problem. The issues in America are not the result of this President, or the last one, and will not simply get better with the next one. Previous posts pointed out the politicization of things that need not be political, and your post dove right in and did that. Why?
 
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