What is Islam? And is it true or false?

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By 1.5 billion Christians.

Islam often states what it is not.

Christianity states what it is.

No difference?
 
po18guy said:
Islam often states what it is not.

Christianity states what it is.

No difference?
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Why don’t you give some examples of what you’re talking about? How does Islam state what it is not? And make sure that Christianity never states what it is not in any way.
 
JanSobieskiIII said:
Islam is a Christian heresy that got out of hand. It has some truths within it but is not the full truth. That is only found within the Catholic Church.
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Yeah, my impression has always been that Islam is some ersatz version of Christianity. Especially given where and when it was invented.
 
It’s a great religion in many ways. It’s not true, though. Muhammad taught that anyone who leaves Islam must be killed. That leads to many people following Islam out of fear. They want to leave Islam, but the threat of execution prevents them. Only a deeply sinister religion would keep people following it out of fear.
 
Demanding! Why are you so accusatory? I suspect that everyone here is wasting their time, but…

Sura 18 - Al-Kahf (MAKKA) : Verse 4And to warn those who have said that Allah has had a son,
Translation : Eng-Mufti-Taqi-Usmani-AudioSura 18 - Al-Kahf (MAKKA) : Verse 4And to warn those who say: Allah hath chosen a son,
Translation : Eng-Pickthal-AudioSura 18 - Al-Kahf (MAKKA) : Verse 4Further that He may warn those (also) who say “Allah hath begotten a son”:
Translation : Eng-Yusuf AliSura 19 - Maryam (MAKKA) : Verse 91For they have ascribed a son to the All-Merciful (Allah),
Translation : Eng-Mufti-Taqi-Usmani-AudioSura 16 - An-Nahl (MAKKA) : Verse 57And they assign daughters for Allah!― Glory be to Him!― and for themselves (sons― the issue) they desire!
Translation : Eng-Yusuf AliSura 19 - Maryam (MAKKA) : Verse 88They say, “The All-Merciful (Allah) has got a son.”
Translation : Eng-Mufti-Taqi-Usmani-AudioSura 19 - Maryam (MAKKA) : Verse 88They say: “(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!”
Translation : Eng-Yusuf AliSura 19 - Maryam (MAKKA) : Verse 91That they should invoke a son for (Allah) Most Gracious.
Translation : Eng-Yusuf AliSura 19 - Maryam (MAKKA) : Verse 92For it is not consonant with the majesty of (Allah) Most Gracious that He should beget a son.
Translation : Eng-Yusuf AliSura 37 - As-Saaffat (MAKKA) : Verse 153Is it that Allah has chosen daughters (for Himself) instead of sons?
 
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I disagree. The OT is a foundation but Christianity is based on Christ. Islam is based on Muhammed. So it is fair to compare the lives of the two as historical characters (articles of faith cannot be proved). And in that comparison, Muhammed is very much lacking.
 
There’s a lot more to Islam than the few verses you’ve quoted from the Qur’an. And how are Christianity and Judaism any different? The bible also has verses which speak out against other religions that are considered false and the Jewish/Christian God is compared to the gods of these other religions.
 
Dan_Defender said:
I disagree. The OT is a foundation but Christianity is based on Christ. Islam is based on Muhammed. So it is fair to compare the lives of the two as historical characters (articles of faith cannot be proved). And in that comparison, Muhammed is very much lacking.
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You can’t compare Christ to Muhammad since Muslims don’t consider Muhammad to be divine in any way. Muslims consider Muhammad to be a prophet, but he was just a man nonetheless. As it says in Quran 18:110 where God tells Muhammad what to say:
Say [O Prophet], "I am only a human like you. It is revealed to me that your God is only One God. So, whoever looks forward to meeting with His Lord, let him do works that help others and ascribe no partners in the service of his Lord.”
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Instead, it is more accurate to compare Christ to the Qur’an. As it says in John 1:14:
And the Word became flesh and lived among us, and we have seen his glory, the glory as of a father’s only son, full of grace and truth.
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For Muslims, the Qur’an is also the word of God which was revealed verbatim to Muhammad. Christianity is based on Christ and Islam is based on the Qur’an.

Muhammad and many of his companions do, of course, serve as exemplars to later Muslims, but the apostles and various Christian saints also serve as exemplars to later Christians.
 
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Islam teaches virtues for the followers from the beginning like the clergy level of Christianity; allows the conversion by force, execution or punishments or protection tax; etc. offers heavenly promise and so on.

Islam gives Alliah [means One God, duplicate name of a god of Normadic] for the God Father of Yeshua [means Jehovah Salvation]. Not admit Jehovah [means I am is I am and will be I am/will be] of Judah and Christianity; denies the divinity of both Yeshua and the Holy Spirit of Christianity; denies the resurrection of Yeshua and rejects Yeshua is the son of God

In another word, no Trinity God. Yeshua is the Savior but not the son of God. Yeshua is just an ordinary guy who was not crucified and resurrected but Alliah is the God Father of Christianity and so God of Israel too or One God for all. God is not Messiah. There is the spirit of the Holy, but not a divine.

Quran used Alliah for Jehovah to fabricate stories in the Old Testimony.

Secret hidden of Quran automatically gives invalid state of gospels, revelation and teachings of Jesus and all Christian saints and saint hoods of Christian martyrs after Jesus vanished. Invalid state of gospels of Torah and Christianity about Jehovah and Messiah in the Old Testimony. Automatically implies Christian martyrs were just the criminals of demonic Pagans; etc. Remove faith in Gods of Christians and Jews and no divine Savior.

I trust in Jesus name.
 
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Islam denies the Holy Spirit. According to Muhammad, he is that Spirit (Ahmad). Enough said.
 
Thorolfr said:
You can’t compare Christ to Muhammad since Muslims don’t consider Muhammad to be divine in any way.
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Muhammad is essentially divine. Notice the multitude of quranic verses using the phrase “God and His Messenger” as if the two were one and the same. Although the Quran clearly states Muhammad is merely an human, the way in which Muhammad wielded authority is comparable to Jesus. What does it matter if Muhammad is not regarded as divine when he acts divine? Both Muhammad and Jesus commanded their followers to die for them and their cause.

When someone believes that killing animals is wrong, and yet, they buy meat from the butcher shop — why should their beliefs matter to others?
 
JanSobieskiIII said:
Islam is a Christian heresy that got out of hand. It has some truths within it but is not the full truth. That is only found within the Catholic Church.
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One of Satan’s favourite methods of deception is to mix truth with lies, light with darkness, good with evil. A con-man disguises himself as someone good.
 
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I read a book about the Prophet Muhammad by Karen Armstrong. It was really insightful and interesting but for me, Catholicism incorporates everything about God.
 
Doesn’t change what it’s foundation is.

Protestantism has changed a lot since the 1500s, it’s still a heresy as well.
 
St. John lived about 100 years after Mohammad. So yeah I’d say the groundwork was pretty much done by the time of the caliphates.
 
JanSobieskiIII said:
Islam is a Christian heresy that got out of hand. It has some truths within it but is not the full truth. That is only found within the Catholic Church.
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And I’m sure that many people in the 1st century considered Christianity to be a Jewish heresy that got out of hand.
 
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Weak argument. Christianity is truth, not a perversion of truth. There is no comparison between Islam and Christianity or Judaism because Islam is false.
 
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