What is the CENTRAL Truth of Christianity?

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jkiernan56 said:
The Truth that will never change is that “God IS”. There is no greater truth than the reality of God’s existence - “I AM WHO AM”. I know this Truth from personal experience. Tomorrow will not change reality. Tomorrow will not change truth. Tomorrow will not change what does actually EXIST. Perception may change - reality does not.

Sanity is getting in touch with reality. Living according to what is not real is insanity.
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Tomorrow will not change the ‘Truth’ of God, nor will today. However, tomorrow may change our ‘reality’ by perception of God, or perhaps today… as that then becomes the ‘reality’… the Truth remains.

And yes, sanity and reality are linked together.
 
jkiernan56 said:
I’m curious to know what other people think is the central TRUTH of Christianity.

A better question I would like to ask is … “How do you know it is the central truth of Christianity from your own life experience?”

I will start by saying that I think the central truth of Christianity is the Resurrection of Christ. St. Paul says that if Christ did not rise from the dead, you are still in your sins and that we are the “greatest of fools.” Since we believe and know that Christ is Risen and Alive … through His love and grace He is changing people’s lives …is changing my own life for the good.

Too many people get lost in the forest because of all trees. This central truth of Christianity I believe is the center and starting point of our faith. Some people might say the central truth is knowing who Christ is as a Person … I’m just interested what others might say on this matter.

And to answer the second question about how I know this is the central truth of Christianity from my own personal life experience … that Christ is Risen … that He is Alive … I would like to think and reflect on this a little more before I respond to it.
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The central truth of Christianity is Jesus Christ: His Person, His Mysteries, and His life and mission. Without Him, we could not believe in the Trinity, nor in the Church, nor in the Eucharist, nor in Purgatory, nor the Gospels, nor in any other truth or reality.

His Person: The God-Man, the Son of God Incarnate, the New Adam, the Messiah, the Redeemer, the Lamb of God, the Eternal Priest, Prophet, and King

His Mysteries: The Incarnation, the Transfiguration, the Institution of the Eucharist, the Passion, the Resurrection, and the Ascension. Some would add Pentecost, but I’m restricting myself to the Mysteries of Christ during His time on Earth. But if someone wants to add Pentecost to the list, they can.

His life: All the events of His life, all of His words and labors, all of His prayers, His joys, His crosses, His temptations, His miracles, His glories, and His example.

His mission: The salvation of souls. I believe, in a certain sense, this not only includes redemption but also reparation and corporal and spiritual works of charity and mercy: instruction, healing, comforting, raising the dead, exorcising demons, praying, etc.
 
The central Truth of the Catholic Church is that Jesus Christ is truly present,
Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity, under the signs (appearances) of bread and wine.

This Truth is known as the Eucharist which is the source and summit of Christian life.
The Eucharist contains the Church’s entire spiritual wealth: Christ, Himself.

The following website is a simple, concise, and definitely to the point, pastoral letter on
the Holy Eucharist. Read it slowly in sections, meditate on it, pray with it, share it. Even though you already know what is in it since it is primarily basic information, it will warm your heart and affirm your mind.

www.rockforddiocese.org
click Meet Bishop Doran. Then click Bishop Doran’s “Pastoral Letter on the Eucharist”, 1997
or try
www.rockforddiocese.org/bishop
and click the Pastoral Letter.

Blessings,
granny

All human life is worthy of profound respect. Human life is sacred.
 
grannymh said:
The central Truth of the Catholic Church is that Jesus Christ is truly present,
Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity, under the signs (appearances) of bread and wine.

This Truth is known as the Eucharist which is the source and summit of Christian life.
The Eucharist contains the Church’s entire spiritual wealth: Christ, Himself.

The following website is a simple, concise, and definitely to the point, pastoral letter on
the Holy Eucharist. Read it slowly in sections, meditate on it, pray with it, share it. Even though you already know what is in it since it is primarily basic information, it will warm your heart and affirm your mind.

www.rockforddiocese.org
click Meet Bishop Doran. Then click Bishop Doran’s “Pastoral Letter on the Eucharist”, 1997
or try
www.rockforddiocese.org/bishop
and click the Pastoral Letter.

Blessings,
granny

All human life is worthy of profound respect. Human life is sacred.
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What truth does the Catholic Faith rest on - the Resurrection or the Eucharist? Or are we talking about the same reality? Is not the Eucharist the risen Christ?

Would we have the Eucharist today if Christ had not risen from the dead?

Or is it because Christ is risen from the dead that we have the Eucharist today?

Is there a reason St. Paul says that “if Christ had not risen from the dead, we are still in our sins?” Why didn’t he say “if Christ was not present in the Eucharist, you would still be in your sins?”

Personally I think St. Paul is talking about the same reality - but there is no Catholic Faith without the Resurrection - nor do I believe we would have the Eucharist if Christ had not risen from the dead.
 
jkiernan56 said:
What truth does the Catholic Faith rest on - the Resurrection or the Eucharist? Or are we talking about the same reality? Is not the Eucharist the risen Christ?

The Catholic Faith rests on many truths. I was replying to the concept of the Central Truth. Regarding same reality, there are many ways to view the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.
Would we have the Eucharist today if Christ had not risen from the dead?
Or is it because Christ is risen from the dead that we have the Eucharist today?
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jkiernan56 said:
When it comes to the evidence of the Resurrection, the Apostles were eye-witnesses. The Resurrection of Christ is TRUE, it is REAL, it REALLY did happen. It is Empirical Evidence. It is the CENTRAL TRUTH of Christianity.
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A human claiming something happened, is not empirical. Sorry, but it’s not. Human observations count * toward* empirical evidence but it must be able to be replicated under conditions where no other factor may influence the observation.

There is no evidence empirical or otherwise, of a ressurection. There are several books, written within a culture, by those that did not even know Jesus that make up the stories of his life.

If you want to know about the history of the bible, I would suggest you start with an individual who does not have their “belief” system so closely tied to it.
 
grannymh said:
The central Truth of the Catholic Church is that Jesus Christ is truly present,
Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity, under the signs (appearances) of bread and wine.

This Truth is known as the Eucharist which is the source and summit of Christian life.
The Eucharist contains the Church’s entire spiritual wealth: Christ, Himself.
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Actually none of that came from Jesus.

All of that came from your church and it’s interpretations of a 2000 yr old book. 🙂
 
Numinous said:
Wrong. The Last Supper is the First Eucharist. Christ did it first.
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um…the last supper is not the Eucharist.

The Eucharist is a very organized and flamboyant and rule based ritual, that does not in any way reflect the man called Jesus.

The Eucharist is no longer the inclusive event as Jesus made the last supper out to be. Within your religion it is a tradition that rejects all those that you think are wrong in some way. It rejects…it does not include and embrace.

It is a tradition that completely negates the entire point.

Jesus WAS inclusive, and he was inclusive particularly for those that did not agree with the cultural and religious rulings of the day. These were the people he embraced.

Your version, is quite the opposite. It negates anyone that does not agree…with the religious rulers of the day.

I think, you miss the point entirely.
 
Numinous said:
No!
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Would buddhaism exist if the first buddha did not realize he had been re-incarnated.

I think…you must say No.

Meaning, you believe in reincarnation. See how that works? A religion could not POSSIBLY evolve, if it wasn’t true could it?

People…surely would never be that guilable…especially if the belief system promised them an eternal life. 🙂
 
It’s not about inclusion or whatever. WTF? I’m not even going to address that since it is irrelevant to whether the Last Supper was the Eucharist.

The Eucharist is the Body and Blood of Christ. That’s it. “This is my body…” etc etc.

Maybe PEOPLE do not reflect Christ, but the Eucharist does. The Last Supper was the First Eucharist.
 
Numinous said:
It’s not about inclusion or whatever. WTF? I’m not even going to address that since it is irrelevant to whether the Last Supper was the Eucharist.

The Eucharist is the Body and Blood of Christ. That’s it. “This is my body…” etc etc.

Maybe PEOPLE do not reflect Christ, but the Eucharist does. The Last Supper was the First Eucharist.
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Yes, you have been taught much I see. That last supper did not involve some “tradition” that was required to feel closer to God. It did not involve “infusing” people with a woe-begone spirit.

The reason it was meaningful and was written about(unlike much of Jesus’s life), is because it embodied everyone in Gods love. It was inclusive.

Jesus tried to include all. You exclude everyone that disagrees with you.

I think, you miss the entire point of what he was saying to you 🙂 Quite frankly, I think the new pharasies, usually do. You are the new law makers. The rulers. The ones with Gods truth.

Jesus rejected this for a reason.
 
Who is “you”? Are you addressing me specifically with a judgmental attitude? If so, then I’ve got a pot for you to talk to. Or a kettle – they’re both black.
 
Numinous said:
Who is “you”?.
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Well I was responding to your post, so …um…yes, it would be you I was addressing. 🙂 I do use “you” in a non-personal way sometimes so the “you” was mostly directed at people who say the same things you do. Hopefully that does clarify things.

I think the point encompasses more humans than just you however. 🙂

Interesting response.
 
It’s easier than engaging in endless gainsaying with a random dude (chick?) on the Internet.
 
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