What Is The Most [traditional] Catholic Place In The Usa?

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Having grown up in a small town in Northern NJ, I would say that NNJ still has a traditional catholic culture. At least a remnant of one. Parishes where there are still devotions, churches kept open during the day for visitation etc. Also strong church groups such as the KofC, rosery alter groups etc. It is one of the few places in the US where you still find processions throught the street and the like. And some of the best food in the country!!🙂 Boy I wish I still lived there!
 
Unfortunately, I was born an American, and I have no real way of [legally] working in another country, otherwise I WOULD leave!
Sure you can. It’s done all the time. You just have to apply.
This country, the United States of America, has done all it can, and will continue to do all it can, to destroy the Faith among it’s citizens.

If you support the American government and it’s culture, then you oppose the Church. It’s that simple.
Ridiculous overstatement. We are a pluralistic nation, not a monolithic one. Our government is secular because our founders wanted religious freedom. The faithfulness of our country has to do with the individuals, not the government. Live your faith. Go out and evangelize. Don’t bemoan the freedoms that you have here.

If you feel more comfortable in a Tejano neighborhood in the US, then move to one…it’s a free country. 🙂
 
Unfortunately, I was born an American, and I have no real way of [legally] working in another country, otherwise I WOULD leave!

This country, the United States of America, has done all it can, and will continue to do all it can, to destroy the Faith among it’s citizens.

If you support the American government and it’s culture, then you oppose the Church. It’s that simple.
Where would you go to find some Catholic Shangri-La?

I’m currently living overseas in Germany and prior to that lived in Italy. Europe, while it has many beautiful churches and vestiges of a prior Catholic faith, is spiritually dead. In Italy, my priest was ancient, the altar “boy” was ancient, and all of the nuns were doddery old women. There were virtually no children at Mass.

Here in Germany the local church down the street from me doesn’t even have regularly scheduled masses. We have one priest that rotates between five different churches. At age 42, I am among the youngest in the congregation. France is just as bad.

The U.S. is actually healthy compared to Europe!
 
Our government is secular because our founders wanted religious freedom.
Well, it’s more accurate to say they wanted to be free FROM religion.

You do realize, do you not, that the “founders” were all anti-Catholic Freemasons?

America was founded on the very principle of destroying the Catholic Church. One can not be proud of the US Constitution and government, and be a devout Catholic, the two are opposed to one another.
 
I had a Catholic priest tell me that Oldenburg Indiana was the Catholic Mayberry.
 
And Europe is healthy compared to Saudi Arabia.

What’s your point?
You said you’d leave America if you could, and the only way to avoid being secularized is to leave the U.S. (not your exact words, I know, but close).

I’m saying that there is no place in the Western world or “traditionally Catholic” countries that isn’t secularized, and the U.S. is actually less secularized and much healthier spiritually than many other places.
 
Well, it’s more accurate to say they wanted to be free FROM religion.

You do realize, do you not, that the “founders” were all anti-Catholic Freemasons?

America was founded on the very principle of destroying the Catholic Church. One can not be proud of the US Constitution and government, and be a devout Catholic, the two are opposed to one another.
You are absolutely, 100% in error. The founding fathers were rebelling against England, not the Catholic Church. They did not want an official church for the government. Certainly, the number of Catholic founding fathers was quite small (3), but so were a lot of other denominations. The largest number were Anglican.

There have been anti-Catholic movements in this country, but they have been crushed because of our shared belief in freedom of religion. There is a small minority (athiests) who would like freedom from religion, but it is not the basis of our government or our country.

Anyway, as a Catholic, you shouldn’t be looking for the perfect Catholic location here on earth. We are “in this world, but not of this world.” That is true regardless of what country you live in.

I am really serious about the offer to buy you a one-way ticket…I won’t even ask anyone else to kick in money. You show me your approved application for a work visa and then PM me, and I will gladly buy you a ticket.
 
You said you’d leave America if you could, and the only way to avoid being secularized is to leave the U.S. (not your exact words, I know, but close).

I’m saying that there is no place in the Western world or “traditionally Catholic” countries that isn’t secularized, and the U.S. is actually less secularized and much healthier spiritually than many other places.
There’s more to the world than this “Western world”…

Anyway, the question: is there any region in the United States that holds their Catholic Faith to be more important than the Masonic value of “liberty”?
 
A lot of good things are coming out of Ohio it seems like the companys, I would say read up on the bishops but the best place is EWTN so I wonder how Alabama is or Georgia? Isn’t that where they are ? I hope to take a bus trip sometime. Dessert
 
…the best place is EWTN so I wonder how Alabama is or Georgia? Isn’t that where they are ? I hope to take a bus trip sometime. Dessert
They are based in Alabama, around the city of Birmingham.

The region is about as Catholic as Afghanistan. No real Catholic culture, and your kids will end up as wacky as John Hagee and Jack Chick.

EWTN is based around Birmingham because there’s an old monasteryaround Cullman, Alabama (just north of Birmingham) - which was settled by Catholic German families.

It’s not really a Catholic place anymore. There’s not even a Catholic school in Cullman anymore.
 
You’re the typical American.
Here’s a letter from another “typical American”…

oll.libertyfund.org/Texts/LFBooks/Washington0268/Collection/0026_Bk.html#hd_lf026.head.232
As mankind become more liberal they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protection of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations in examples of justice and liberality. And I presume that your fellow-citizens will not forget the patriotic part which you took in the accomplishment of their Revolution, and the establishment of their government; or the important assistance which they received from a nation in which the Roman Catholic faith is professed.

I thank you, gentlemen, for your kind concern for me. While my life and my health shall continue, in whatever situation I may be, it shall be my constant endeavour to justify the favourable sentiments which you are pleased to express of my conduct. And may the members of your society in America, animated alone by the pure spirit of Christianity, and still conducting themselves as the faithful subjects of our free government, enjoy every temporal and spiritual felicity.

G. Washington
 
Anyway, the question: is there any region in the United States that holds their Catholic Faith to be more important than the Masonic value of “liberty”?
Try St. Mary’s, Kansas. You’d probably be happy there.
 
For example, Germany has Bavaria and France has Burgundy, what does the United States have as being a “hotspot” of [traditional] Catholicism?

That is, the most [traditional] Catholic place outside of the American Southwest (and south Florida also, I suppose).

I guess I should rephrase the question to: What place is the most [traditional], non-Hispanic, place in America?

*note that this isn’t any sort of criticism against Hispanics, but a compliment!
The Vatican embassy in Washington?
 
You’re obviously not much of a historian…or a faithful Catholic…You’re the typical American.
BTW…question my understanding of history if you will, but I don’t think it is charitable of you to question my faithfulness as a Catholic.
 
You’re the typical American.
And another “typical American”…the first Archbishop:
cyberfaith.com/examining/roots11.html
It is a tribute to Carroll’s statesmanship that, as American Protestants first rejoiced at the impending destruction of the papacy by Napoleon, and later mourned the pope’s restoration by the British, little of their hostility was carried over to American Catholics. Somehow, American Catholics were perceived by other Americans as different from European Catholics: true democrats and loyal Americans. Anti-Catholic prejudice and discrimination were still around, but their tone had been softened and their strength was eroding. It is a shame that the new waves of Catholic immigrants who were about to descend upon the nation in the post-war period would frighten Protestant Americans all over again into a renewal of their anti-Catholic hatreds.
http://www.cyberfaith.com/examining/images/CFp_ER_CR11_carroll.jpg
Archbishop John Carroll
priest and patriot

Advanced in years and wearied by nearly four decades of American church leadership, Carroll survived the end of the War of 1812 by only a few months. He had begun his public service with a diplomatic mission to Canada during the revolution, and had brought his service to a close with the diplomatic task of leading his church through a controversial war. Many of his dreams remained unrealized, but his accomplishments were vast and beyond question:

1.** He had welcomed the constitutional separation of church and state, and it had benefited his people immensely.**
 
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