What Is The Most [traditional] Catholic Place In The Usa?

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Jean_Marie said:
Well, I’ve been doing some thinking and some research, and I’ve “figured it out”.

Here in America and [most of] Europe, the dominant culture is secular, it has been formed by the state, and the state has abandoned it’s Catholic roots (if it had any to begin with, which the United States never did).

SO, in America, the only true Catholic Culture we have is among the Tejano population of south Texas.

If you’re not Tejano, you have no real “Catholic Culture” in America anymore. The “Catholic ghettos” have been dismantled, Americans have all become “homogenized”, and they are all pretty much mindless robots celebrating the various state-sponsored holidays, such as Labor Day, Memorial Day, 4th of July, Thanksgiving, etc.

The only way to avoid becoming “secularized” in America is to avoid America!
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No offense but I was about to recommend Philippines if it becomes 51st.
 
Jean_Marie said:
Well, it’s more accurate to say they wanted to be free FROM religion.

You do realize, do you not, that the “founders” were all anti-Catholic Freemasons?

** America was founded on the very principle of destroying the Catholic Church. One can not be proud of the US Constitution and government, and be a devout Catholic, the two are opposed to one another.**
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There is absolutely no way you can back this statement up with facts.

If you feel this strongly about it - you would find any means to get out of this country.
 
Who hijacked the thread? I think the OP just wanted to know what the most traditionally Catholic area of the country is, or which part of the country has the most “Catholic culture.”

In response to this, I would say that your best bets for finding a Catholic culture in the U.S. would be south Louisiana/Cajun country.

If you’re looking for a hotbed of traditionalists, I would say the St. Louis, MO area and the Kansas City, MO area. These places seem to have a lot of traditional Masses both indults and SSPX. Kansas City is home to Angelus Press and boasts the SSPX’s biggest church in the U.S., St. Vincent de Paul.

The Cincinnati area also seems to be home to a lot of trads. 👍
 
Unfinished said:
Pittsburg, PA. The Latin Mass society seems pretty strong up there.

Or down in Dallas, TX. The university down there has a strong Catholic subculture on campus, an FSSP offers Mass and public LOTH. I suppose if you live close to the campus you could get involved easy enough.

Take that with a grain of salt, I only know people from these areas and have no experienced it myself. But it seems to be a solid “hub” of traditionalism.
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Really? I have been to Dallas and I wouldn’t have guessed it’s a hotbed of traditional Catholicism, or any kind of Catholicism, except perhaps among the Latino population, LOL.
Although the church I attended Mass at there (this was when I still attended NO Masses) had altar GIRLS wearing cassocks and surplices :eek: .

BTW,what university are you referring to? I think there’s a “University of Dallas” that has ties either to Opus Dei or the Legionaries (yikes!) but it’s rather small.
 
Jean_Marie said:
…America was founded on the very principle of destroying the Catholic Church. One can not be proud of the US Constitution and government, and be a devout Catholic, the two are opposed to one another.
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Are you even vaguely aware that in many parts of the world even identifying yourself as a Christian is a death-defying act or that attending mass or merely possessing a bible is a serious criminal offense?!? I think you need to check your facts and recalibrate your thinking. You may find plenty wrong with secular culture, but the U.S. Constitution is nothing short of a masterwork which daily protects your rights to live, speak, worship, study and evangelize as a Catholic–just as it does the rights of Jews, Muslims, Hindus, B’hais, Buddists, Mormons, etc., all of whom have even less in common with the religious practices followed by the framers of the Constitution than Catholics. As an attorney who has studied the Constitution and a Catholic–I believe the men who drafted this amazing document were inspired and that the principles it embodies have and will continue to protect our freedoms for many generations.

As for the original question…we loved our experiences in Chicago–what a fabulous Catholic community and tradition there is there. Avoid the west coast…
 
Island_Oak said:
Are you even vaguely aware that in many parts of the world even identifying yourself as a Christian is a death-defying act or that attending mass or merely possessing a bible is a serious criminal offense?!? I think you need to check your facts and recalibrate your thinking. You may find plenty wrong with secular culture, but the U.S. Constitution is nothing short of a masterwork which daily protects your rights to live, speak, worship, study and evangelize as a Catholic–just as it does the rights of Jews, Muslims, Hindus, B’hais, Buddists, Mormons, etc., all of whom have even less in common with the religious practices followed by the framers of the Constitution than Catholics. As an attorney who has studied the Constitution and a Catholic–I believe the men who drafted this amazing document were inspired and that the principles it embodies have and will continue to protect our freedoms for many generations.

As for the original question…we loved our experiences in Chicago–what a fabulous Catholic community and tradition there is there. Avoid the west coast…
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In terms of PROTECTING freedom of all religions, I think you’re right. But in terms of promoting relativism and secular thinking, US is the place for Catholic doctrine to die of internal decay.
 
rlg94086 said:
If you want the world to be more Catholic, then live your faith and evangelize.
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Amen.

The US does would not likely have a hotbed of Catholic culture because the US is a predominanly Protestant country. Catholic culture (such as closing stores on Good Friday) would originate in countries where everyone (or virtually everyone) was Catholic.

You already mentioned Bavaria and Burgundy. I would also add to the list some Latin American countries, as well as areas of Africa. Christianity (and Catholicism) is growning more rapidly in Africa than in any other part of the world.

The reality is, if Catholics want a Catholic culture in the US, we’re going to have to invent it from the ground up. The question is, are we up for the challenge?
 
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