What must one believe to be Catholic?

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TheRaiders said:
We don’t see any evidence of lone wolf’s in the Bible having authority, it always comes from Jesus AND the apostles.
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Are you sure there were no ‘lone wolves’? What about this quote, from Luke, chapter 9:
Luke 9:49-50:
“Master,” said John, “we saw a man driving out demons in your name and we tried to stop him, because he is not one of us.”
“Do not stop him,” Jesus said, “for whoever is not against you is for you.”
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Mommyof02green said:
Sorry type-o :o

I meant “inerrant” word of God;
In other words Scripture does NOT have errors in it and it is the word of God.

Apparently “errant” is a real word so spell check didn’t catch my mistake… I didn’t catch my mistake because I just knew what I meant.

Sorry for the confusion
God Bless
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I figured Mommyof, just checking to be sure.
Bless you.
 
Della said:
He meant “inerrant.” “Errant” was just a typo, no doubt.
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Yep I, meant inerrant, which I already explained in the other post.
Della said:
As for the death penalty, though, it is not the teaching of the Catholic Church that it can never be employed/that is it intrinsically evil, as are abortion and contraception.
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Your right abortion is intrinsically evil and should never be employed. However, like with “many” things there are exceptions to the rules. The only “real-possible” exception would be cases such as an Ectopic pregnancy. See: forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=55211&highlight=tubal+pregnancy or ewtn.com/vexperts/showresult.asp?RecNum=485636&Forums=0&Experts=0&Days=2006&Author=&Keyword=ectopic&pgnu=1&groupnum=0&record_bookmark=2&ORDER_BY_TXT=ORDER+BY+ReplyDate+DESC&start_at=
Della said:
The teaching is that it {death penalty} shouldn’t be employed if society can be made safe without recourse to it. And, that is a matter for governments to decide, since the authority to use it lies with them, not the Church.
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You right, if there is a way to keep people safe, such as keeping people behind bars for life, then the death penalty should NOT be used. You’re right governments are the one that can decided, however like in cases of abortion, members of the church have spoken out re: the death penalty. A google search on “Saddam” and “Vatican” will show that.

I just simplified the listed by saying No death penalty. This is because today, in my opinion, 99% of the people can be safely retained behind walls. Therefore 99% of the time there is NO need for the death penalty.

**If the OP really wants to know Catholic teaching, then I’m sure the OP will research it. **

From what I understand the OP’s point was to get a basic list so they could look into for their own study, I was just trying to give the OP some starter points. It was not meant to be the list to end all things. It was meant to help the OP to get started in their quest to learn about Catholicism.

My point was for them to take simple things such as “No Death Penalty” and learn things like Why? In all Cases? What if……?
 
Ahimsa said:
Are you sure there were no ‘lone wolves’? What about this quote, from Luke, chapter 9:
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Good point. Passages such as that one maybe are put there to humble those of us who try to limit God’s freedom to use his power among whomever He pleases. I can fall into that sometimes. But I didn’t deny that Protestants can drive out demons, or do a great many things in Jesus’ name, only that they (and I think you know this from the context of what I was saying) should not start their own churches. If they do, they ARE against them, the Apostles.
Paul speaks of wolves in Acts 20:29: “I know that when I am gone, savage wolves will come among you who will not spare the flock. From your number (Christians), men will present themselves distorting the truth and leading astray any who follow them.”
To the OP: In order to ensure you are not being a ‘savage wolf’ or a ‘lone wolf’ or, I think in your case, a ‘lone sheep’ who was taken from the Lord’s flock by no fault of your own, just become Catholic. In RCIA (Catholic training) class you will hopefully learn much better than we could teach you on here, and you will be with other adults with questions as well. From there you can just keep it simple. Go to Church, listen to the Holy Spirit, read the Bible, join a Catholic club if you want (St. Vincent de Paul, Legion of Mary, Opus Dei, etc.). Over time, like all of us, the many teachings of the Church become clearer. You don’t need to know them all at once, but you should never hesitate to look to the Church for answers. The more people we have struggling to understand and trying to live a Catholic life, the more the answers are revealed in our very successes and mistakes, and the questions of what we need to believe and why cease to be stumbling blocks for us. They become the carrots in front of our noses (if you like carrots) that Jesus allows us to gobble up if we only would walk a mile with Him.
Patrick
 
Verbum said:
Hi GraceLife,

What do you think of the Act of Faith?

Verbum
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Hi Verbum,

By God’s grace I believe. I’m coming home!

ACT OF FAITH

O MY GOD, I firmly believe that Thou art one God in Three Divine Persons, Father, Son and Holy Ghost. I believe that Thy Divine Son became Man, and died for our sins, and that He will come to judge the living and the dead. I believe these and all the truths which the Holy Catholic Church teaches, because Thou hast revealed them, Who canst neither deceive nor be deceived.

Gracelife
 
gracelife said:
Hi Verbum,

By God’s grace I believe. I’m coming home!

ACT OF FAITH

O MY GOD, I firmly believe that Thou art one God in Three Divine Persons, Father, Son and Holy Ghost. I believe that Thy Divine Son became Man, and died for our sins, and that He will come to judge the living and the dead. I believe these and all the truths which the Holy Catholic Church teaches, because Thou hast revealed them, Who canst neither deceive nor be deceived.

Gracelife
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I wish you all the best! God Bless
 
Hi GraceLife,

Thanks for your answer. Great news!

Blessed are you, Lord God:
Blessed are you for ever.
Holy is your name:
Blessed are you for ever.
Great is your mercy for your people:
Blessed are you for ever.

Amen!

Father, Son, and Holy Spirit,
We praise you and give you glory:
We bless you for calling us to be your holy people.

Remain in our hearts,
And guide us in our love and service.
Help us to let our light shine before others
And lead them to the way of faith.

Holy Trinity of love,
We praise you now and for ever.

Amen!
 
As a seeking Christian I’ve asked this question many times. The sense I have gotten from all my Catholic friends and brothers and sisters is that one really needs to accept by faith that the Church that operates today is indeed what it claims to be, Christ’s repository of God’s truths on earth. Until I am able to come to have that faith in what the Church claims for itself I cannot be Catholic even though I believe every point of the Nicene Creed. Until then, the focus of my faith is Jesus Christ. I would love to be Catholic. It would simplify things so greatly, but unless I can believe that the Church is all it says it is it would not be appropriate to pretend to be a part of the things I cannot believe in or about which I don’t have faith that the Church teachings are right.
 
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