What mysteries of the Rosary were said on Thursday before the Luminous mysteries were added?

[AlbertDerGrosse]

That’s interesting. It would seem to me that the Glorious Mysteries have a stronger Marian character than the Joyful, obviously due to the last two mysteries. The Joyful Mysteries are 100% Christological.

 

[Limoncello4021]

Possibly. I learned the Rosary at home from my parents. I now join it occasionally when it is said by a group at Church and they also say the Joyful mysteries on Saturday. Perhaps there are local variations.

 

[AlbertDerGrosse]

Perhaps there are local variations.

Oh, no doubt! There are even variations on how to begin the Rosary. I originally learned from Dominicans so I pray it like them (sans Luminous mysteries): 1. Sign of the Cross, 2. Hail Mary, 3. Oh God come to my assistance…, 4. Glory Be, then right on with the first mystery (no Apostle’s Creed).

 

[Limoncello4021]

In fact, I’m saying the Joyful mysteries on Wednesdays in honor of the most pure heart of St. Joseph. I’m interested in the apparitions to Sr. Mildred Neuzil, the mystic from Ohio, where St. Joseph asked for this. In light of the current Church scandals and the fact that Joseph is the patron of the Universal Church it is a devotion that appeals to me.

 

[brian_custer]

NOW i remember the pre-luminous mystery days!

you are correct, sir…

 

[Onthisrock84]

Yes but as Catholics we are not required to believe in private revelation. I’m not saying I don’t. Fatima, Lourdes, Guadalupe, and Zeitoun are enough to convince anyone. Though the latter isn’t recognized officially by the Catholic Church because it occured over a Coptic Church. However I don’t think the Church has ever had an issue with Catholics believing in it.

 

[LilyM]

See it’s just things I see the church does with no explanation. What is the purpose of the Luminous Mysteries? Did Mary instruct anyone to use these? As far as I’m concerned she instructed Saint Dominic 15 decades. And this has worked fine. Why 20?
Another thing I notice churches adding to long established traditions is an extra 15th station of the cross, the resurrection. Now this is nice and all but the point of stations of the cross is to ponder Christ’s passion. We all know the resurrection is the end to the passion however why does everyone need this uplifting? I feel like this added station nearly ruins the entire point of doing them to begin with.

JP2 did a decent amount of explaining when he introduced the Luminous Mysteries. Just because you might not be aware of or agree with the explanation doesn’t mean he didn’t make the effort.

Imagine if every change to the Rosary were met with this amount of belly aching! No records of anyone being up in arms when the swap from 150 Our Fathers to 150 Hail Marys was made. Nor when the second half (“Holy Mary…”) was added to the Hail Mary itself. Nor when the Apostles Creed or.the Hail Holy Queen were added. Let alone the Fatima Prayer.

 

[otjm]

This is not a matter of Faith - as in doctrine; it is a private devotion.

Even the Dominicans do not propose that Mary gave the rosary to St. Dominic, and it does not follow history. And since Mary did not =give him the rosary, it follows that she did not and does not have a problem with the Luminous Mysteries.

And yes, the 3rd mystery actually is a mystery: Jesus repeatedly proclaimed the kingdom:

“Repent, for the kingdom of God is at hand.”
“My kingdom is not of this world.”
“Unless a man be born again of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of heaven.”
“Whoever does not accept the kingdom of God as a little child will not enter into it.”
“I have come to call sinners, not the just.”
“Love your enemies, pray for those who persecute you.”
“Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.”
“Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for justice, for they shall be satisfied.”
“Blessed are they who suffer persecution for justice’ sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.”
"You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church… I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven.

The fact that there was not one single isolated incident is not dispositive.

And as you note further, it is a private devotion, one in which Mary always points to her and our Savior so it is baffling that anyone would have a problem with mysteries which come from the time between his youth and his trial and death.

 

[otjm]

Ibterestubg. Since the rosary, according to history started by the laity saying 150 pater nosters, as they were illiterate and could not read the psalms, and eventually morphed into the rosary as we generally know it now; the"O God, com to my assistance is the beginning of the LOTH. Sort of a circle…

 

[otjm]

Some peole don’t have enough to keep them busy…

 

[Brendan_64]

Perhaps there are local variations.

There is the 6 decade ‘Brigittine Rosary’ which Our Lady of Lourdes is depicted holding.

 

[Aulef]

Answer to OP: Joyful.

Extra

The happenings that became the luminous misteries are undoubtedly important to meditate on. But I think it should be done some other time than praying the rosary.

And why focus on the traditional 3 sets of misteries when praying the rosary? Because it is simbolic and alludes to:

150 psalms of the breviary
150 fish caught by St. Peter
The Holy Trinity (3 sets of misteries)
A parallel with creation (2 times a week we pray 3 sets of misteries to remind that creation happened in 2 acts of 3 days each)
The battle against a heresy called catharism (something that is widespread nowdays)

 

[Rob2]

I don’t like the additional mysteries and believe it should be 15 decades as was always the case as it symbolizes 150 Psalms etc.
Which mysteries traditionally were said on Thursday?

@Onthisrock84 , you appear to be so knowledgeable about the Rosary that I am puzzled as to why you don’t know the answer to your own question .

But as Pope Paul VI said in his apostolic exhortation Marialis Cultus " The Rosary is an excellent prayer, but the faithful should feel serenely free in its regard. "

 

[Mboo]

I speak of mysteries related to Jesus in the creed:
the creed mentions: its incarnation, its passion, and its glorification (which corresponds to the joyful, painful and glorious mysteries).
in the development of its three mysteries the rosary details each of them