What one author says about the Muslim "religion"

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Thanks. I read a lot and watch a lot of documentaries. There are a lot of documentaries these days about the Sudanese situation because of the Darfur crisis. In fact, EWTN just did an episode of “Sunday Night Live” with Fr. Groeschel last Sunday featuring Fr. Herald Brock of CFR Sudan Mission. It was pretty interesting. Here is the blog about that, written by Fr. Brock himself.
thanks…

Every time i turn around i get reminded of that edifying thing so many have, that i don’t have in my life… namely EWTN…

i don’t even have TV… dont have that box thing… hate TV but not EWTN so uh… once again, maybe god is speaking to me through you…

🙂
 
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Ann Coulter on 911:

"In a sane world, Lehman’s statement "… the policy today (is) to fine airlines if they have more than two young Arab males in secondary questioning (at airports) because it’s discriminatory] would have made headlines across the country the next day. But not one newspaper, magazine, or TV show has mentined that it is official govenrent policy to prohibit searching more than two Arabs per flight.

… the FBI wasn’t even told [the 911 perpetrators] were in the country until weeks before the … attack - because of Justice Department guidelines put into place in 1995… which imposed a “draconian” wall between counterintelligence and criminal investigations.

What Ashcroft said next was breathtaking. Prohibited from mounting a serious search for [the 911 perpetrators] an irritated FBI investigator wrote to FBI headquarters, warning that ***someone would die because of these policies ***- “since the biggest threat to us, OBL [bin Laden] is getting the most protection.”
 
thanks…

Every time i turn around i get reminded of that edifying thing so many have, that i don’t have in my life… namely EWTN…

i don’t even have TV… dont have that box thing… hate TV but not EWTN so uh… once again, maybe god is speaking to me through you…

🙂
Gosh…don’t quite know what to say to that last bit…thanks! I hear ya on EWTN. I just moved to California from Oregon. Couldn’t ever get EWTN in Oregon for some reason (not offered as part of cable package), so I’m really enjoying it here while it lasts. It was already here when I got here…I doubt I’ll be able to afford it after I move again for grad school.

Anyway, if you happen to have an ipod, you can download EWTN shows to listen to on it via this link.
 

Couldn’t ever get EWTN in Oregon for some reason (not offered as part of cable package), so I’m really enjoying it here while it lasts…
There is no excuse for this because EWTN provides its programming for free.
 
Gosh…don’t quite know what to say to that last bit…thanks! I hear ya on EWTN. I just moved to California from Oregon. Couldn’t ever get EWTN in Oregon for some reason (not offered as part of cable package), so I’m really enjoying it here while it lasts. It was already here when I got here…I doubt I’ll be able to afford it after I move again for grad school.

Anyway, if you happen to have an ipod, you can download EWTN shows to listen to on it via this link.
i know some things about Oregon…

the reason you didn’t get EWTN is because the anti-Christ lives there…

OK, so maybe i am exaggerating… a little…

but uh… that is the " most un-Churched state in the union."… (a fact, not opinion)…

so… I’m kinda not exaggerating much…
 
i know some things about Oregon…

the reason you didn’t get EWTN is because the anti-Christ lives there…

OK, so maybe i am exaggerating… a little…

but uh… that is the " most un-Churched state in the union."… (a fact, not opinion)…

so… I’m kinda not exaggerating much…
:rotfl:
 
if you knew what i knew…

you wouldn’t be laughing…

sad to say, now i am not joking…

😦
As a person who currently resides in the People’s Republic of Oregon, I can confirm this. But let me back this up with a little bit of background on me.

I am a native of the US midwest, but have always loved travel and the outdoors. I was also an atheist living in the Bible Belt. Yuck! When I visited Oregon (and Washington state) for the first, I was quite impressed that they had fairly effectively suppressed nearly all things Christian from the public eye. They had even enacted zoning laws in some areas that said a Church is a misuse of property which is zoned residential or residential/light commercial! Mosques and synogogues regularly got exemptions, but it is very difficult for a Christian Church to get one, even if all they wanted to do was expand their parking lot.

Being an atheist in 1991, I felt Oregon to be very welcoming so I moved here. Heck, they practicaly have a sign at the border declaring ahteism to be the official religion and that they tolerate any religion EXCEPT any form of Christianity.

Now that I am Catholic, I find the things that I once appreciated very troubling.

I would like to update Distracted’s comment aobut OIregon being the most “unchurched” state. We lost that distinction earlier this year. It is now Vermont.

oregonfaithreport.com/2009/05/oregon-unseated-as-the-most-%E2%80%9Cunchurced%E2%80%9D-state/

I have not read much of this thread, but I would also like to comment on the opening post. Mark Steyn, the author of America Alone is a Canadian and, because of some of the things he said in his excellent book, is currently being persecuted by Canada’s infamous Human Rights Commission and has spend tens of thousands of dollars on legal fees just trying to defend himself. Those who accused him are given free legal representation and have zero expenses, even if the case were eventually thrown out.
 
Oregon did seem quite unchurched to me when I was there, but I always figured this was because I was in Eugene, which is something of a hippie mecca. Lots of Baha’i, Buddhists, Muslims, and very obscure Protestant sects, not much in the way of Catholics or Orthodox. I did also spend time (not enough!) at Mt. Angel, though, which was a different story. Beautiful place, with a wonderful monastery (and a downright incredibly library!), beautiful churches, and lots and lots of Catholics. Highly recommended, if you happen to be passing through…very different than Portland/Eugene/Salem (can’t talk about elsewhere…I didn’t get out to eastern Oregon because everyone told me there’s nothing out there).
 
God is not only angry in the OT…
Islam is just another of the religions that came after that of Christ…

and do not adhere to Crhistian principles… There are SO many of those in the world… :rolleyes:

Those who reject Jesus and His ways end up in Hell…

. whether you believe your God (Mohammed, etc… ) is better than Him or not…

i can believe in Santa Claus coming to visit me at Christmas… doesn’t mean he exists much less that he is going to save me from Hell…

better to focus on a world we don’t know anything about… because we ALL have to die some day… The young think they will never grow old… but they grow old… The middle aged don’t necessarily think about dying all the time… yet thye die…

does something come after that??? If you tend to think not… I say… Why take a chance…
I can tell from your post that you know little of Islam. In Islam, we do believe in Jesus, and no Muhammad is not our God. We say it all the time. “There is no deity worthy of worshop beside Allah, and Muhammad is his messenger”

You contradict yourself, by saying you believe in Santa Claus’ existence and that he doesnt exist. Islam tells us to always stay steadfast on our religion because we never know when death will come.

“kulu nafsin thaikatul maut…” “Every soul will taste death…” Quran 3:184
 
Ok…so Koran has those wisdom in it, but at the same time has the other aggresive, merciless and violant verses as well towards the same matter. So…it seems that your Allah is a confused god who doesn’t know the principle of “consistency”. A god who doesn’t know that people no matter what will have their own will. Only in one book of teachings and in 23 years of Muhammad prophethood, ur god has seem to be more like a person facing dillemas, nice and meek sometimes when in the good mood or in a good acceptance, violant and merciless other time in a bad mood. Ur God is a projection of human being swaying from one mood to another, or from the feeling of grandeur
Can you please give me these verses please, I’m interested, and just a reminder, please dont take it out of context.
 
Can you please give me these verses please, I’m interested, and just a reminder, please dont take it out of context.
Read urself here presented along in this whole thread. Do I have to be at ur service?
What context? Ur muslim brothers have given the necessary evidence and proof. I live in Indonesia, we have witnessed so many violence as in bombs done by those muslims. And eventhough muslims with their lips denying or refusing the terror, they will still feel happy when something bad happen to the west or to other people with different religion.
And u know what? T shirts with the picture of Osama B Ldn are solds here, cheerished as hero???!
 
Can you please give me these verses please, I’m interested, and just a reminder, please dont take it out of context.
There is no larger context of morality against which Koranic advocations to violence are judged. The only thing that matters is how such acts impact or benefit Islam. If it advances Islam, it is good; if not, it is bad [or neutral at best].
 
There is no excuse for this because EWTN provides its programming for free.
but again, Anti-Christ lives in Oregon… (I would put that laughing icon here but um… it’s kinda not all that funny… ) 🤷
 
Read urself here presented along in this whole thread. Do I have to be at ur service?
What context? Ur muslim brothers have given the necessary evidence and proof.
If you apply this reasoning to Christianity, then we’re in very bad shape. Christians have over the centuries given plenty of “evidence and proof” that Christianity is an evil, violent religion.

Both Christianity and Islam have elements that can be and have been used to justify some pretty vicious behavior. That doesn’t mean that they are identical in this respect–they are very different in many ways and one can always argue that one’s “own” religion is better than the other. But you can’t just point to bad behavior by Muslims and use that to generalize about the religion.

Edwin
 
As a person who currently resides in the People’s Republic of Oregon, I can confirm this. But let me back this up with a little bit of background on me.

I am a native of the US midwest, but have always loved travel and the outdoors. I was also an atheist living in the Bible Belt. Yuck! When I visited Oregon (and Washington state) for the first, I was quite impressed that they had fairly effectively suppressed nearly all things Christian from the public eye. They had even enacted zoning laws in some areas that said a Church is a misuse of property which is zoned residential or residential/light commercial! Mosques and synogogues regularly got exemptions, but it is very difficult for a Christian Church to get one, even if all they wanted to do was expand their parking lot.

Being an atheist in 1991, I felt Oregon to be very welcoming so I moved here. Heck, they practicaly have a sign at the border declaring ahteism to be the official religion and that they tolerate any religion EXCEPT any form of Christianity.

Now that I am Catholic, I find the things that I once appreciated very troubling.

I would like to update Distracted’s comment aobut OIregon being the most “unchurched” state. We lost that distinction earlier this year. It is now Vermont.

oregonfaithreport.com/2009/05/oregon-unseated-as-the-most-%E2%80%9Cunchurced%E2%80%9D-state/

I have not read much of this thread, but I would also like to comment on the opening post. Mark Steyn, the author of America Alone is a Canadian and, because of some of the things he said in his excellent book, is currently being persecuted by Canada’s infamous Human Rights Commission and has spend tens of thousands of dollars on legal fees just trying to defend himself. Those who accused him are given free legal representation and have zero expenses, even if the case were eventually thrown out.
thanks for this interesting confirmation of what i said…

i used to travel inter-state “a lot”… and believe this or not… every time i would cross the border into OR i would feel this… unkosher feeling… & depression would set in…

One time i was in OR getting ready to enter Portland… same thing…

not very scientific but then i actually heard someone else say the same thing!!!

weird…
 
There is no larger context of morality against which Koranic advocations to violence are judged.
That does not fit what I know about Islam. Do you have any evidence to support this sweeping claim?

Edwin
 
U can’t say that we have inconsistency of teaching in NT.
Sure he can. Lots of people do, including Christian scholars.
But if God was projected as God the jealous and high tempered in OT, u have to see the context of it, It was dedicated solely first to teach and chastise the Israelites, the one nation chosen in the old testament to be the example of other people, when most other nations were pagans , and when no other nations have ever had the concept of One True God, let alone the Law.
If these attributes are basically contrary to God’s character, how would revealing God to be other than He really is “teach” the Israelites anything? Wouldn’t it just confuse them? This line of apologetics does not work.
But the NT is emphasising the New Law which has already been roughly understood in the OT, the Law of Love.
Are they contrary to each other?

Edwin
 
makes you appreciate the Word of God:

Judge not, lest you be judged.

it’s one thing to comment on the wickedness of a person’s behavior… We cannot turn a blind eye to such things as abortion, etc…

but to say that someone is damned to Hell… is to think you are God…
How about 2 Peter 2? Doesn’t that passage declare that the “false teachers” in question are damned to hell?

Edwin
 
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