What wage is just?

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And all it costs is 50% of their income to taxes! And also don’t worry about defense spending just use that money for social programs and let the U.S pay for and protect them. I’m sure they are very grateful though for that 😐
 
A worker has to be paid according to the value of his work. For the past fity years the wages have been static, growing only with inflation. This means the rich are stealing the value of the laborers.
If the work is the same, then how would the value be changing over time?
If nothing else has changed, then the value of the work doesn’t. And a raise to match inflation is the only one warranted.

Again, I do not see a problem.
 
Most of the poor in the USA aren’t working for minimum wages. Most of the poor are not working at all.

Most minimum wage earners are teens and college students. Not heads of households.

Minimum wages do more harm than good.

If you want to talk about justice, start by eliminating the minimum wage altogether.
 
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The problem is everyone has a RIGHT to be rich. Egalitarianism only works one way. Everyone becomes equally poor. It never works in the opposite direction. There will always be the rich. The leftists just prefer that the rich are the bureaucrats stealing from them instead of the evil rich private business owners.
 
And all it costs is 50% of their income to taxes!
Most people pay 36%. Only the upper 5% of the earners pay 50%. Its the same as in the US, you also have a rich-tax for the uppermost 1% of earners that’s 50%.
 
Everyone has the right to the opportunity to become rich. Not the right to be rich.
 
If the work is the same, then how would the value be changing over time?
If nothing else has changed, then the value of the work doesn’t. And a raise to match inflation is the only one warranted.

Again, I do not see a problem.
You do realise a modern day worker produces the same amount of value as seven workers did a hundred years ago? Everything has changed. Workers, thanks to technology, produce more value, but they’re paid less for the work that they do. Meanwhile the owners skim off more and more, while doing less and less relatively.

This is injust, in as much as the workers aren’t being paid according to the value of their work. There is nothing to discuss on this, its been declared unjust by the previous popes. In almost as strong words of condemnation as the condemnation of Communism.

Such injustice will demand retribution, which may or may not come depending on God’s mercy.
 
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I’m not sure why you don’t understand my point but your last response was way off base.
 
Certainly:

“Remuneration for labour is to be such that man may be furnished the means to cultivate worthily his own material, social, cultural, and spiritual life and that of his dependents, in view of the function and productiveness of each one, the conditions of the factory or workshop, and the common good.”

From the Compendium of Social Doctrine of the Church, paragraph 302.

It is a grave sin, if you are an employer to not pay a just wage.
 
Everyone has the right to the opportunity to become rich. Not the right to be rich.
On the contrary, not all people have the opportunity to become rich. If this was the case you would see a high social mobility, and an even spread between rich and poor following a bell curve.

Whereas in reality we see a hump, those who are rich have an easier time becoming richer and staying rich than if you are poor.

Comparing the US to Denmark, again, you see a higher social mobility in Denmark because we give much higher opportunities for education to our young. So even if you start out poor you have a chance of getting a good job with enough earning power to invest your capital.
 
Not at all. Becoming rich is a right. If I do the things that help me to become rich without harming anyone else, I don’t need anyone’s permission to do so.

I think you’re confusing a right with an entitlement. Nobody is entitled to become rich. Everyone has the right to become rich.
 
Workers, thanks to technology, produce more value, but they’re paid less for the work that they do.
To be clear, if wages have kept up with inflation ( in this country I believed they have done, on average, about a one percentage higher), as you claimed earlier, this cannot be true.
 
To be clear, if wages have kept up with inflation ( in this country I believed they have done, on average, about a one percentage higher), as you claimed earlier, this cannot be true.
If I bake more cakes, but I’m paid the same amount of money, and the cakes are just as valuable. Then I’m paid less per cake. My work isn’t valued according to what it should. I will feel cheated out, as I see the bakery I work for skim off all the earnings and passing it on to the owner.
 
I said the right to BE rich not the right to BECOME rich. The former means you are made rich by entitlement from a governing power at the expense of whomever they stole the money from. The latter is what you are saying and I agree.
 
There’s also the sins that cry to Heaven for vengeance. They include oppression of the poor, especially widows and orphans, and defrauding the laborer of his\her wages.
 
Yes, when considered relative to production, but that was not what you said. In general, I agree with you, a greater share of productivity gains should go to the employees.
 
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“Remuneration for labour is to be such that man may be furnished the means to cultivate worthily his own material, social, cultural, and spiritual life and that of his dependents, in view of the function and productiveness of each one, the conditions of the factory or workshop, and the common good.”

From the Compendium of Social Doctrine of the Church, paragraph 302.

It is a grave sin, if you are an employer to not pay a just wage.
Thanks.
Just a quick reading here “in view of the function and productiveness of each one” tells me that the church expects the wage to coincide with the work itself.
 
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