What's preventing YOU from being a Catholic?

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To be fair, it’s not just all CAF, and it’s not just CAF. I confided in another Catholic about Church teaching on contraception, and she about bit my head off. It stung because I thought I could trust her to hear me out in an open and non-judgmental way. Now I direct most of my super serious questions to priests and deacons, who can be had to get a hold of . . .

I also love to read and welcome book recommendations. 😀
 
Well, it might be the Christopher Columbus kind of thing. . .you might wind up going so far ‘away from the Church’ over the years that you wind up in the end right AT the Church.

Kind of like “It always seems the darkest right before dawn”.
 
stpurl said:
Well, it might be the Christopher Columbus kind of thing. . .you might wind up going so far ‘away from the Church’ over the years that you wind up in the end right AT the Church.

Kind of like “It always seems the darkest right before dawn”.
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I love this answer.
 
I am perfectly content with my own Jewish faith, its beauty, its tradition, and its truth. However, I do respect the Catholic religion and mostly all religions, as well as and especially people who are Catholic, and I am happy to always learn more about Catholicism.
 
stpurl said:
Well, it might be the Christopher Columbus kind of thing. . .you might wind up going so far ‘away from the Church’ over the years that you wind up in the end right AT the Church.
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Maybe Magellan and the first circumnavigation is a better parallell? Columbus after all ended up somewhere else, believing he had made it to India.
 
Maybe and I really do like your post there.

My concern is just that saying “do research” will not always have the assumed results.

I have seen too many times on here that it is assumed “if you do not come to the same conclusion as the CC than you need to do more research”.

For some it works and they become Catholic and for others it doesn’t.

Like many of the the "truth police " on here, the reply would be that that is the truth (fullness of the truth etc… it has all been used before) whether you like it or not. But then the circle just starts again…

(Like a famous Catholic said before “the truth is the truth even if nobody believes it and a lie is a lie even if everyone believes it” (That is paraphrased from memory). That is a very strong saying but it still doesn’t tell me much about the ACTUAL truth)
 
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So what the bible teaches supported by secular history does not matter to you?

May GOD guide your path,
Patrick

Thanks for sharring
 
FiveLinden said:
In some ways I am a Catholic. Some of the values taught by the Church are, to my mind, right. But some are not. But at its most fundamental, I see no reason to ascribe God, or gods, to the creation of the town universe. It seems far more likely to me that we created gods.
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I’ve been sharing My Catholic Faith for nearly 30 years and have never come across this one before:smiley:

SO WHERE and HOW did “we come into existence?” AND WHY then would we “create gods?”

Patrick the OP
 
blackforest said:
I’m a reluctant Catholic.

My concerns are usually more cultural in nature. It’s the pray-pay-obey mentality that gets me. I don’t always feel free to have doubts, ask questions, or - horror of all horrors! - question teachings. Doing any one of those can all too often land you at the bottom of a CAF dogpile. Christ calls us to obedience; but living as a complete automaton can’t be the path to sainthood. Struggle is part of the journey.
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YOU CAN and MAY QUESTION them; you must not disobey them.

You’re encouraged to intelligently PROVE the only Faith God APPROVES.

So what exactly are your concerns?

Patrick the OP
 
MichaelP3 said:
History!

Newman had some opposite effect here!

Being deep in HISTORY I cannot submit to Catholicism.
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So Michael, WHAT PRECISELY is blocking you? History is on the side of Catholicism.

Patrick the OP
 
Lou2U said:
Do you believe in God or some kind of superior consciousness?
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Have you ever considered that every time YOU look into a mirror that your seeing a image of God?

Would YOU care to know How and WHY that is?

Patrick the OP
 
Shakuhachi said:
I am a lifelong Catholic but find my self in deep sympathy with Clarkgamble and Blackforest.

So much is too legalistic and while tradition can be wonderful it can also be a shackle.
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My friend, I’m a trained Catholic Apologetic s teacher. If you’s care to more precisely share your areas of concern; we can discuss them.

God Bless you,
Patrick the OP
 
PJM said:
Have you ever considered that every time YOU look into a mirror that your seeing a image of God?

Would YOU care to know How and WHY that is?
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I’m interested as to why you would say that.
 
meltzerboy2 said:
I am perfectly content with my own Jewish faith, its beauty, its tradition, and its truth. However, I do respect the Catholic religion and mostly all religions, as well as and especially people who are Catholic, and I am happy to always learn more about Catholicism.
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So MY FRIEND, we have talked several times over the years; what is it you’d like to discuss specifically?

I love the Jewish faith to; it is the seed ground of Catholicism.

Patrick the OP
 
Want honesty? Logic.

I’m not calling you stupid, i’m Saying this world, for me, is logically incompatible with an all-powerful and all-good God.

To me it’s like dragons. No one can say they can prove 100% they don’t exist, but you just don’t think about them and don’t take them seriously, it’s just such a childish concept you waste no time on them, we only exploit them to make good works of fiction. For me, it’s the same with God
 
I used to agree with you. 2 things got me to change my mind:
1- people how wanted nothing to do with God having a miraculous conversion experience (several former drug addicts, a former gang leader, a satanist to name a few)
2- reading up on the history of 1st century Palestine.

I may not be Roman Catholic (as stated above) but still a Christian.
 
MichaelP3 said:
And what if this actually leads you even further away?
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Because we have the truth. I’m sorry if that sounds arrogant, but there is only one truth. The Catholic Church, founded by Jesus Christ, has the truth, so we have nothing to fear from research, since it will all lead to the truth, and, therefore, to the Catholic Church.
 
Curious11 said:
Want honesty? Logic.

I’m not calling you stupid, i’m Saying this world, for me, is logically incompatible with an all-powerful and all-good God.

To me it’s like dragons. No one can say they can prove 100% they don’t exist, but you just don’t think about them and don’t take them seriously, it’s just such a childish concept you waste no time on them, we only exploit them to make good works of fiction. For me, it’s the same with God
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The flaw in your argument is that you actually contradict yourself. You say that you use logic, but at the same time belive that something came from nothing and that the incredibly complex body systems and plant systems were all just an accident: unplanned and undesigned. Do you believe that people have souls?
 
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