What's the deal with pre-marital sex?

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I However, I will be completely honest, for me, marrying a virgin wasn’t my preference.
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Why is that? Are you saying that you want men to do some sinning before marriage to get some experience under their belt? What kind of signal does that send out? Do you realize how much you’ve insulted all men who are saving themselves for marriage?
 
I am an avid Catholic. However, I am also an 18 year old boy. To be blunt, I do try to stray away from masturbation and having sex with my girlfriend, but I’m really not clear on exactly why the catholic church tells us to abstain from sex before marriage. I’ve heard parents, friends, priests, and professionals talk about it, but they all seem to be very vague on the subject. Please, can you guys spell it out for me?
Jonikiro, have you thought it through? So let’s say you have sex with your girlfriend and she becomes pregnant. What are you going to do? Are you ready to help her raise your baby? Are you ready to be a father?

And if you’re not, then what? Are you going to run away and abandon your girlfriend? Leave her helpless with a baby? Is that who you think you are? You want to have sex with her, does that mean you love her? But you wouldn’t love her enough to raise your baby, right?

Or would you pressure her to abort your baby? So now it goes from what you think is innocent, having sex, to murdering your own baby.

Let’s say you have sex and get herpes or aids. Are you prepared for that? Do you have medical insurance? Are you okay with being horribly sick for the rest of your life?

Oh wait, you’re practicing safe sex, right? So what happens when that condom breaks? What happens when your girlfriend forgets to eat her pill? What happens when you realize that condoms actually don’t protect you from disease and death?

Having sex outside of a marital bond is like telling a little lie. Pretty soon your whole life is wrapped up around it just to protect that mistake. You go from making little lies to ruining your whole life.
 
My husband and I were both virgins but we still lived together before marriage not a good plan! We were 19 and got married within 6 months but I was llucky I hadn’t got pregnant right away. I still felt bad I think it is hardest on the girl. The whole thing in life is to learn self control and we are not animals that are just getting it on anytime. My husband was drafted and we spent a good many months away from each other anyways. So what is the rush ! 🙂
 
Please, can you guys spell it out for me?
How about 104 different sexually transmitted diseases.

Life is too short to have to deal with which one of the 104 STD’s you’re going to be suffering with.

The Church is right on this one 🙂
 
Please consider this:

My husband was my first and only. I was not his. He had several casual sexual relationships before we became a couple, and let me tell you - even after several years of marriage - it STILL hurts me!
Yep. Pre-marital sex is basically cheating on your spouse, except it happens before the wedding, instead of after.
 
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Why is that? Are you saying that you want men to do some sinning before marriage to get some experience under their belt? What kind of signal does that send out? Do you realize how much you’ve insulted all men who are saving themselves for marriage?
She said she was being honest. And she said she it was for emotional rather than religious reasons at that time. Perhaps these questions did not arise until AFTER she got married. Furthermore, she said it would not have been her preference! If her husband had been a virgin, don’t you think it would have been hyprocritical NOT to marry him because of that reason? Keep what she said in context.
 
Well, after reading all your responses, I suppose I can give a few more details. (this is gonna be long, so bear with me)

My girlfriend and I met on a religious retreat. We’re both heavily involved in the church, both in servicing the masses and helping out in any religious education and etc. (and yeah, we both go to the same church :p). In 2 months will be our 1 year anniversary.

We had sex at the 6 month point. We had sex because we believed we couldn’t hold back any longer. The oral and other such stuff was becoming too hot, and thus we decided to take the safe(er) way and use condoms. It was the first time for both of us.

Unfortunately, about a week later, we decided to see what unprotected sex felt like. Of course, I pulled out, but it resulted in a pregnancy scare at the end of the month. A week before her period was scheduled to start, we got together and planned out everything we would have to do. For us, abortion/adoption were never options. Neither were contraceptives other than condoms (she’s not a fan of hormones)

After she missed her period, we all got ready to tell everyone. The last test for us was a home pregnancy test. After we used it, we learned…

She wasn’t pregnant.

The whole experience left us shaken, but glad. We vowed never to have sex again, and went to church to ask for forgiveness.

About 2 weeks later, we were having sex again. On the night it happened, she said she had brought an extra condom down because she knew it would happen. I felt guilty, to say the least.

So now, a few days later, I come to you looking for some common sense answers to this question. Some way I can make her understand why sex isn’t an option anymore. She seems to want it more than I do (which is understandable, since I’m the one wearing the condom = not too much feeling).

Though this may not mean much, I do plan to marry this woman. She plans to marry me as well. What we plan and what actually happens are two different things, yes, but the will is there. As I understand, oral sex and other forms of masturbation are against the church’s teachings as well.

I wasn’t willing to stop those forms of sex, and that’s what lead us to having sex again. How do you lead a pre-marital life void of sexual pleasures? It seems so difficult!
 
One way to avoid sex is to not be alone together, ever. You’ll need to have a chaperone–I’m being serious. You will not die without sex, you made it this long 😛 but to avoid serious sin such as this, you have to avoid the situations that allow it to happen, and that means you can’t EVER be alone, until you are married. You (and your girlfriend) should also check out the books and such recommended above so you can truly understand what the Church teaches about the beauty and sanctity of the MARTIAL embrace.

God bless your and your girlfriend,
Jennifer
 
Yikes. Seems like you have quite a cross to bear. Are you positive you want to marry this woman? You said you are 18, that’s quite young to be making such a decision.

About the sexual temptation. You need to remove yourselves from situations that lead you down that road. For instance, sleeping over each other’s houses is not a good idea, also french kissing tends to lead to other things. My fiance and I do not go further than pecking for this reason. I am not sure why, but the open mouthed kiss with tongue stirs up all kinds of tingly feelings. Go to confession regularly. Having the grace and forgiveness of God is a powerful thing and a very good deterrant from repeated “offenses.”

It’s great that you guys want to stop having sex. But, it won’t be easy.
 
Well, after reading all your responses, I suppose I can give a few more details. (this is gonna be long, so bear with me)

My girlfriend and I met on a religious retreat. We’re both heavily involved in the church, both in servicing the masses and helping out in any religious education and etc. (and yeah, we both go to the same church :p). In 2 months will be our 1 year anniversary.

We had sex at the 6 month point. We had sex because we believed we couldn’t hold back any longer. The oral and other such stuff was becoming too hot, and thus we decided to take the safe(er) way and use condoms. It was the first time for both of us.

Unfortunately, about a week later, we decided to see what unprotected sex felt like. Of course, I pulled out, but it resulted in a pregnancy scare at the end of the month. A week before her period was scheduled to start, we got together and planned out everything we would have to do. For us, abortion/adoption were never options. Neither were contraceptives other than condoms (she’s not a fan of hormones)

After she missed her period, we all got ready to tell everyone. The last test for us was a home pregnancy test. After we used it, we learned…

She wasn’t pregnant.

The whole experience left us shaken, but glad. We vowed never to have sex again, and went to church to ask for forgiveness.

About 2 weeks later, we were having sex again. On the night it happened, she said she had brought an extra condom down because she knew it would happen. I felt guilty, to say the least.

So now, a few days later, I come to you looking for some common sense answers to this question. Some way I can make her understand why sex isn’t an option anymore. She seems to want it more than I do (which is understandable, since I’m the one wearing the condom = not too much feeling).

Though this may not mean much, I do plan to marry this woman. She plans to marry me as well. What we plan and what actually happens are two different things, yes, but the will is there. As I understand, oral sex and other forms of masturbation are against the church’s teachings as well.

I wasn’t willing to stop those forms of sex, and that’s what lead us to having sex again. How do you lead a pre-marital life void of sexual pleasures? It seems so difficult!
If you have any other type of sexual contacts, it will lead to intercourse. So, my best advice is don’t do anything but innocent kissing. You should also avoid being in private places where you might end up having sex. Don’t hang out anywhere where there’s not at least the possibility of someone walking.

Also, talk to a priest, get someone else involved in your relationship to advice you and help you commit chastity.

And last but not least, go to confession REGULARLY and pray— pray the rosary and go to the blessed sacrament. Satan wants to do everything in his power to pervert your relationship; if you really love this girl, you won’t let him.

Kendy
 
I am going to try very hard to keep the mother in me from :tsktsk: …

What you have said happened almost proves what we all said in the previous posts: since having sex, you both can’t stop, even though you’ve had a serious scare. Birth control is being used, which is just adding another big mistake on top of it all.

You say that you don’t think she’ll understand why you no longer feel that you should be having sex. Do you really want to consider marrying someone who won’t understand this, or who apparently feels that neither one of you can control yourselves? Sorry to be so blunt, but I think you should really think about this and pray, pray, pray!!!

Good luck and God bless,

Trish
 
Dude, you are not going to like my post, but too bad.

You have to break it off. End it. Don’t see her anymore. I’m a guy and I know what you are saying about temptations. Believe me, now that you’ve gone there, there is no way you two are going to quit while still together as a couple.

In effect, you are going to choose the sex over God’s love and plan for your life - even though you KNOW it is spitting in His face. That’s pretty much the definition of mortal sin.

You’ve stolen the bond meant only for marriage. That bond has now been transformed in your relationship from something intended to be holy and mutually beneficial into an instrument of destruction. It would take a miracle of virtue and strength to change this relationship into one that is pure and pleasing to God and good for both of you. From my own recollections of being 18 and your own description of where you are at - you aren’t going to be able to pull it off. Your best hope is to make a clean break and be alone with God until you heal up.

I’m 36 now and remember what it was like to be 18 and be invincible and omniscient. Except that is was delusion. Life is brutal and decisions you make now will impact you for good or evil for the rest of your life. Choose carefully and God have mercy on us all.
 
Dude, you are not going to like my post, but too bad.

You have to break it off. End it. Don’t see her anymore. I’m a guy and I know what you are saying about temptations. Believe me, now that you’ve gone there, there is no way you two are going to quit while still together as a couple.

In effect, you are going to choose the sex over God’s love and plan for your life - even though you KNOW it is spitting in His face. That’s pretty much the definition of mortal sin.

You’ve stolen the bond meant only for marriage. That bond has now been transformed in your relationship from something intended to be holy and mutually beneficial into an instrument of destruction. It would take a miracle of virtue and strength to change this relationship into one that is pure and pleasing to God and good for both of you. From my own recollections of being 18 and your own description of where you are at - you aren’t going to be able to pull it off. Your best hope is to make a clean break and be alone with God until you heal up.

I’m 36 now and remember what it was like to be 18 and be invincible and omniscient. Except that is was delusion. Life is brutal and decisions you make now will impact you for good or evil for the rest of your life. Choose carefully and God have mercy on us all.
Whoah, so he is going to break it off with someone that he is in love with? Who is to say that they wouldn’t be able to stop having sex anyway? Maybe it wouldn’t be something you could do but you can’t say that for this poster. That’s sad to tell him to break it off with her. He loves her. Good lord. I would have no respect for someone to break off their relationship with someone they are in love with just because they had premarital sex.
 
Whoah, so he is going to break it off with someone that he is in love with? Who is to say that they wouldn’t be able to stop having sex anyway? Maybe it wouldn’t be something you could do but you can’t say that for this poster. That’s sad to tell him to break it off with her. He loves her. Good lord. I would have no respect for someone to break off their relationship with someone they are in love with just because they had premarital sex.
I know what he says is harsh, but looking back over my own life, I wish someone like him had sat me down and given me the hard truths like this.

My step-son thought he was in love, insisted on moving in with her. They claim they were careful, but she got pregnant anyway. They now have a beautiful little girl, but he knows now that he doesn’t love her and will never marry her. However, at this point, he feels that he can’t leave her because he wants to be with his daughter all the time, rather than on weekends and holidays. So he is 29 now and in a loveless relationship.

There is no such thing as “just premarital sex”. Sin is sin. Period.

God bless,

Trish
 
I know what he says is harsh, but looking back over my own life, I wish someone like him had sat me down and given me the hard truths like this.

My step-son thought he was in love, insisted on moving in with her. They claim they were careful, but she got pregnant anyway. They now have a beautiful little girl, but he knows now that he doesn’t love her and will never marry her. However, at this point, he feels that he can’t leave her because he wants to be with his daughter all the time, rather than on weekends and holidays. So he is 29 now and in a loveless relationship.

There is no such thing as “just premarital sex”. Sin is sin. Period.

God bless,

Trish
Yes, sin is sin, that is true, but what about forgiveness?

I know what you are saying but it doesn’t mean they can’t stop having sex. I mean, right at this point, they love each other. It’s sad to throw a relationship away because they had premarital sex. People have problems and they work things out. Just because it may not work for one couple, it doesn’t mean it won’t work for this couple. Problems can be worked out. In my opinion, I think that would be a sin for this couple to break up when they are clearly in love with each other. No one is to say they can’t stop having sex. It’s up to them. This is how I feel and honestly I would be highly shocked if the poster came on saying he would break up with her. I couldn’t imagine how that poor girl would feel either. If I knew a couple in a situation like this, and the guy broke up with the girl, I would tell her she deserves better and I would see the guy as being weak. sorry, no offense anyone. Just my thoughts on the topic.
 
Yes, sin is sin, that is true, but what about forgiveness?

I know what you are saying but it doesn’t mean they can’t stop having sex. I mean, right at this point, they love each other. It’s sad to throw a relationship away because they had premarital sex. People have problems and they work things out. Just because it may not work for one couple, it doesn’t mean it won’t work for this couple. Problems can be worked out. In my opinion, I think that would be a sin for this couple to break up when they are clearly in love with each other. No one is to say they can’t stop having sex. It’s up to them. This is how I feel and honestly I would be highly shocked if the poster came on saying he would break up with her. I couldn’t imagine how that poor girl would feel either. If I knew a couple in a situation like this, and the guy broke up with the girl, I would tell her she deserves better and I would see the guy as being weak. sorry, no offense anyone. Just my thoughts on the topic.
No offense taken. 🙂 And I don’t mean to offend, either, just giving my opinion.

I guess I remember being 18, which is how old I was when I lost my virginity in college. It became a downward spiral in my life. I tried to commit suicide, quit college, got into a number of disastrous and abusive relationships, married too young, diivorced, remarried another abusive man, and here I am. Would that all had happened if I had waited? I don’t know, but I do think my life might have definitely turned out different. Am I saying this will happen to them? Of course not. I just think that if sex cannot be avoided any longer, drastic steps must be taken.

At 18, hormones are still not in check. Once those floodgates are opened, I think it’s awfully hard to shut them. Trust me, I’m all for love. But thinking only with your heart will get you in a world of trouble.

If I was this couple, I would get both of us in front of trusted priest ASAP. They need spiritual guidance badly!

God bless,

Trish
 
Let it be known that I will do anything for this woman, even if it means reducing sexual activity to innocent pecks on the cheek. Despite my mistakes, I want to be the best person I can be for her, and I damn well plan to. I accept the consequences of my actions and desire to set things straight as best I can. We both do… And yet:

How do I live a chaste life with a woman who I adore both personally and physically?

Like I said, we are both heavily involved in the church and it’s teachings, which is what makes our premarital sex all the more confusing to me. The blame falls on me, as I was obsessed with the idea of sex for a large chunk of my life. However, I believe I can see clearly now that I’ve seen it first hand. I want to do the right thing now, and I know she does too. We just don’t know how.
 
Let it be known that I will do anything for this woman, even if it means reducing sexual activity to innocent pecks on the cheek. Despite my mistakes, I want to be the best person I can be for her, and I damn well plan to. I accept the consequences of my actions and desire to set things straight as best I can. We both do… And yet:

How do I live a chaste life with a woman who I adore both personally and physically?
Simple: You marry her!!👍
 
Let it be known that I will do anything for this woman, even if it means reducing sexual activity to innocent pecks on the cheek. Despite my mistakes, I want to be the best person I can be for her, and I damn well plan to. I accept the consequences of my actions and desire to set things straight as best I can. We both do… And yet:

How do I live a chaste life with a woman who I adore both personally and physically?
She’s a very lucky lady to have such a guy in her life!! 🙂

I’ll say it again, if I were you, I would get to a trusted priest ASAP. You need moral strength and guidance! Pray, pray, pray, pray and PRAY!!!

God bless,

Trish
 
Let it be known that I will do anything for this woman, even if it means reducing sexual activity to innocent pecks on the cheek. Despite my mistakes, I want to be the best person I can be for her, and I damn well plan to. I accept the consequences of my actions and desire to set things straight as best I can. We both do… And yet:

How do I live a chaste life with a woman who I adore both personally and physically?

Like I said, we are both heavily involved in the church and it’s teachings, which is what makes our premarital sex all the more confusing to me. The blame falls on me, as I was obsessed with the idea of sex for a large chunk of my life. However, I believe I can see clearly now that I’ve seen it first hand. I want to do the right thing now, and I know she does too. We just don’t know how.
I’m surprised that no one has mentioned this so far (and I apologize if I missed it), but women and men view sex differently. Your girlfriend probably seems to “want it more” because she is equating sex with love. If you stop giving her sex, her brain reads that as you don’t love her enough or at all.

**I have been in that situation and I can sympathize with her. It is such a strong feeling and will require very much explaining from you and reassurance that you are doing this (stopping all pre-marital relations) BECAUSE you love her deeply and care about ALL of her (body, mind and soul). **

**malia **
 
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