Did you even read what the other poster said? She said it was a preference not a requirement so your statement was totally uncalled for. I am not talking about the original poster here, I am talking about the other person you quoted.
Interesting when I saw no one on this thread saying they would reject a virgin.
By the way I noticed you didn’t quote "“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” — Jesus (ca. 5 BCE—33 CE) in the Gospels, Luke 6:31; Luke 10:27 (affirming of Moses)— Matthew 7:12 "
That’s all irrelevant. Even the mere preference sends out a signal “it doesn’t pay to obey the rules”.
Because that was not the point of your post, you were objecting to my strong choice of words, and I simply showed examples of strong words in scripture that could also be condsidered “rude” to some. But, to indulge you, if I were ever to find myself in the situation where I would not be offering someone the 100% that they were offering me, I would would be obligated to defer to someone else who could offer her 100%
I find it very insulting that on a board where we are trying to get people to avoid pre-marital sex those who do avoid it are are mocked like this. Is this how we motivate people to obey the rules, by mocking those who do?
It’s not irrelevant because you made it seem like she was saying one thing when it she clearly wasn’t. It wasn’t fair for her to be accused of something she wasn’t saying you know what I mean?
I am not objecting to your statements, I just find it rude calling people names and accusing the other poster of saying something she clearly didn’t.
This is exactly what I am saying you are doing. I find it insulting that you clearly mocked the other poster for stating her personal preference when she clearly did not say she would reject anyone. What is the saying, do as I say, not as I do?
I have actually. I quoted a statement by Jesus. Your quote doesn’t give the ticket to say it’s okay to call people names. I thought being catholic was all about kindness and forgiving. Not making fun of people or putting people down. Calling people names doesn’t show you to be the better person. What about when the pope forgave criminals. I can’t imagine him calling them insulting names.
Let’s just cut to the chase, Norseman you seem to like to call a spade a spade. Where you are in the wrong, would you mind yourself being called out on it? I suppose Norseman might actually have a preference to be blunt, and would prefer that method for someone correcting him, speaking as a guy, but especially as myself I can appreciate that and see it as an act of charity.
Are you receiving the Blessed Sacrament in grave sin? Do you go to confession each time prior to receiving the Blessed Sacrament? What are you teaching in religious education? Have you read the CCC? It sounds to me, and I must be honest, that you need a break from her and her from you. Your soul is at risk if you continue your relationship. How do you lead a pre-marital life void of sexual pleasure; prayer, trust in God and Church teachings. Also study Church teaching concerning birth control or continue to practice in pre abortion practices; another grave sin. Sorry to be so blunt or honest in my rsponse.Well, after reading all your responses, I suppose I can give a few more details. (this is gonna be long, so bear with me)
My girlfriend and I met on a religious retreat. We’re both heavily involved in the church, both in servicing the masses and helping out in any religious education and etc. (and yeah, we both go to the same church). In 2 months will be our 1 year anniversary.
We had sex at the 6 month point. We had sex because we believed we couldn’t hold back any longer. The oral and other such stuff was becoming too hot, and thus we decided to take the safe(er) way and use condoms. It was the first time for both of us.
Unfortunately, about a week later, we decided to see what unprotected sex felt like. Of course, I pulled out, but it resulted in a pregnancy scare at the end of the month. A week before her period was scheduled to start, we got together and planned out everything we would have to do. For us, abortion/adoption were never options. Neither were contraceptives other than condoms (she’s not a fan of hormones)
After she missed her period, we all got ready to tell everyone. The last test for us was a home pregnancy test. After we used it, we learned…
She wasn’t pregnant.
The whole experience left us shaken, but glad. We vowed never to have sex again, and went to church to ask for forgiveness.
About 2 weeks later, we were having sex again. On the night it happened, she said she had brought an extra condom down because she knew it would happen. I felt guilty, to say the least.
So now, a few days later, I come to you looking for some common sense answers to this question. Some way I can make her understand why sex isn’t an option anymore. She seems to want it more than I do (which is understandable, since I’m the one wearing the condom = not too much feeling).
Though this may not mean much, I do plan to marry this woman. She plans to marry me as well. What we plan and what actually happens are two different things, yes, but the will is there. As I understand, oral sex and other forms of masturbation are against the church’s teachings as well.
I wasn’t willing to stop those forms of sex, and that’s what lead us to having sex again. How do you lead a pre-marital life void of sexual pleasures? It seems so difficult!
I normally just read and not post but I had to say that I totally agree with this.