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What’s the most beautiful habit you’ve ever seen?
Having been the first to answer the original question on this thread, I’ll explain from my own perspective what I see as a beautiful habit, and why.
Rest assured, I think it’d be plain weird to choose an Order based solely on the habit - as you say, Sister Judith, it doesn’t change someone inside. However, they are beautiful to a discerner because they serve as the reflection of the ideals that Sisters and Brothers choose to live for. The symbolism of the colours is an example: white for purity, black for death to self, brown to show love of poverty… and also the degree of austerity: the Carmelite veil is designed so that it doesn’t flow elegantly down the back, while other Orders with different missions have more elaborate coifs. There is a lot of beauty in what they mean. (Of course, you’ll know this better than I do, but I wanted to show that we also know that aesthetic appeal isn’t the raison d’etre for a habit.)
They often have practical as well as symbolic beauty, and that does come up in the discussion when talking about “most beautiful habit.” (Holds hand up and confesses: it did when I was making my post.) On the other hand, that kind of beauty is still abstracted from actual vocation: the habit of the Sisters of Life is one that appeals greatly to my aesthetic sense, but I can’t picture myself as one of them because I know that their mission would be beyond my emotional resources. Similarly, despite my curiosity about the Sisters of Our Lady of Mercy habit, I’ll never find out what it’s like to wear it unless I first become certain that I have a vocation to spread devotion to the Divine Mercy… and then the habit will be a reflection of who I am and want to be, not a means of satisfying said curiosity.
When responding to the original question, I interpreted it both in the abstract sense of liking the way that habits look, and also a deeper desire to learn what other people would see as beauty, and why. For that reason, I thought that it was a nice question.
:thumbsup: Couldn't have said it any better
Thankyou Spiritu- I could never have explained it better either. Sr Judith Ann, please refer to Spiritu’s response for my own. I apologise for any misunderstandings:blush:Having been the first to answer the original question on this thread, I’ll explain from my own perspective what I see as a beautiful habit, and why.
Rest assured, I think it’d be plain weird to choose an Order based solely on the habit - as you say, Sister Judith, it doesn’t change someone inside. However, they are beautiful to a discerner because they serve as the reflection of the ideals that Sisters and Brothers choose to live for. The symbolism of the colours is an example: white for purity, black for death to self, brown to show love of poverty… and also the degree of austerity: the Carmelite veil is designed so that it doesn’t flow elegantly down the back, while other Orders with different missions have more elaborate coifs. There is a lot of beauty in what they mean. (Of course, you’ll know this better than I do, but I wanted to show that we also know that aesthetic appeal isn’t the raison d’etre for a habit.)
They often have practical as well as symbolic beauty, and that does come up in the discussion when talking about “most beautiful habit.” (Holds hand up and confesses: it did when I was making my post.) On the other hand, that kind of beauty is still abstracted from actual vocation: the habit of the Sisters of Life is one that appeals greatly to my aesthetic sense, but I can’t picture myself as one of them because I know that their mission would be beyond my emotional resources. Similarly, despite my curiosity about the Sisters of Our Lady of Mercy habit, I’ll never find out what it’s like to wear it unless I first become certain that I have a vocation to spread devotion to the Divine Mercy… and then the habit will be a reflection of who I am and want to be, not a means of satisfying said curiosity.
When responding to the original question, I interpreted it both in the abstract sense of liking the way that habits look, and also a deeper desire to learn what other people would see as beauty, and why. For that reason, I thought that it was a nice question.
Sister, I hope I will not seem impertinent when I ask these questions, but the matter does concern me. First of all, I may not understand what you meant by “the same tradition”. Does this mean that you are all from monasteries run by the Poor Clares? If so, why would each have different habits and practices?I am glad that you explained what you meant. I read the question incorrectly. Perhaps because I have worn that is called the “traditional” habit and know how expensive it was, I have a certain filter. We wore 5 years of wool serge year round. Anyone who knows fabric knows that wool is always more expensive. If cotton today runs in the $7 to $10 range I can imagine what the wool serge would cost today. It was not the clothing of the poor!
In reading the responses I even found orders/communities that I didn’t know existed!
When we began this new monastery, the four of us came from four different monasteries so we had to decide what we would wear. Each of our communities were slightly different in habit and veil so it was something we had to decide early on if we wanted to have the same habit.
Even though we were all from the same “tradition” we had to discuss most everything to find that way that we would express the charism in this new place. What worked on the East Coast where our monasteries were well established (some over 100 years old) did not necessarily translate seamlessly to Montana. So we did what St Clare did 800 years ago and what Mother Magdelen Bentivoglio did when she brought the Poor Clare life to the United States 150+ years ago. We went to the Gospel, the Rule of St. Clare and the international Constitutions.
I hope that this explains a bit about where I came from on the question.
Sr Judith Ann
I think the Singing Nuns, Congregation of Mary Immaculate Queen, are a sedevacantist groupI also like the Singing Nuns striking dark blue. They are a group of Traditional nuns who I believe used to travel a lot and sing. Someone may know more about them than I do.
More than one person (including me) have remarked that the garb of holy poverty can get rather expensive!I am glad that you explained what you meant. I read the question incorrectly. Perhaps because I have worn that is called the “traditional” habit and know how expensive it was, I have a certain filter. We wore 5 years of wool serge year round. Anyone who knows fabric knows that wool is always more expensive. If cotton today runs in the $7 to $10 range I can imagine what the wool serge would cost today. It was not the clothing of the poor!