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WELS…the 39th largest Protestant denomination…or around there…
Just a small point…Now some of the small groups, like Seventh Day Adventists might.
Granted, but when you consider that they are but one part of a significantly large sub-denomination of much larger denomination…WELS…the 39th largest Protestant denomination…or around there…
As people, I have never known a bad one, either.Just a small point…Here is a link to the Seventh Day Adventist site…appears official, and its actually the link to a subpage I had to find by doing an actual search of their site… adventist.org/beliefs/statements/main_stat42.html Its interesting, and it really isn’t bad at all. And considering the overall import of the page, its really quite mild…and compared to some websites I’ve seen, I have to essentially say theirs is “non-offensive”, and to a historical viewpoint…there is a fact or two in their favor…
Personally, I’ve known Seventh Day Adventists…and never had a problem with them. My grandparents and my wife have all been treated in Adventists Hospitals…and their religion was clearly noted…and they were always treated very well, and all were visited by a Parish Priest regularly…![]()
Maybe, SDA may not be as bad as it’s made out to be, but just like in any other Christian denomination, they have their fanatics. I’ve seen some SDA fanatics on YouTube, and those fanatics are filled with hate, just like most other fanatics in any religion. Supposedly, it was SDA’s who came up with the “Vicarius Filii Dei/666” thing. I don’t know if those were just fanatics, or if they were in the mainstream.As people, I have never known a bad one, either.
As a denomination, they are very anti-Catholic.
And anti-anyone else as a rule.
More than likely, they were fanatics lead by the OFFICIAL teaching that The Catholic Church IS the Whore of Babylon. IF you read the SDA site, they make it clear that they have no issues with Catholics but they hold to the prophacies as they interpret them.Maybe, SDA may not be as bad as it’s made out to be, but just like in any other Christian denomination, they have their fanatics. I’ve seen some SDA fanatics on YouTube, and those fanatics are filled with hate, just like most other fanatics in any religion. Supposedly, it was SDA’s who came up with the “Vicarius Filii Dei/666” thing. I don’t know if those were just fanatics, or if they were in the mainstream.
how can anyone listen to so much ignorance? that is what happen when people get a hold of the Bible and think they understand. Lord have Mercy.First of all, Catholic bashing has been going on since the ti mes of the Reformation, and even before then. Some people cannot handle the truth, so they must bash it as the only way to console themselves about the church that Christ established. There are jealousies (as a Jewish man once told me that he was jealous we celebrate Christmas and have a beautiful Vatican). And there is hatred that there are 1.5 BILLION Catholics and more converts than ever coming hometo Rome and the church Christ founded.
Just type in this here : GINO JENNINGS #609 PART 8, and you will see the ignorance and the hatred toward us. Just type this one on youtube and click search.
Shhhhhh! That’s a secret!Again, it goes both ways.
It’s funny how a particular behavior can be regarded as repulsive going one way, but back the other way an entirely different standard is applied. Damning anyone who rejects the Catholic church is “exposing someone to the truth”, damning anyone who accepts the Catholic church is “grossly offensive”.
You appear to have a highly skewed view.The misguided Protestant belief in faith alone for salvation is one of the reasons they are so anti-Catholic as they believe that they are** the true Christians**.
That’s why their main means of practicing their faith is through proselytization. In my experience, they do very little charity work (in their church) and concentrate only on gaining converts to their church.
The Roman Catholic Church, with its belief that both faith and good works are necessary for salvation allows it to focus on relieving the suffering in the world and proclaiming the Word of God through words and actions.
On a community service trip to Mexico with my parish, we were told that the locals were irritated with some Protestant groups who came to give them assistance IF they converted. This led a Catholic priest to start a non-denominational organization to provide aid to the poor with no strings attached.
Well, my experience has mainly been with Evangelical Christians, but I’m sure that the mainline Protestant denominations (e.g., Episcopal, Lutheran, Methodist, Baptist etc.) have views that are more closely aligned with the Catholic Church. I know a few Seventh Day Adventists, Episocopalians and non-Denominational Christians who seem like authentic practicing Christians.You appear to have a highly skewed view.
As far as work for the poor and opressed, I applaud your efforts but absolutely refuse to accept this complete caricature you are presenting.
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I could go on and on. Maybe I should to make a point.
As all of you probably know, SDA’s definitely aren’t the only ones who think that the Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon. I think that that idea may have been around since at least the time of Martin Luther.More than likely, they were fanatics lead by the OFFICIAL teaching that The Catholic Church IS the Whore of Babylon. IF you read the SDA site, they make it clear that they have no issues with Catholics but they hold to the prophacies as they interpret them.
True, but to my knowledge, they are the only “mainline” group that actually has it as an item of doctrine.As all of you probably know, SDA’s definitely aren’t the only ones who think that the Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon. I think that that idea may have been around since at least the time of Martin Luther.
REPLY:As all of you probably know, SDA’s definitely aren’t the only ones who think that the Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon. I think that that idea may have been around since at least the time of Martin Luther.
I don’t think the statement applies particularly well to Evangelicals as a group either, though as has come up in prior threads a generational gap may be at hand here, as Evangelical attitudes towards Catholicism seem to have changed quite a bit in the last 50 years.Well, my experience has mainly been with Evangelical Christians, but I’m sure that the mainline Protestant denominations (e.g., Episcopal, Lutheran, Methodist, Baptist etc.) have views that are more closely aligned with the Catholic Church. I know a few Seventh Day Adventists, Episocopalians and non-Denominational Christians who seem like authentic practicing Christians.
I do know some of my Evangelical friends have prayer books that pray for the conversion of Catholics and I’ve been told by an Evangelical TV personality that I’m going to hell, but you’re right, Protestants are varied within their various denominations and Catholics do acknowledge the presence of God working in our Protestant brethren.
If we’re right they’re wrong and they find that quite threatening,hence the overboard reaction.I’ve noticed that in the comments for most of the Catholic videos that I’ve watched on YouTube, some Protestant fundamentalist, and his or her cronies, jump in with ad-hominem arguments and insults against the Catholic Church. These people are very judgemental, and in some cases, they condemn all Catholics to Hell. Other Protestant fundamentalists make provocative anti-Catholic videos, just to start fights. I wish that YouTube would do something about these extremely hateful religious zelots, but nothing is being done. I’m sick and tired of reading terms like “wafer-god,” “cookie,” and “cracker,” to describe the holy Eucharist, and I’m sick and tired of these people calling us “unsaved,” “Hell-bound,” “idolaters,” “Mary worshipers,” etc, and quoting out of context scripture verses, usually from the KJV, to try to prove their points. I wish that for once, that we could enjoy a Catholic video on YouTube, without someone jumping in and trying to ruin it for us. Sorry, but I just had to vent.
That’s probably true for some of them. Many of them seem very insecure in their religious beliefs.If we’re right they’re wrong and they find that quite threatening,hence the overboard reaction.