When a mob came to tear down the statue of St. Louis in St Louis, Missouri, a priest and Catholics praying there stood in their way

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ZemD said:
and threatening him about “coming next” for the cathedral.
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I say go for it… and watch the pushback they get from faithful Catholics!

St. Louis, King of France: pray for us!
 
I hear Jesus was true man and true God. “TRUE MEN” interceded to protect that which Catholics hold dear. How many priests and laymen can profess this? I hope many but frankly I don’t know.
 
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Yeah, and I think it will happen. This kind of thing never ends well for religious people.
 
Cirdan_XII said:
They’re not looking for respect. They’re looking for confrontation. They’re looking for an enemy.
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And maybe they’re looking for their fathers. I know that sounds like a reach and esoteric and condescending, and suggesting that I have any genuine psychological insight would be a stretch. But WHERE ARE the psychologists? After 9/11 I wondered also, why is the psychological profession AWOL? Or is it just that our media ignores it? Yet can they not find a voice, make themselves heard, if they have ideas? Really, merely hearing an idea would be encouraging. About Chauvin, about rioters. I want to say, please, psychologists, get involved. We have many people becoming sociopaths and you are silent, or have been effectively silenced.
 
Not a bad idea. It seems that many people are getting a little more crazy with each passing year. Maybe the psychologists or the theologians or parents can explain it.
 
Peeps said:
My husband says that this is why the Democrats look like they’re providing so much help to the poor and disadvantaged–but the help they give doens’t seem to help the poor and disadvantaged to rise up, and that’s just the way the Democrats want it. After all, if the poor became self-sufficient and overcame their disadvantages, the Democrats wouldn’t have anything to campaign about.

If this is true, it’s terrible.
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I don’t think it necessarily takes a conspiracy.

I think many of their policies are ineffective if not outright counterproductive, but they are too blinkered to see how ineffective they are. So the overall effect is the same.
 
Buks said:
And maybe they’re looking for their fathers. I know that sounds like a reach and esoteric and condescending, and suggesting that I have any genuine psychological insight would be a stretch. But WHERE ARE the psychologists? After 9/11 I wondered also, why is the psychological profession AWOL?
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I fear that the psychological profession is by and large backing the Democrats, and those who don’t and see things differently are too cowardly to speak out.
 
Peeps said:
I see
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Booker T. Washington wrote: “There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”
 
I say call it a virus and Catholics will just let them take it.
 
Annie said:
Booker T. Washington wrote: “There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”
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Wow, that’s amazing.

I have wondered if the majority of African Americans agree with BLM and their tactics, or do they disagree?

I get the feeling that many African Americans are keeping a low profile during this time.

As I said in another post, I believe that ALL African Americans have the memory of someone in their family who was lynched. Many lynchings took place in the first half of the 20th Century, and many people are still alive (Greatest Generation and Baby Boomers) who lived through those times. It’s very possible that many African Americans had a parent, grandparent, or great-grandparent who was lynched, and this crime has caused them to be ever watchful and distrustful of white people, especially those in authority.

I fully sympathize with them. I can’t imagine how people who have experienced such a horrible, unjust murder of an innocent person can be completely trustful of a race that produced such people as would murder an innocent human being.

But I think many black people and families have managed to deal with their distrust and fear and make a good life for themselves in the United States. This is the group I wish we could hear from, but I think at this point, they are wary of speaking out. I do not blame them at all. I would do the same.

Once trust is destroyed, it is almost impossible to trust again. My family was ousted from our last Evangelical Protestant church (the one we were attending before we converted to Catholicism), and even though it’s been almost 20 years ago–I still do NOT trust anyone in any church, including my beloved Holy Mother Church. I know what human beings are capable of.
 
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But I think many black people and families have managed to deal with their distrust and fear and make a good life for themselves in the United States. This is the group I wish we could hear from, but I think at this point, they are wary of speaking out. I do not blame them at all. I would do the same.
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I have seen some videos of black people speaking out in different ways.

This is an article about one such incident–i wish I could find the video. The very young woman was asking why the older man was protecting the Emancipation Statue in DC–she asks, why are we fighting? You look just like me!-- and the man, a man old enough to be her grandfather and who talks with her as gently as if she were. ETA: the young woman was very excited.

This video is a compilation of different protesters asking spraypainters to stop, and one group is even protecting what seems to be a Target store, and so on.

There are more but I didn’t keep the links. Now I wish I had!
 
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Hard to believe Mr. Washington died over 100 years ago. He could be writing about people like the person below:

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There’s nothing sacramental about a house or any property either but you can’t blame someone who’s defending their house from looters and arsonists.

It’s not the attachment to the statue. Mobs do not have any right to destroy something they deem offensive via acts of vandalism. There are grown up ways of dealing with things one doesn’t like.
 
The statue in question has been there for over a century. It’s not an obscure memorial people barely notice. It sits in front of the Art Museum, over a huge basin where they frequently have concerts, play, balloon glows, fireworks, and festivals. Generations of children have gone there to go sledding and boating. Many people might not even know who Louis IX was, but they’ve grown up under that statue and tearing it down would be almost like tearing down the arch.
 
Wonderful Priest ! The hostilities and violence of the Protesters are increasing, and they have expressed intentions of going after art in Churches and Cathedrals next. This is clearly a Satanic movement which has lost any Noble idea it had to begin with. We can’t allow the Evil Destroyers to attack our faith without defending it more actively than the Police have defended our cities.
 
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