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frogman80
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Hmm… maybe “civil rights” as defined by state law…
Situations like this show that it is a good thing that the “church” is the Catholic Church… not the government.
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Situations like this show that it is a good thing that the “church” is the Catholic Church… not the government.
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Catilieth
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So true…the same laws proclaim the “right” to kill children in the womb. Biocatholic, since this is the law, does it make it right.? Since this is what women can do, does it mean that it’s right to do it.
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Ana
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I’m no doctor, but I am pretty sure it is impossible to have your guard down when you’re angry (as OP admits), even in your own ohome. Anger stimulates adrenalin. I do wonder how he missed something as big as a frying pan coming at him. Since he was hit in the forehead, he was facing her, and unless she has superhuman speed and perhaps did this during a “blink”, it seems odd that even if he couldn’t completely defelct the blow, that he didn’t partially. I could very well be wrong, but it does sound suspicious.
Although I am inclined to disagree with the OP’s actions, I am refraining from saying so, because only he, his wife and God knows what really happened. And no, I am not saying that it is any more okay for a woman to hit a man than vice versa, but GENERALLY speaking, it is DIFFERENT.
The woman is considered the weaker sex. In the instance, of the man married to a soldier or cop, this would be thought to be an exception to the general rule that yes, if my husband wanted to, he could kill me in a physical confrontation much easier than I could him. I would have to resort to the “sneakier” ways … like poisening, while he was sleeping or unaware … etc. But perhaps his wife is bigger than him, or he just “let it happen” From the evidence that as been presented, I think he could have stopped her. And his post says he was on his way to put the gun away, not that he had.
There were times early in our marriage that while arguing with my husband, I would intentionally provoke him. He would finally give me a shove or something (barely) and I would let my body go like he had really pushed me hard. I intentionally didn’t defend myself to intentionally make the damages from what he did … worse. Sick psycho games … glad those days are gone. Glad a prison sentence or our own stupidity didn’t destroy what has, in Christ, turned out to be a BEAUTIFUL, HAPPY, and FULFILLING marriage.
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mjdonnelly
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His answers to the grand jury were inappropriate. He made generalized answers and didn’t directly answer the question.
The whole “I’m always in fear for my life…”
Should have been a yes or no answer. I wonder what questions the members of the grand jury asked him?
And as said earlier, he can’t carry a gun while on duty. Unless his area’s laws are different from the rest of NYS.
The whole “I’m always in fear for my life…”
Should have been a yes or no answer. I wonder what questions the members of the grand jury asked him?
And as said earlier, he can’t carry a gun while on duty. Unless his area’s laws are different from the rest of NYS.
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jman507
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Yeah that sounds great, like saying even though I tried to ram you with a car, you had enough time to get out of the way. Frankly I’m sure the jails and prisons are filled with people who didn’t really mean to do what they did, but regardless they did what they did.
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mjdonnelly
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But your argument was that we are off guard in our homes, when, during an argument, we are not relaxed and are tense, ready for something to happen.
You are just rediverting her statements.
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jman507
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It doesn’t matter if you are ready for an attack or not that makes it a criminal or not. If she did hit him across the head, and sent him into a coma, how much of a defence do you think it’d be for her that he was supposed to have moved out of the way would be? Well she shouldn’t have been swinging the frying pan in the first place.
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mjdonnelly
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I agree it was assault, but not that it was against an officer. And he didn’t help the issue by his performance with the grand jury.
Speaking of criminal, isn’t it illegal to talk about grand jury proceedings and what evidence was presented by someone involved? At least it was last time I checked.
Speaking of criminal, isn’t it illegal to talk about grand jury proceedings and what evidence was presented by someone involved? At least it was last time I checked.
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cainem
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what was her sentence?
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Rebecca_New
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The sad thing is that once physical abuse starts- it doesn’t end, you did the right thing. Even if you both make amends, you will always know what your wife is capable of. What a painful way to learn a lesson both physically and mentally. May God grant you the grace to rise above this terrible situation. I will pray for you both.
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Catilieth
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Rebecca New:
Your statement gives me the impression that you find forgiveness impossible, and that people cannot ament their lives. If that is the case, we are all bound for hell.
This statement is blatently false and easily proven to be false. Please refer to Mr. and Mrs. R above, and Ana, just to give you two examples from only this forum.
Your statement gives me the impression that you find forgiveness impossible, and that people cannot ament their lives. If that is the case, we are all bound for hell.
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Ana
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I agree that what she did was wrong. But his “victim” role just doesn’t seem to make sense. When taking into account motivations and relationship patterns, it seems like only one person is paying the penalty for a two person problem. Seems unjust to me.
Also, I do not believe she should have been charged with assaulting a police officer, as another poster stated. She was not acting in that context and neither was he. He admits himself that he acted out of ANGER, that he mislead the jury to believe that he feared for his life. HE LIED UNDER OATH TO EXTEND HER SENTENCE!!
I repeat … HE LIED UNDER OATH TO EXTEND HER SENTENCE!! Can anyone defend this?:nope: It is evil.
The OP was not asking if HER actions were right (they weren’t), he is questioning HIS. And from what I see, I do not think he was justified because of his motives, as well as his later actions of driving the nails into her coffin.
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Ana
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She will be serving at least five years.
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Julian_Peters
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Thank you to all those who have participated in this discussion. This thread is now closed.
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