I just wish one time that you would check the Bible. I do NOT dispute water baptism for heavens sake, nor does my “denomination”. We baptism when the person has reached his or her age of reason, which differs, and they want to be baptised. It is very important, but it a personal choice as to when.
You know, I am tring very hard to “sound” the way I should, but it seems someone is never quite satisfied with the way I type, since you cannot actually hear how I sound now can you. If you don’t want to respond to me that is entirely up to you. I really don’t know how to type any softer.
no u misunderstand me. I assumed u practice water baptism.
Yet, as we discussed in another thread, Leslie, you really don’t follow Jesus Christ’s example of how he was baptized, do you, unless you get baptized in the river Jordan by your Essene cousin, yes?
Thanks!Hi, PRmerger,
These were two excellent posts
Keep up the good work!
God bless
You know, I am tring very hard to “sound” the way I should, Lielie, this is not an issue of ‘sounding’ - this is not style - this is a content issue. You are not, in my opinion, acting outrageously bad - you are just not producing what is being asked of you.
but it seems someone is never quite satisfied with the way I type, Again, this is not a style issue. Let me explain: when you respond to someone, it is expected that you will explain yourself. Your previous statement of, “No your (sic) wrong” is totally inadequate. You’re required to explain under what conditions you think the poster is in error. When making statements about Christ’s baptism and the current practice of baptism, you are expected to provide at least scriptural evidence to support your position. You may not agree with someone, but, surely the issue is maintain civil dialogue.
since you cannot actually hear how I sound now can you. While no one can ‘hear’ how you sound, it is most important to practice appropriate e-mail etiquette so that you communicate appropriately and effectively. For example, calling someone a moron is not really putting your best foot forward, is it?
If you don’t want to respond to me that is entirely up to you. Thank you. I am aware of this…,
I really don’t know how to type any softer. Again, Lielie, this is a content issue. Answer questions presented to you. It may be that you do not have the answer at the tip of your fingers - so, go and research the topic. If you expect others to respect your belief system, then you are responsible for presenting a credible and logical argument. I am confident that you expect to receive responsible answers to your questions. Just take your time and you can make a much better presentation. Now, it could be that after researching a question, you are unable to find the answer you wanted. I think the poster would appreciate you coming back and explaing what you did and the difficulty you encountered. No one has all of the answers all of the time. But, everyone can speak civilly and engage others in respectful dialogue. I think that is the heart of the matter.
God bless.
Actually, now on second thought, I feel a bit sheepish for accepting thanks for those posts–it was really 2 cut/pastes that I did, so I ought not take credit for *that! *Hi, PRmerger,
These were two excellent posts
Keep up the good work!
God bless
“Never met one” -
Oh, and one more thought: Jesus was baptized in his 30s–so do you tell adults to wait until they’re 30 to be baptized, to “follow the example of Jesus Christ.”?Yet, as we discussed in another thread, Leslie, you really don’t follow Jesus Christ’s example of how he was baptized, do you, unless you get baptized in the river Jordan by your Essene cousin, yes?
You’ve simply taken one aspect of Christ’s baptism (his being an adult) and assumed (without any Scriptural verse to tell you to do this) that you’re supposed to copy that aspect. Yet you ignore all the other details about his baptism: done in a river (do you take all your congregants to a river? If someone is not baptized in a river is it valid in your pastor’s eyes?), by your cousin who’s been living in the desert for a while. Why don’t you do it that way, the way Jesus gave an example?
Didn’t read my reply again I see.
Infant baptism is certainly in the Bible - whole households were baptized - they didn’t have “birth control” back then, and they didn’t see children as a burden - therefore, every household with women in it also had children in it.
Yes He did bless the children because the deciples where trying to keep them back from Jesus, He was not baptising them…He was making a point about being as a child or you couldnot enter into heaven…refering to their simple faith.“Never met one” -
Leslie, we are talking about people who lived in the generation right after Jesus. We are talking about 2,000 years ago. We are not talking about people who are walking around in modern times.
I know that, thats why I answered the way I did…I really did get it.
Name one person who lived at that time, who thought that Jesus practiced adults-only Baptism. You can’t, because such a person never existed. The concept of adults-only Baptism is less than 500 years old.
Gotcha, then following the example of Christ…and I think John the Baptist would be one person, since he was baptising only adults…no record of one child…I can and I did.
Jesus blessed the little children (Mark 10:13-16) - it’s clear that Jesus thought that little children should be allowed to belong to His Kingdom - that’s why we baptize them. That’s why the people who lived in the time of St. Cyprian of Carthage baptized little babies before they were even eight days old, and why St. Cyprian said it was a good idea to do that, and that people should not feel constrained to wait until the baby was eight days old.
Right. And if the simple faith of a child is what is required, to become a citizen of the Kingdom of Heaven, then surely the “citizenship ceremony” (Baptism) should be open to children - shouldn’t it?
I said this agian and I was ignored, so once more.
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If you really follow his example then you should have been baptized in the river Jordan by your cousin when you were in your 30s. That’s all I’m saying.
I am sure that I explained it somewhere, but these do not run in order and sometimes it confuses me, so join the club…As simplistically as I can…Water baptism is the outward sign that you have accepted Christ as you r personal saviour. Jesus was baptised so we follow His example and likewise do the same. If you search this a little you will probably find a much longer answer that goes in more detail. If you don’t find it, I will be glad to rewrite it for you. have a good day…I really don’t want anything to sound like 20 questions.