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Why is abortion wrong? Where in the scripture does it say abortion is wrong? [BIBLEDRB][/BIBLEDRB]
Exodus 20:13Why is abortion wrong? Where in the scripture does it say abortion is wrong? [BIBLEDRB][/BIBLEDRB]
Hmm - for starters there are references (not-at-all approving ones, mind) in the Old Testament to soldiers ripping unborn babes out of the wombs of pregnant women. Which is abortion. And wrong.Why is abortion wrong? Where in the scripture does it say abortion is wrong? [BIBLEDRB][/BIBLEDRB]
In definitive terms, it doesn’t. But in the time of Jesus, Jewish law already precluded abortion in most cases (there was an exception for maternal health and another if a pregnant woman was sentenced to death).Why is abortion wrong? Where in the scripture does it say abortion is wrong? [BIBLEDRB][/BIBLEDRB]
Yep. Perfect.Exodus 20:13
Thou shalt not kill.
Oh, and if one is of the mind that life does not begin at conception, then one should take a look a Psalm 139.
13 For you created my inmost being;
you knit me together in my mother’s womb.
14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
your works are wonderful,
38*And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.
39*And Mary arose in those days, and went into the hill country with haste, into a city of Juda;
40*And entered into the house of Zacharias, and saluted Elisabeth.
41*And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:
42*And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.
43*And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?
44*For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.
45*And blessed is she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord.
46*And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,
47*And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
Here we see that after the Annunciation, the Blessed Virgin Mary has conceived Jesus and has already been the “Mother of my Lord.” She is already considered the mother of an existing person even if she has not yet given birth to Jesus. St. John the Baptist also reacted to the arrival of Jesus and Mary, signifying personhood. The Bible already treats the unborn as persons. It would be an act of murder to kill them even if they are not yet born.48*For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
1867 The catechetical tradition also recalls that there are “sins that cry to heaven”: the blood of Abel,139 [139 Cf. Gen 4:10.] the sin of the Sodomites,140 the cry of the people oppressed in Egypt,141 the cry of the foreigner, the widow, and the orphan,142 injustice to the wage earner.143
1868 Sin is a personal act. Moreover, we have a responsibility for the sins committed by others when we cooperate in them:
**- by participating directly and voluntarily in them;
- by ordering, advising, praising, or approving them;
- by not disclosing or not hindering them when we have an obligation to do so;
- by protecting evil-doers.**
1869 Thus** sin makes men accomplices of one another and causes concupiscence, violence, and injustice to reign among them**. Sins give rise to social situations and institutions that are contrary to the divine goodness. “Structures of sin” are the expression and effect of personal sins. They lead their victims to do evil in their turn. In an analogous sense, they constitute a "social sin."144
Psalm 94
New International Version (NIV)
20 Can a corrupt throne be allied with you—
a throne that brings on misery by its decrees?
21 The wicked band together against the righteous
and condemn the innocent to death.
22 But the Lord has become my fortress,
and my God the rock in whom I take refuge.
23 He will repay them for their sins
and destroy them for their wickedness;
the Lord our God will destroy them.
**Psalm 94
The New American Bible, Revised Edition (NABRE)
**
20
Can** unjust judges** be your allies,
those who create burdens by decree,
[think…Roe vs Wade]21
Those who conspire against the just
and** condemn the innocent to death**?
22
No, the LORD is my secure height,
my God, my rock of refuge,
23
Who will turn back their evil upon them
and destroy them for their wickedness.
Surely the LORD our God will destroy them!
Why not start another thread?Is there a quote in the bible that specifies when it’s fine for us to kill another human being? Like when we send people to the electric chair in a very organized and planned way, for example?
Much appreciated, thank you.
We can roll this back even a bit further:The Visitation (Luke 1:38-48) Here we see that after the Annunciation, the Blessed Virgin Mary has conceived Jesus and has already been the “Mother of my Lord.” She is already considered the mother of an existing person even if she has not yet given birth to Jesus. St. John the Baptist also reacted to the arrival of Jesus and Mary, signifying personhood. The Bible already treats the unborn as persons. It would be an act of murder to kill them even if they are not yet born.
I love that wording!We can roll this back even a bit further:
Luke 1:31
Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
31 Behold thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and shalt bring forth a son; and thou shalt call his name Jesus.
Conceive > Bring forth
Thus, what is begun with conception is completed upon delivery.