Where is that in the Bible?

[The_Truthinator]

1. Where is the word Trinity in the Bible?

It’s not, yet a close examination of Genesis and the Apostle Paul’s epistles (which declare that there is but One God yet refer to Yeshua as “Lord,” the Greek kurious, a term used specifically to denote the Divinity) will either confuse the reader, or else lead him to conclude that somehow the Father, Son, and Spirit are all God, yet distinguishable. This truth is simply dubbed Trinity.

1. Where in the Bible does it say Bible is the ONLY authority regarding salvation?

Never specifically, yet there is that whole do-not-add-to-or-take-from the Word thing … Both in Torah and Revelation, interestingly enough. Joshua put his account alongside Moses’s because he knew it to be inspired; likewise did the Prophets. Yet for the Catholic Church to declare its own works “inspired” would make them have a claim to Scriptural authority, which is quite heretical; and if they’re not worthy of being called Scriptural, then they are simply men’s works, however nice they may be, and therefore should not be set alongside the rest of God’s Word anymore than the Qur’an or Book of Mormon or Apocrypha.

1. Where in the Bible is there alter calls?

What’s that? The invitation after the service? “Why not give someone the chance to accept the Good News?” is the better question!

1. Where in the Bible that we are save by faith alone?

"This Good News tells us how God makes us right in his sight. This is accomplished from start to finish by faith. As the Scriptures say, ‘It is through faith that a righteous person has life.’” --Rom. 1:17

“We are made right with God by placing our faith in Jesus Christ.” --Rom. 3:22

“People are made right with God when they believe that Jesus sacrificed his life, shedding his blood.” --Rom. 3:25

“What good is it, dear brothers and sisters, if you say you have faith but don’t show it by your actions?.. I will show you my faith by my good deeds…” James 2:14, 18

You see, his [Abraham’s] faith and his actions worked together. His actions made his faith complete. And so it happened just as the Scriptures say: *'Abraham believed God, and God counted him as righteous because of his faith.’ *He was even called the friend of God.” --James 2:22, 23

1. Where in the Bible that Christians are going to escape the Great Tribulation which would contradict that we must suffer just as Jesus Christ, or carry our own crosses?

I side with you here. I believe in post Tribulation Rapture myself, and I’ve spent many a days trying to convince my sound Baptist friends to wake up …

1. How did the Bible came into one collection of books from both OT and NT, did the Bible itself declare the NT to be infallible?

Because they were inspired, the texts (or the oral traditions, in many cases) kept in circulation until God saw it fit to present his Word to us in a single volume, by means of the Catholic Church. They were but a vessel, after all.

Well many and many of the Protestant Doctrines are not Biblical because none of these questions can be answered. It is proven not only in Scripture but historical records.

Some can be addressed using Scripture; others can’t. Yet Sola Scriptura does not mean we are to ignore history and reason just because it may not be recorded in the Bible. Rather, it means that in regards to the salvation of a believer’s soul, it is all that is necessary. Tell me, if Yeshua Messiah is the very Word of God, and if you imply the Scriptures aren’t enough, are you not saying that God himself is insufficient? After all, the Scriptures delcare: believer, repent, confess, be baptized, walk in love and charity and newness of life, observing my commands, and spread the Good News of salvation to the ends of the earth! What was left uncovered?

 

[ASimpleSinner]

This is a fact and it is stated in your Catechism so maybe you should learn some about your faith. It refers to Mary as co-redemtrix which translates to a redeemer of souls equal to that of Christ.

No it does not.

To be a co-redemtrix

From: catholicsource.net/articles/coredemptrix.html
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Here’s a short description from the petition submitted to the Pope:
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When the Church invokes Mary under the title, “Coredemptrix”, she means that Mary uniquely participated in the redemption of the human family by Jesus Christ, Our Lord and Saviour. At the Annunciation (cf.Lk.1:38) Mary freely cooperated in giving the Second Person of the Trinity his human body which is the very instrument of redemption, as Scripture tells us: “We have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all” (Heb.10:10).

And at the foot of the cross of our Saviour (Jn.19:26), Mary’s intense sufferings, united with those of her Son, as Pope John Paul II tells us, were, “also a contribution to the Redemption of us all” (Salvifici Doloris, n.25). Because of this intimate sharing in the redemption accomplished by the Lord, the Mother of the Redeemer is uniquely and rightly referred to by Pope John Paul II and the Church as the “Coredemptrix.”

It is important to note that the prefix “co” in the title Coredemptrix does not mean “equal to” but rather “with”, coming from the Latin word cum. The Marian title Coredemptrix never places Mary on a level of equality with her Divine Son, Jesus Christ. Rather it refers to Mary’s unique human participation which is completely secondary and subordinate to the redeeming role of Jesus, who alone is true God and true Man.**

Mary’s role was unique. If she had said ‘no’ to Gabriel … to God, would we have a Savior, would we have our true Redeemer … our Lord … the Messiah? Mary played a definite role in our salvation. But back to the original statement … that role is entirely dependent and subordinate on Jesus. *

Bone up on your definitions of our believes before criticizing them.

 

[ASimpleSinner]

sure she did and so do I every time I carry my New International Version of the Bible to study.

Are you contending that giving birth to God - freely consenting to give Him flesh and co-operate in His plan of redemption - is the same as you carrying your Bible?

 

[ASimpleSinner]

Well then maybe you should be educating my former priest who told me word for word that slavation is not possible without Mary and say whatever you will about what the Catechesim states, but co-redemptrix is not something that could be implied scripturally.

Of course it can - for the very reasons I offered in my previous post’s citation.

He redeemed us, and she co-operated with that redemption. She said yes, her happy fiat was part of the redemption process.

As to what your former priest say. It lacks any ability to test the veracity - second hand - of what he may or may not have said to you and how you understood it or how you remember it. If you want to offer your understanding of what we definitively teach, do so without appeal to something that cannot be verified, and could have been wrong to beging with, or at least wrongly understood by you.

Otherwise, we could all make claims to have a good understanding of this that or the other things based on something someone may or may not have said to us. The earth would be no less round just because someone may have told me that once.

 

[teachccd]

No, Protestants teach that Christians are justified; i.e. declared righteous for the sake of Christ, by faith alone but that “salvation” is a much larger topic subsuming election, calling, justification, sanctification, glorification, etc.

Most Protestants teach that good works are in some sense necessary for salvation though perhaps not causatively. Rather they are absolutely necessary fruits and byproducts of the faith through which they have been justified.

So, they are necessary inasmuch as they must be there but not in the sense that they merit salvation.

Circular reasoning with the same end results…

 

[teachccd]

A moderate Catholic is someone who bothers to appreciate nuance and who tries to get an accurate understanding of the opinions of others because he isn’t afraid them.

Fair enough…just never heard anyone identified as such because our Catholic faith is not dependant upon the opinons of its members. An accurate understanding of the Magisterium as related to Scripture and Tradition is the duty of all Catholics. Any sidebars should be utilized to direct us back to the teachings of the Magisterium. I call those who deviate from these teachings protestant and I am not afraid of protestants… God Bless

 

[teachccd]

Are you contending that giving birth to God - freely consenting to give Him flesh and co-operate in His plan of redemption - is the same as you carrying your Bible?

Pretty amazing, isn’t it??