He established His Church and if He had to reform it so the gates did not prevail then He had to reform it is all I’m saying. I merely answered your question as to how others might believe they can have a relationship with God with the hope you could understand.
Why would christ have to reform the church he established? Thats all i’m saying.He established His Church and if He had to reform it so the gates did not prevail then He had to reform it is all I’m saying. I merely answered your question as to how others might believe they can have a relationship with God with the hope you could understand.
are you saying that many churches, which is contrary to what Jesus did, instead of One Church is a reform by God? please tell me you did not say this.He established His Church and if He had to reform it so the gates did not prevail then He had to reform it is all I’m saying. I merely answered your question as to how others might believe they can have a relationship with God with the hope you could understand.
Guan, are you saying that my Church is not CatholicMay God richly bless your leaning Poco! Just remember that the Catholic Church is not “Roman”.
:crying:I"m with you on that one Matt. Why would Jesus reform his own teaching? I am quite sure he got it right the first time. Jesus is perfect and so is his Church.
When you say it is all around us, do you mean all the Christian communities, even those that do not believe in the “communion of saints” and the oneness of faith?
You are quite wonderful
I’m not that Baptist preacher and disagree with his statement. I can’t do anything about your friend swallowing what he says but you can tell him that what he is saying is not that of Christ. We are to love one another not hate. As far as rejecting the church he established, I have not, the church is Christ not some church with a name. It’s the body of Christ that was established, the church is the body of Christ, he is the head of the body. It says if you believe in me, Christ, you shall have eternal life. It don’t say if you believe in the CC or anyother denomination you shall have eternal life. Where do you see that you have to be a Catholic inorder to have a personal relationship with Christ? As far as the authority part, I said I will not discuss that anymore. I’m not bashing the true church because the true church is Christ himself and I will never bash him. As far as interperating the Bible, I don’t leave it up to just some one religion to say that is what the Bible means, See back in their days it was fine because almost everyone could not read nor had a education and because of their lack of education they had no choice but to believe what they were told by the “founding fathers” because they could read and had a education. The reason they accpet it is because they don’t know any different.
If I don’t believe in some of the teachings of the CC do you really think the by opening the Cathechism will make a difference? It won’t change my mind.
Thanks rennie…
The bashing and lies that are spread about the catholic church in these parts turns my stomach!How else were they to learn if if wasn’t by word of mouth? The bible wasn’t compiled till 382 A.D. Very few people could read at that time.
Thats my point, they would have believed what they were told because they could not read it for themselves, and because of this they were not able to understand or comprehend so they had no choice but to believe what they were told it says and because of this the “founding fathers” may have taken advantage of them being illiterate and they knew they would believe anything they were told about what was written.
Great point