Where was God during the holocaust?

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Point being that atheists in power were responsible for 20+ million deaths - at their whim. Even though that is only two individuals out of tens of millions of non-believers, they are extremely effective (and not affected) at shedding blood.
 
Where were the atheists during the Holocaust?

Well, they weren’t free to assemble. Hitler banned the German Freethinkers League and German Monist League in 1933. They weren’t outwardly serving in the SS, as they had to declare themselves as either Protestant, Catholic, or general Believer in God. Now it’s possible – just like with all groups – that an atheist or a believer of any stripe could have committed those acts, but let’s not paint with so broad a brush as to ignore that there was some heat on non-believers.

And @po18guy, please don’t tell us you’re saying that Hitler was an atheist. If he was it was in conflict of numerous things he said on the matter.
 
po18guy said:
Point being that atheists in power were responsible for 20+ million deaths - at their whim. Even though that is only two individuals out of tens of millions of non-believers, they are extremely effective (and not affected) at shedding blood.
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So you’re giving a free pass to anyone in the entire history of the world who isn’t an atheist. Gee. Plus what Mike said.
 
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So, paint a picture for me. What is thre point?

Really.

Although I never met Hitler personally, he clearly and flatly rejected his Catholic heritage. The only religion I see in him is a messianic complex.

Once again, I have apparently committed the grievous error of posting at Contrary Answers Forums.

I thought only $3 watches were wound up too tight.

Not addressing anyone specific, so douse the flames, huh?
 
Wozza said:
Where on earth does this come from? And why is it repeated incessantly?
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I don’t know, but that’s what I have heard. It’s like their way of saying that a God with the knowledge and power of what is happening has the responsibility to intervene on behalf of the innocent or weaker party.
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I find it a little un-reasonable for a person who’s an unbeliever to claim that a God they don’t believe in allowed man’s inhumanity to man, when we have been given a clear moral code, which humans decided to disregard. (Kind of when people get upset about the Old Testament stories of God telling somebody to kill another person, then come to find out the complainer is actually perfectly okay with abortion and euthanasia
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The unbeliever isn’t complaining that they believe an actual God is failing to intervene. Does that make sense?
Wozza said:
All evil acts permitted by God result in a greater good.
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I would think that only if humans allow themselves play a role in that greater good. It takes forgiveness and love and compassion for our fellow humans.
 
I grew up atheist in a completely non religious family. As a teenager I experienced a great deal of trauma as both my parents died and I had to start living alone at 16. In all this trauma I started to ask, why is there still good? Why, if someone grew up with no love they would know something was missing, yet growing up in a loving family you don’t have any idea that evil is missing? The mystery of goodness in so much darkness, and the desire for goodness led me to God.
 
Wozza said:
Free will (if it exists) simply means that you are free to make your own decisions.
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True.
Wozza said:
It DOES NOT grant you right to excercise those free will decisions.
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Depends on what you mean by “right.” That would be correct if you meant legal right. But ironically, even if someone doesn’t have the right to do something, some people still do it because their free will is in play. Of course they still will inevitably reap the consequences of their actions whether they like it or not.
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Society would simply cease to exist if we all did whatever we wanted with no thought of the implications to others.
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Again, in society, we have laws. They don’t impede free will, but provide consequences for certain actions. If someone does something they legally have no right to do, they reap the consequences. It’s free will that is the reason why people are able to commit crimes in hopes they are not caught, unfortunately.
 
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