"WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE? The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President."

[ChristIsTheWay]

it is my contention that every future presidential candidate needs to prove:

1. that they are the rightful owners of all birth certificates presented (birth fingerprints or footprints must be available for comparison)
2. that their mothers are/were really their mothers (this include ultrasound, DNA and amniocentesis information); candidates born before amnios were widely available will be automatically disqualified
3. that their fathers are indeed their fathers (biological evidence will need to be submitted)
4. that they were in fact born into this world: for this purpose only time-stamped videotapes of their birth will suffice (same conditions as amnios apply)
5. that their birth announcements did not coincide with any reported UFO sightings anywhere in the world…
6. that no one associated with their conception, birth or upbringing has any association with the Alaskan facility known in The Event as Inostranka, and that all persons are documented to have aged appropriately

…feel free to contribute your personal requirements, everyone

Don’t forget to require a check of the candidate’s cellular material in order to look for any quantum flux that we all know is the tell-tale sign of a traveler from a parallel universe. After all, a parallel USA is NOT our USA.

We might also require a state of the art brain scan in order to rule out the possibility that a mind or brain transfer has occurred.

We’ll also need to rule out the possibility that the candidate isn’t really just a vessel for a demonic entity or a goa’uld parasite. Well, unless the demonic entity or the goa’uld alien parasite can prove beyond any unreasonable doubt that he/she/it was, in fact, born in the USA.

 

[estesbob]

I have always been a Lex Luthor fan myself-the real Lex Luthor-not the Gene Hackman version

 

[Big_Ro]

And yes, in interpreting language, it is pertainent to consider what people commonly
mean by term.

And no, this doesn’t take away from your point that people should have known or accepted the 2008 documents.

I’m having a little trouble squaring the circle on these two statements. On the one hand, the President should have released what would be commonly thought of as a BC in order to comply with what Seekerz has rightly pointed out are outrageous, unreasonable and unprecedented requests to prove his eligibility to serve in the WH. On the other hand, you feel that these very same people should have been able to figure out that the document that Obama released was, for all intents and purposes, a BC. Ours is a country of laws. If, in fact, the document was and is legal proof that the President was born in Hawaii why can’t people just accept it and move on. And, yes, I believe beyond a shadow of doubt that the so called short form was and is legal proof. I came to that conclusion in 2008 when I first looked in to the matter. And, BTW, I was hoping for a different conclusion, so again, don’t “label” me pro-Obama.

 

[kimmielittle]

here is something that most folks outside Hawaii won’t know-it says he was born at Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital in 1961. However, there was no such place in 1961-at the time it was called Kaukeolani Children Hospital. Not until 1978, it was merged with Kapiolani Maternity Home to become Kapiolani Hospital. So what’s wrong with this picture? You can verify the name change on hospital’s website. So in my opinion(and other people who know about this info)something aren’t right

Actually wrong.

1934

http://forums.catholic-questions.org/picture.php?albumid=1281&pictureid=8983

1952

http://forums.catholic-questions.org/picture.php?albumid=1281&pictureid=8984

1959

http://forums.catholic-questions.org/picture.php?albumid=1281&pictureid=8985

From a search through the world’s largest book archive, Google Books.

google.com/search?q=Kapiolani+Maternity+%26+Gynecological+Hospital&tbm=bks

 

[latin_rite]

Actually, some challenged John McCain’s eligibility to become president because he was born in Panama, while his father was stationed there in the US military.

That is true. But because of that, he is still eligible to run /become president.

 

[seekerz]

Don’t forget to require a check of the candidate’s cellular material in order to look for any quantum flux that we all know is the tell-tale sign of a traveler from a parallel universe. After all, a parallel USA is NOT our USA.

We might also require a state of the art brain scan in order to rule out the possibility that a mind or brain transfer has occurred.

We’ll also need to rule out the possibility that the candidate isn’t really just a vessel for a demonic entity or a goa’uld parasite. Well, unless the demonic entity or the goa’uld alien parasite can prove beyond any unreasonable doubt that he/she/it was, in fact, born in the USA.

It’s not enough for the candidate to be born in the US you have to check out the spouse too!

 

[kimmielittle]

It’s not enough for the candidate to be born in the US you have to check out the spouse too!

Ya know… There are people who legitimately have / had questions, here at CAF.

I find it offensive that you keep on in this manner.

Could you please try to contribute something productive

 

[ChristIsTheWay]

It’s not enough for the candidate to be born in the US you have to check out the spouse too!

I don’t think we should forget to conduct a thorough investigation into any personal pets as well. Those alien overlords are very, very sneaky.

 

[kimmielittle]

I don’t think we should forget to conduct a thorough investigation into any personal pets as well. Those alien overlords are very, very sneaky.

Ya know… There are people who legitimately have / had questions, here at CAF.

I find it offensive that you keep on in this manner.

Could you please try to contribute something productive

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[ChristIsTheWay]

Ya know… There are people who legitimately have / had questions, here at CAF.

I find it offensive that you keep on in this manner.

Could you please try to contribute something productive

I don’t think anything will convince the birthers that President Obama is a bona fide natural-born American citizen. I find the whole birther question to be deeply offensive. A conspiracy theory is seldom supported by real facts and the adherents thereof usually prove very resistant to any evidence to the contrary. After 59 pages of this back and forth, what would even come close to a productive contribution? But I will cease my contributions, if you feel a little humor around the issue is offensive. Be well.

 

[kimmielittle]

I don’t think anything will convince the birthers that President Obama is a bona fide natural-born American citizen. I find the whole birther question to be deeply offensive. A conspiracy theory is seldom supported by real facts and the adherents thereof usually prove very resistant to any evidence to the contrary. But I will cease my contributions, if you feel a little humor around the issue is offensive. Be well.

Have you read the thread?

Most of us here, are not “birthers”

 

[Sonic]

I’d like to make an observation about the discussion over the BC. I starting to sense that the whole debate has gone past logic with many people, and has since gone over to contest of wills. I don’t just mean people on the internet. I sense this is the same with politicians and any criticism or questions lobbed at them. I can also see this with the news media.

Many people are not even discussing facts anymore: liberal, conservative, or otherwise.

I’m seriously reminded of this scene from Star Trek the Next Generation:

youtube.com/watch?v=o_eSwq1ewsU

When it comes to serious questions and concerns about this issue and the administration, I hope it never goes away. There… are… four… lights!!!

 

[ChristIsTheWay]

Most of us here, are not “birthers”

One would hope not. Still, I don’t get the over all point or the “legitimate” questions being asked. And after almost 60 pages, I really have to wonder how productive this thread can continue to be or what, if anything, has been truly accomplished.

 

[seekerz]

Ya know… There are people who legitimately have / had questions, here at CAF.

I find it offensive that you keep on in this manner.

Could you please try to contribute something productive

Ever heard the saying that truth is stranger than fiction? There are people who genuinely believe in the existence of aliens too (I’m a History Channel fan) and I see no reason their views cannot be represented. Who’s to say they’re wrong?

 

[kimmielittle]

One would hope not. Still, I don’t get the over all point or the “legitimate” questions being asked. And after almost 60 pages, I really have to wonder how productive this thread can continue to be or what, if anything, has been truly accomplished.

Well.l.l.l… i.e. I just debunked the Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital issue. Is that valuable?

 

[seekerz]

Well.l.l.l… i.e. I just debunked the Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital issue. Is that valuable?

Who exactly decided this was an issue? An answer to who creates these “issues” and who decides what is an issue worthy of being debunked (and it’s NOT Hillary Clinton as far as I can tell) would probably be the most valuable contribution to this thread,

 

[kimmielittle]

Ever heard the saying that truth is stranger than fiction? There are people who genuinely believe in the existence of aliens too (I’m a History Channel fan) and I see no reason their views cannot be represented. Who’s to say they’re wrong?

Have people here, come off they same as who you try to associate them with?

 

[estesbob]

Who exactly decided this was an issue? An answer to who creates these “issues” and who decides what is an issue worthy of being debunked (and it’s NOT Hillary Clinton as far as I can tell) would probably be the most valuable contribution to this thread,

Obama did. If it wasnt an issue he wouldnt have released his Birth Certificate. Too bad he didnt so it when Hillary first bought it up. Could have saved a lot of trouble.

 

[Sonic]

Ya know… There are people who legitimately have / had questions, here at CAF.

I find it offensive that you keep on in this manner.

Unfortunately, you can’t communicate with people who apply this kind of logic to every post you make.

Questioning = Conspiracy Theory
Criticism = Racism
Critical Thinking = Insanity

 

[kimmielittle]

Who exactly decided this was an issue?

A poster here.

Contrary to belief…“issues” are important to the person - Or do they just apply to what you credit them?.