Which Bible says "Hail Mary, full of Grace" instead of "Hail, Highly favored one" etc?

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I wasn’t making any claim of “an agenda”. I was simply pointing out that the inclusion of Mary’s name was not Scriptural (remember, the OP was asking for a Bible version that has “Hail Mary, full of Grace.”).
I think we both can see that this was a simple error of inclusion, a conflation, by the OP.

As to the OP’s concern, Mary is not addressed as full of grace in the NAB or NAB/RE, but Saint Stephen the Martyr is. That is rather stark evidence of a problematic translation.
 
I think one needs to be careful thinking that ‘full of grace’ means being free from sin.

Interesting that the RSVCE & DR 1899 has the saying ‘full of grace’ in Luke 1:28 but it is also found in Acts 6:8 it states that Stephen is ‘full of grace’.

The RSV does not have Luke 1:28 saying ‘full of grace’, but ‘Hail, O favored one’. But in Acts 6:8 it still says that Stephen is ‘full of grace’.

NASB does not say full of grace in Luke 1:28 but it does again say in Acts 6:8 that Stephen was full of grace.

I think we need to come to the understanding that just the term ‘full of grace’ does not mean sinless.

Just my thoughts.
I’m afraid I agree with you. Her specialness comes when the Angel Gabriel** is sent from God **to locate and ask Mary for her permission to carry the Lord Jesus.
 
Because even the translation “full of grace” is itself imprecise for Luke 1:28, and in the underlying Greek there are two different phrases used to describe Mary and Stephen.

Stephen is “pleres charitos”, which is translated exactly as “full of grace” or “full of favour”.

Mary, however, is “kecharitomene”, which cannot be properly translated into English without a whole lot of awkwardness. “Kecharitomene” is a passive, perfect, vocative participle. The root is “charitos”, grace, favour. Passive means the action of being graced is being done to the subject (Mary). Perfect means that the action took place sometime in the past and effects continue on to the present. Participle means the verb is being used as a modifier, in this case, an adjective, modifying Mary. And finally, its case is vocative, which means it’s being used as a form of address, giving it the function of a title.

Translate that precisely into English and you get, “O you who were graced/favoured before and remain so even today”

“Full of grace” is close but is not precise enough because it loses the continuous sense of the perfect.

To get the full force of this phrase, you have to go to the Greek; not even the Latin captures the power of this address precisely enough, much less any English translation.
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I think its interesting that Stephen is described as “full of Grace” when he was about to become the first martyr of the Church. Not only was he willing to die, but he was doing so with an open heart forgiving those responsible. And is it a coincidence that Paul was forgiven by Stephen here? I always wished Paul directly mentioned his admiration for Stephen’s faith in his writings.

And Mary too described as “full of Grace” (or O you who were graced/favoured before and remain so even today) before Stephen and even the ministry of Christ. She was a first in the order of grace, being graced and having grace. This is a mother of all mothers in Christ.

And we don’t need to fear the Teachings regarding Mary. Jesus told the woman who was fixated on the fact that Mary merely gave birth to Jesus. Jesus wanted to let us know that we are not inferior to Mary. We are her children in the sense of receiving, nurturing, and keeping the Word of Jesus in our hearts. Also, she willingly desired her son to accomplish His mission for our sake.
 
And the Greek is a translation that may indeed have lost some of the majesty contained in the Aramaic, in which Gabriel spoke those words to Mary.

Jerome used “gratia plena” for Mary and “plenus gratia” for Stephen. An obvious difference, which could be expounded upon by Latin speakers.
While we can be reasonably sure Mary perceived the Angel’s address in Aramaic, Luke was originally written in Greek. As such, the inspired text is the Greek and therefore the Greek is authoritative.
 
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I think its interesting that Stephen is described as “full of Grace” when he was about to become the first martyr of the Church. Not only was he willing to die, but he was doing so with an open heart forgiving those responsible. And is it a coincidence that Paul was forgiven by Stephen here? I always wished Paul directly mentioned his admiration for Stephen’s faith in his writings.

And Mary too described as “full of Grace” (or O you who were graced/favoured before and remain so even today) before Stephen and even the ministry of Christ. She was a first in the order of grace, being graced and having grace. This is a mother of all mothers in Christ.

And we don’t need to fear the Teachings regarding Mary. Jesus told the woman who was fixated on the fact that Mary merely gave birth to Jesus. Jesus wanted to let us know that we are not inferior to Mary. We are her children in the sense of receiving, nurturing, and keeping the Word of Jesus in our hearts. Also, she willingly desired her son to accomplish His mission for our sake.
The “pleres charitos” of Stephen gives only an adjectival, point-in-time description of his state. It’s nothing like the vocative perfect used to address Mary.
 
The “pleres charitos” of Stephen gives only an adjectival, point-in-time description of his state. It’s nothing like the vocative perfect used to address Mary.
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I am just finding an interesting fact that we acknowledge Mary as a first in the order of grace and St Stephen as a first martyr of Christians. Mary is given a distinctive title regarding how she was, and continued to be graced, and Stephen was described as being in this state of grace at the moment of his martyrdom.
 
Because even the translation “full of grace” is itself imprecise for Luke 1:28, and in the underlying Greek there are two different phrases used to describe Mary and Stephen.

Stephen is “pleres charitos”, which is translated exactly as “full of grace” or “full of favour”.

Mary, however, is “kecharitomene”, which cannot be properly translated into English without a whole lot of awkwardness. “Kecharitomene” is a passive, perfect, vocative participle.
Not only that, but “kecharitomene” was invoked as the subject of the sentence. As far as Gabriel was concerned, the name or title of the person he was addressing was "“kecharitomene” (hence why the omission of the name “Mary” is theologically significant). “Kecharitomene” was not just an adjective, something describing Mary, but it was a term naming her, it is WHO SHE IS.
 
Not only that, but “kecharitomene” was invoked as the subject of the sentence. As far as Gabriel was concerned, the name or title of the person he was addressing was "“kecharitomene” (hence why the omission of the name “Mary” is theologically significant). “Kecharitomene” was not just an adjective, something describing Mary, but it was a term naming her, it is WHO SHE IS.
Hence the significance of the vocative. It essentially serves as her title, much like the vocative for kurios (“kyrie”) when addressed to Jesus describes what and who he is.
 
And the Greek is a translation that may indeed have lost some of the majesty contained in the Aramaic, in which Gabriel spoke those words to Mary.

Jerome used “gratia plena” for Mary and “plenus gratia” for Stephen. An obvious difference, which could be expounded upon by Latin speakers.
Yes. It was about that time the Latin was Christianized and certain words were modified to fit. Gratia, the singular form of gratias (thanks), was one of them. Cicero probably wouldn’t have had much use of “grace” as we know it today. You and I prefer to use it the way Jerome intended it to be used.

There are a list of Latin words which have different meanings in the singular vs the plural. Part of the nuance of the Latin language.
 
“Full of grace” is close but is not precise enough because it loses the continuous sense of the perfect.
Except for the fact that plena gratia is timeless, and thus lends itself to readings of a future continuation, whereas the Greek perfect refers only to the narrative moment and to time before that, saying nothing about afterwards (cf. Lk 6:25, 11:21).
 
Except for the fact that plena gratia is timeless, and thus lends itself to readings of a future continuation, whereas the Greek perfect refers only to the narrative moment and to time before that, saying nothing about afterwards (cf. Lk 6:25, 11:21).
There is nothing in the Latin to support the equivalent of the Greek perfect, or anything to imply Mary’s state in the future. Plena is merely an adjective and does not imply anything past or future. I don’t know enough about Latin to say whether plena has a tense.

But even if we were to concede the point regarding the Latin (of which I’m not convinced), the Greek is the inspired text, not the Latin, so even if the Latin were more majestic or theologically accurate (which it isn’t), the Greek still “wins.”
 
Not only that, but “kecharitomene” was invoked as the subject of the sentence. As far as Gabriel was concerned, the name or title of the person he was addressing was "“kecharitomene” (hence why the omission of the name “Mary” is theologically significant). “Kecharitomene” was not just an adjective, something describing Mary, but it was a term naming her, it is WHO SHE IS.
So noted but FWIW, I ran “χαῖρε, κεχαριτωμένη” through the Google translator and it came up with “Hail, full of grace.”

So unless anyone can show an infallible Greek-English translation of “Hail, highly favored one,” the Anglophone world will just have to live with the more common translation, using a cognate of the Latin gratia.
 
I think one needs to be careful thinking that ‘full of grace’ means being free from sin.

Interesting that the RSVCE & DR 1899 has the saying ‘full of grace’ in Luke 1:28 but it is also found in Acts 6:8 it states that Stephen is ‘full of grace’.

The RSV does not have Luke 1:28 saying ‘full of grace’, but ‘Hail, O favored one’. But in Acts 6:8 it still says that Stephen is ‘full of grace’.

NASB does not say full of grace in Luke 1:28 but it does again say in Acts 6:8 that Stephen was full of grace.

I think we need to come to the understanding that just the term ‘full of grace’ does not mean sinless.

Just my thoughts.
Acts 6:8 has “πλήρης χάριτος” not “κεχαριτωμένη” so there should be difference, but is “highly favored one” a justified translation just to be different?
 
There is nothing in the Latin to support the equivalent of the Greek perfect, or anything to imply Mary’s state in the future. Plena is merely an adjective and does not imply anything past or future. I don’t know enough about Latin to say whether plena has a tense.
Plena gratia is pretty close to πληρης χαριτος: attributive, tenseless.
the Greek is the inspired text, not the Latin, so even if the Latin were more majestic or theologically accurate (which it isn’t), the Greek still “wins.”
While I agree wholeheartedly on the preference for Greek, the question of theological accuracy depends upon whether you are talking about the situation at that moment in the narrative (i.e. the Virgin’s state of grace up to that point) or talking about the situation outside of the narrative (i.e. the Virgin’s timeless, perpetual state of grace): the Greek expresses the former; the Latin expresses the latter.
 
Acts 6:8 has “πλήρης χάριτος” not “κεχαριτωμένη” so there should be difference, but is “highly favored one” a justified translation just to be different?
As porthos11 mentions, the difference is in the “perfect” form used in κεχαρτιωμενη, the perfect being an “aspect” which places the action of the verb prior to the narrative moment, in much the same way that the English perfect system does: “he has been” as opposed to “he is”. Very literally put, Acts 6:8 has “full of grace”, while Luke 1:28 has “having been given grace”.
 
So noted but FWIW, I ran “χαῖρε, κεχαριτωμένη” through the Google translator and it came up with “Hail, full of grace.”

So unless anyone can show an infallible Greek-English translation of “Hail, highly favored one,” the Anglophone world will just have to live with the more common translation, using a cognate of the Latin gratia.
“Infallible” is not a variety in which translations come, and especially not from Google translate. As for the Anglophone world, we already live with the KJV’s “thou that art highly favoured”, which falls between the Greek “having been favoured” and the Latin “full of grace”.
 
“Infallible” is not a variety in which translations come, and especially not from Google translate. As for the Anglophone world, we already live with the KJV’s “thou that art highly favoured”, which falls between the Greek “having been favoured” and the Latin “full of grace”.
But, Latin aside, are all scholars agreed that the Greek is “having been favo(u)red” in the English and it’s the only possible translation? If Jerome knew 2014 English would he have translated it that way?
 
Most English Bibles do not state “full of Grace”.

Remember the Bible wasn’t originally written in English.

You can study the Phrase in Greek if you wish. Just Google it.

Full of Grace doesn’t necessarily mean sinless.
Only Christ was sinless.

Whether or not Mary was sinless is debate that will never end.
Believe what you feel comfortable with. It doesn’t matter.

Salvation is through your faith in Christ’s Resurrection not Mary’s conduct in her life. Rom 10:9

Mary is not “Queen of Heaven”. There is only one true God in Heaven, on Earth, and anywhere else.

Hosea 13:4
Yet I am the Lord thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.
 
That would be the Revised Standard Version - Catholic Edition. I’m not sure if any other Catholic translations use the words “full of grace” or not.

And he came to her and said, “Hail full of Grace, the Lord is with you!”
(Luke 1:28 RSV-CE)
 
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