Which denominations are most hostile to Catholicism?

[CatherineofA]

Boy, does this topic bring back memories. I grew up Southern Baptist (still am) and there was a very strong anti-Catholic tone to my church. I was very interested in medieval and 16th century era England and always thought I was more informed about what Catholicism was and thought history didn’t support the need for the venom.

Classic tip-If you ever get into a discussion with someone with these attitudes discuss history with them. Most of the don’t know it and it’s out of left field for them.

 

[ChristianKnight]

This is a valid point ChristianKnight.

Have you yourself ever encountered anti-Catholicism? Outside of the SB of course since you have already said you have never seen AC in any Church you have been a member of.

God bless

No, my friend is dating a Catholic (he isn’t a actual catholic, what does that mean? He hasn’t been to mass in over a year, when a person takes responsibility to call him/her self, I believe she/he should abide by the rules that are made so that person makes themselves what they call themselves) and she is gonna have a Catholic Wedding. I was against it and told her not to give up her beliefs for anyone, but she doesn’t really know a difference.

 

[Inman]

The Southern Baptist Convention is a loose association of congregations. Within very wide parameters, each church an each individual can believe what it wants. So it is not really fair to attribute one individual church or person’s anti-catholic beliefs to all.

I was raised a Southern Baptist. It was a verry small church in a working class neighborhood with mostly older residents. I think I only heard one anti-catholic comment from the pulpit. Though he was an interim pastor and had some funny ideas on race as well.

On the other end of the spectrum, my Catholic Parish has a big event at thanksgiving where we work with the largest Southern Baptist church in town to feed the homeless.

Catholic and Baptists have different beliefs. So I don’t think it is bigotry or animus to talk about those beliefs. Even if those beliefs consider what the other group does is wrong. It also goes both ways. For example, the Vatican pronoucment the the protestant communities are Churches., in the sense that catholics use that word.

 

[Cinette]

The Southern Baptist Convention is a loose association of congregations. Within very wide parameters, each church an each individual can believe what it wants. So it is not really fair to attribute one individual church or person’s anti-catholic beliefs to all.

I was raised a Southern Baptist. It was a verry small church in a working class neighborhood with mostly older residents. I think I only heard one anti-catholic comment from the pulpit. Though he was an interim pastor and had some funny ideas on race as well.

On the other end of the spectrum, my Catholic Parish has a big event at thanksgiving where we work with the largest Southern Baptist church in town to feed the homeless.

Catholic and Baptists have different beliefs. So I don’t think it is bigotry or animus to talk about those beliefs. Even if those beliefs consider what the other group does is wrong. It also goes both ways. For example, the Vatican pronoucment the the protestant communities are Churches., in the sense that catholics use that word.

I don’t understand your last sentance.

 

[dianaiad]

i think the southern baptists by far the most hostile. the various evangelical fundamentalists next followed by the cult types (JW, SDA, LDS)

the “protestants” (anglicans, lutherans, etc.) seemed to have mellowed out over the years.

uhm…

The CoJCoLDS is not hostile to Catholicism. We don’t think you are RIGHT, of course…but we work with Catholics a great deal; Catholic Charities and the LDS welfare services work together very closely. If the Catholics need help in any town, or parish, and something is going to take more people than they have, the Mormons will step in to help when nobody else will.

The Pope comes to visit? The Mormons will set up the chairs and handle security for you. You have a youth camp to run? The Mormons will help you deal with the physical problems. You have a church building fall down or need major repairs? The Mormons will help you fix it.

Hostile? Not even close. I’m not going to pretend we don’t want to CONVERT the lot of you, but then you’d like to do the same to us, so…

‘hostile?’

Not so much, no.

 

[dianaiad]

Where is your proof for Southern Baptists being Anti-Catholic?

Oh…Southern Baptists have a great many publications out there, some of which are very much anti-Catholic. Go to the SBC website and search “Catholic” and you will find quite a few publications (polite and not so polite) arguing against Catholic doctrines, traditions and scriptures. Then do a search for “Pope…” and the first item on the list is “They’re back…the Pope and indulgences.”

Interesting. I only read one of the articles, a very polite discussion of the differences between Catholicism and Southern Baptist beliefs. This actually agreed with the Catholics on the Trinity…but then got downright (albeit very politely) nasty about the apocrypha, Mary, the saints and a bunch of the traditions.

Now I don’t know enough about Catholicism to defend it against the authors of this piece, except that I know enough about how Catholics feel about Mary to understand that the authors got THAT wrong. I wonder what else they got wrong?

The thing is, there are more publications about Catholicism than there are about Mormonism–and nobody can claim that the SBC is not hostile to Mormonism.

What I’d like to see him do is provide proof that the LDS church (Mormonism) is ‘hostile’ to Catholics.

Like…where are the anti-Catholic publications?
Where are the picketers at Catholic events?
Where are the shouters at Catholic services?

Why, the Baptists provide these in plenty.
Don’t see any Mormons doing this sort of thing, though.

 

[CatherineofA]

I think Catholics and Protestants are correct when they are harsh against the teachings of the Mormons. Most of what they teach are completely contrary to traditional Christianity and Biblical standpoints.

To name a few-

1. God had sex with Mary.
2. Jesus is the brother of Satan
3. God was once like man.
4. The trinity is three separate gods.
5. Human men will eventually populate their own planets.

Catholic.com lists them in the non Christian area-
catholic.com/library/noncatholic_groups.asp

If you go into almost any Christian bookstore, books on them are in the cults section.

 

[Bill_Pick]

You Are So Right I Learn About Them From A Book I Got From A Friend Called ;a Christian Looks At Mormonism

 

[CB_Catholic]

In my experience, I have found that some of the most vehement anti-Catholicism comes from ex-Catholics.

In contrast, some of the most vocal defenders of Catholicism are ex-Protestants, but they don’t seem to hold the same animosity against Protestantism that many ex-Catholics hold against Catholicism.

 

[dianaiad]

I think Catholics and Protestants are correct when they are harsh against the teachings of the Mormons. Most of what they teach are completely contrary to traditional Christianity and Biblical standpoints.

To name a few-

1. God had sex with Mary.
2. Jesus is the brother of Satan
3. God was once like man.
4. The trinity is three separate gods.
5. Human men will eventually populate their own planets.

Catholic.com lists them in the non Christian area-
catholic.com/library/noncatholic_groups.asp

If you go into almost any Christian bookstore, books on them are in the cults section.

I know.

I DID tell you the story about how my twelve year old daughter was physically shoved out of a Christian book store because the clerk saw her CTR ring and knew she was a Mormon because of it, didn’t I?

The clerk pushed her out of the store, yelling “Mormons are not Christian and have no business in a Christian store!”

By the way, that list of beliefs you claim we have?

Most of 'em are either just plain wrong or presented sideways.

(shrug) not that it matters; I’m just sayin’, is all.

 

[CatherineofA]

I know.

I DID tell you the story about how my twelve year old daughter was physically shoved out of a Christian book store because the clerk saw her CTR ring and knew she was a Mormon because of it, didn’t I?

The clerk pushed her out of the store, yelling “Mormons are not Christian and have no business in a Christian store!”

By the way, that list of beliefs you claim we have?

Most of 'em are either just plain wrong or presented sideways.

(shrug) not that it matters; I’m just sayin’, is all.

No Mormon should be asked to leave a Christian bookstore unless they are attempting to start argumentative discussions or disturb the peace in the store. Not being there, I can’t say what the context of the situation was that put her in the position to be escorted out.

As far as the beliefs you argue are wrong or distorted, they are correct. The problem is is that Mormons attempt to ‘hide’ their beliefs with genealogy and love of family while having core beliefs that are contrary to Christianity. In addition, many, which could include yourself, are ignorant of many issues involving their faith. Catholics and Protestants may disagree on many issues, but both recognize that Mormonism isn’t Christianity. Just read the Catholic link for information that was posted above in my previous post or the articles at the bottom of this link.
watchman.org/lds/index.htm

In fact, an appeals court ruled on 10/9/2008 that the Mormon church was outside of the Protestant faith.

 

[Cinette]

In my experience, I have found that some of the most vehement anti-Catholicism comes from ex-Catholics.

In contrast, some of the most vocal defenders of Catholicism are ex-Protestants, but they don’t seem to hold the same animosity against Protestantism that many ex-Catholics hold against Catholicism.

Those ex-Catholics no doubt turned against the Church because the Church would not bent to their desires and they were, in all probability, not sufficiently catachised.

 

[CB_Catholic]

Those ex-Catholics no doubt turned against the Church because the Church would not bent to their desires and they were, in all probability, not sufficiently catachised.

Oh, I quite agree. It is just the vehemence that surprises me, whereas I don’t see that so much in those coming from Protestantism into the Catholic Church.

 

[dianaiad]

No Mormon should be asked to leave a Christian bookstore unless they are attempting to start argumentative discussions or disturb the peace in the store. Not being there, I can’t say what the context of the situation was that put her in the position to be escorted out.

I’m sorry, but…no. I’ve already told this story. My daughter was in there to purchase a ‘Shakespeare bible,’ a KJV that had been cross referenced to Shakespeare’s plays. I wasn’t there; a local Baptist minister was, and he was the one who told me about it when I came to pick my daughter up. She was simply upset, confused and frightened. She’d never run into anything like that before. She has since, of course.

As far as the beliefs you argue are wrong or distorted, they are correct. The problem is is that Mormons attempt to ‘hide’ their beliefs with genealogy and love of family while having core beliefs that are contrary to Christianity. In addition, many, which could include yourself, are ignorant of many issues involving their faith.

I see. I’m 59 years old. I’ve been a missionary. I’ve been through the Temple. I took 4 years of seminary in high school, 4 years of “Institute” in college, and have studied my own religion for considerably over 30 years in addition.Do you have a clue how odd it is for any non-Mormon to claim that they know more than I do about my own religion? It would be like me telling you that I know more about Catholicism than you do because I have read everything that any Baptist has ever written about it.

Catholics and Protestants may disagree on many issues, but both recognize that Mormonism isn’t Christianity. Just read the Catholic link for information that was posted above in my previous post or the articles at the bottom of this link.
watchman.org/lds/index.htm

In fact, an appeals court ruled on 10/9/2008 that the Mormon church was outside of the Protestant faith.

Oh, none of us claim that we are Protestants. We simply claim that we are Christians. We are. We aren’t Catholics, we aren’t Protestants. But we are Christians.

 

[CB_Catholic]

I know.

I DID tell you the story about how my twelve year old daughter was physically shoved out of a Christian book store because the clerk saw her CTR ring and knew she was a Mormon because of it, didn’t I?

The clerk pushed her out of the store, yelling “Mormons are not Christian and have no business in a Christian store!”

By the way, that list of beliefs you claim we have?

Most of 'em are either just plain wrong or presented sideways.

(shrug) not that it matters; I’m just sayin’, is all.

What a horrible example of religious bigotry and self-righteousness! I am so sorry your daughter had to be exposed to this at such a young age. And that clerk should not have even touched your daughter. Did you complain to anyone about this?

 

[dianaiad]

What a horrible example of religious bigotry and self-righteousness! I am so sorry your daughter had to be exposed to this at such a young age. And that clerk should not have even touched your daughter. Did you complain to anyone about this?

Well, yeah. A couple of days later I went to the ‘head’ store of the area and insisted upon talking to the manager. I explained what happened and asked that the situation be handled. I gave them the name of the minister who witnessed it. I was given a blank stare, an apology that ‘things got out of hand,’ and then was told that he didn’t understand why I sent my daughter into a Christian bookstore; there wasn’t anything in there that could possibly interest a Mormon.

That Baptist minister handled the issue just fine. He took care of my daughter until I got there, offered to let her borrow a copy of that “Shakespeare Bible” from his church library, and then offered to let any Mormon who felt uncomfortable at this “Sign of the Fish” bookstore to use his catalogs/books. For the next ten years or so things were pretty neat between that Baptist congregation and the Mormons; they would play softball on our field, we would have cookouts on theirs. We would fix the roof on their small chapel, they would plant trees with us.

So it worked out fine…I remember it more vividly than my daughter does. But then later she was a missionary in Rio de Janiero: she has far more interesting stories to tell than that!

 

[BareKnuckler]

Oh…Southern Baptists have a great many publications out there, some of which are very much anti-Catholic. Go to the SBC website and search “Catholic” and you will find quite a few publications (polite and not so polite) arguing against Catholic doctrines, traditions and scriptures. Then do a search for “Pope…” and the first item on the list is “They’re back…the Pope and indulgences.”

Interesting. I only read one of the articles, a very polite discussion of the differences between Catholicism and Southern Baptist beliefs. This actually agreed with the Catholics on the Trinity…but then got downright (albeit very politely) nasty about the apocrypha, Mary, the saints and a bunch of the traditions.

Now I don’t know enough about Catholicism to defend it against the authors of this piece, except that I know enough about how Catholics feel about Mary to understand that the authors got THAT wrong. I wonder what else they got wrong?

The thing is, there are more publications about Catholicism than there are about Mormonism–and nobody can claim that the SBC is not hostile to Mormonism.

What I’d like to see him do is provide proof that the LDS church (Mormonism) is ‘hostile’ to Catholics.

Like…where are the anti-Catholic publications?
Where are the picketers at Catholic events?
Where are the shouters at Catholic services?

Why, the Baptists provide these in plenty.
Don’t see any Mormons doing this sort of thing, though.

Just because they argue against your doctrine doesn’t make them Anti-Catholic. That makes them Non-Catholic.

Maybe they believe worshipping Jesus alone instead of thinking they need someone to help them talk to him? Just a thought.

 

[dianaiad]

Just because they argue against your doctrine doesn’t make them Anti-Catholic. That makes them Non-Catholic.

Maybe they believe worshipping Jesus alone instead of thinking they need someone to help them talk to him? Just a thought.

No…actually not believing the doctrine makes them 'non-Catholic."

Actively publishing articles ‘exposing’ Catholicism (especially when they don’t represent the doctrines they argue against correctly) to their own members and to other people…that is what makes them anti-Catholic.

Or to put it another way: not believing that asking Mary for intercession with her Son is required? That is being non-Catholic. Making a snarky comment about “thinking they need someone to help them talk to him”…that’s anti-Catholic.

Ok, as a bit of anti-Catholicism it’s pretty mild, but you can see the difference.

 

[BareKnuckler]

No…actually not believing the doctrine makes them 'non-Catholic."

Actively publishing articles ‘exposing’ Catholicism (especially when they don’t represent the doctrines they argue against correctly) to their own members and to other people…that is what makes them anti-Catholic.

Or to put it another way: not believing that asking Mary for intercession with her Son is required? That is being non-Catholic. Making a snarky comment about “thinking they need someone to help them talk to him”…that’s anti-Catholic.

Ok, as a bit of anti-Catholicism it’s pretty mild, but you can see the difference.

I am Anti-Catholic. I know this cause a Catholic told me so.

Of course, if you consider comments anti, then I am anti just about anything you can think of religion wise, especially atheists and scientologists.

 

[CatherineofA]

I’m sorry, but…no. I’ve already told this story. My daughter was in there to purchase a ‘Shakespeare bible,’ a KJV that had been cross referenced to Shakespeare’s plays. I wasn’t there; a local Baptist minister was, and he was the one who told me about it when I came to pick my daughter up. She was simply upset, confused and frightened. She’d never run into anything like that before. She has since, of course.

I see. I’m 59 years old. I’ve been a missionary. I’ve been through the Temple. I took 4 years of seminary in high school, 4 years of “Institute” in college, and have studied my own religion for considerably over 30 years in addition.Do you have a clue how odd it is for any non-Mormon to claim that they know more than I do about my own religion? It would be like me telling you that I know more about Catholicism than you do because I have read everything that any Baptist has ever written about it.

Oh, none of us claim that we are Protestants. We simply claim that we are Christians. We are. We aren’t Catholics, we aren’t Protestants. But we are Christians.

The fact that this very site places Mormonism in the non Christian group of religions and that Protestants have ministries dedicated to refuting the cult of Mormonism speaks volumes.

1. You think that a star called Kalob is nearest the throne of God.
2. You don’t believe in the trinity. You think the world has three separate deities.
3. Men and women can become gods and goddesses.
   The ultimate goal of a Mormon is to become a deity through a process of exaltation. Lorenzo Snow stated: “As man is, God once was; as God is, man may become.”
   Brigham Young stated: “The Lord created you and me for the purpose of becoming Gods like Himself.”
4. Baptism by proxy-Through the process of vicarious ordinances, a Mormon’s dead, non-Mormon ancestors can be baptized by proxy into the church. They believe that such baptism gives their ancestors the choice to join, or reject, the Mormon faith. This can result in the growth of the Mormon’s family in the Celestial Kingdom. The doctrines of eternal families and eternal marriage are closely related to this work for the dead. Hundreds of millions of ancestors have been so processed.

In this article at Catholic Online, the Vatican warns against the baptism of the dead. It ordered Bishops to not allow Parish records to be given to genealogical societies of the Mormon Church.

catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=27825

1. Jesus came to the Americas and mingled with the natives. Artwork in the LDS churches show Jesus with them.

Any religion that adds to the Bible and church tradition is heresy. Catholics, the Orthodox, and Protestants see you as a cult. If you had a Baptist church sharing with you, it wasn’t for their recognition of truth.