Which is the greater sin, fornication or abortion?

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how’s an unwed mother compared with married couples who have abortions?
 
Abortion is MURDER! You’re making someone pay with their LIFE for your mortal sin… I don’t see how it’s even comprable!!!
 
What is the point here–a popularity contest for grave mortal sins?!? Are you planning to advocate one over the other in the event there is a “winner?”
 
the point is clear. if most people think fornification is more sinful, unwed pregnant girls are most likely to have an abortion to hide fornification from public. but if abortion is viewed as the greater sin, those who pregnant will not abort. And I’m glad no one until now has voted fornication.
If unmarried women who pregrant (govs will not wait until the child is born I guess) are stoned to death as it is in Islamic country, then it is perhaps less evil to have an abortion.
 
unwed mothers do not have abortions because of their belief in the sinfulness (or not) of fornication. spend some time volunteering in a crisis pregnancy center or any other pro-life ministry and get a reality check. I suggest Birthright.
 
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abcdefg:
how’s an unwed mother compared with married couples who have abortions?
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Both can be mortal[if you meet the criteria for mortal sin], therefore both can possibly send someone to Hell. IF the end result is the same, how you get there is irrelevent, therefore they are equal.
if a = x and b = x then a = b, i can’t remember what math thingy[Logic maybe, er Discreet Math] that is called, maybe a math guru could identify that for me…😉

May the Peace of the Lord be with you,
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unwed mothers do not have abortions because of their belief in the sinfulness (or not) of fornication.
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Quite a few unwed mother have had abortions because of the potential shame that would come on them if word ‘got out’ that she was pregnant. Whether wories about peers or parents, fear and shame ARE motivators.

Perhaps this was the point of the poll starter. However, my observation has been that the Church and society have come a long way from the days of ostracizing unwed mothers towards celebrating and supporting their decision for life, if not the situation that brought it about.
 
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TheGarg:
IF the end result is the same, how you get there is irrelevent, therefore they are equal.
if a = x and b = x then a = b, i can’t remember what math thingy
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If a=b and b=c then the Transitive Law says a=c.

If you want to do stuff like swap sides…If a=b then b=a, you invoke the symmetric law.

Let’s have fun and make equivalence classes of sins and partition the set of all sins! (Pug=Math Loon)
 
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gus:
I presumed fornication does not envolve adultery.
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I thought that fornication was any sex when you’re not married to the person…

Either way, I think both are mortal sins in the eyes of God. Both can result badly for a child.
 
Strange question. Obviously, abortion is the greater evil but both acts with the required intention, are gravely serious. Abortion is typically the result of fornication most of the time.

We must pray for purity in our youth. Is not the pile of the dead and broken bodies created by this culture high enough yet?
 
I don’t believe all mortal sins are equal. there’re different punishment in hell, for different sins. if an unwed mother and a women who performed both fornification and abortion die without confession, who’ll be punished more in hell? suppose in this world every kind of offence, no matter theft or serial killing, are all punished with the same death penalty. there’s every reason for criminals to commit the biggest crime possible.
 
Speaking of death,

My cousin was pregnant, went in for a checkup and they said the fetus didn’t have a heart beat. It had been dead for a couple weeks. She was so sad.

They did the same procedure they do for abortions at that point.
Technically she had an abortion, that is she aborted a dead fetus. Is everyone on this board going to hate her?
 
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zootjeff:
Speaking of death,

My cousin was pregnant, went in for a checkup and they said the fetus didn’t have a heart beat. It had been dead for a couple weeks. She was so sad.

They did the same procedure they do for abortions at that point.
Technically she had an abortion, that is she aborted a dead fetus. Is everyone on this board going to hate her?
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Are you kidding? I ache for her, that had to be horrific… And, using an abortive procedure to take out the baby was unecessary, there are other ways… The baby was already dead… It wasn’t her decision for it to die.
 
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zootjeff:
Speaking of death,

My cousin was pregnant, went in for a checkup and they said the fetus didn’t have a heart beat. It had been dead for a couple weeks. She was so sad.
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They did the same procedure they do for abortions at that point.
Technically she had an abortion, that is she aborted a dead fetus. Is everyone on this board going to hate her?
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NO!

How can you even ask that question? If you really think that people might say “yes,” then you misunderstand both pro-life philosophy AND Christianity.

I think it’s safe to say that every Christian on the planet who is not suffering from some severe mental disease would have nothing but sympathy for your cousin. That is a tragic story… I’m sure I won’t be the only one to pray for your cousin.

We are not against anything that doctors choose to call “abortion.” Technical definitions don’t matter: life matters. This is why people who are pro-life tend to be against contraceptives that prevent implantation, even though the AMA’s definition of “abortion” means termination after implantation. We oppose abortion becuase it causes a human being to die. Your cousin’s child had already passed away.

Obviously your cousin did nothing wrong. And even if she HAD, it is our duty to love her no matter what.
 
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TheGarg:
…IF the end result is the same, how you get there is irrelevent, therefore they are equal…
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By the “end result” I assume you mean hell. However I think there are different levels of punishment in hell. A person who might be responsible for the murder of millions is probably worse off there than someone who stole cars for a living. So I don’t think it’s correct to say they’re equal. Of course all this assumes that people who are there died unrepentant and consequently unforgiven.
 
Abortion because it snuffs out an innocent human life. Both are grave sins which rob the soul of the sanctifying grace necessary to remain in complete fellowship with God and with the Church.
 
abortion is worse because it has a spirtual damage and results in a physical death. BUT that does not mean that fornication is OK by comparison.
 
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abcdefg:
I don’t believe all mortal sins are equal. there’re different punishment in hell, for different sins. if an unwed mother and a women who performed both fornification and abortion die without confession, who’ll be punished more in hell? suppose in this world every kind of offence, no matter theft or serial killing, are all punished with the same death penalty. there’s every reason for criminals to commit the biggest crime possible.
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This is inconsistent with Catholic Doctrine which says that hell is the eternal separation from God. (CCC 1035). There are no degrees of separation or differences in time limits. We do not believe in multiple levels of hell as found in Greek mythology.

The Church does teach that some sins are more grave than others. I once heard someone compare it to falling off a cliff. Once you’ve gone over the edge, it’s irrelevent to your fate whether you walked, ran or jumped off. (Thankfully, Jesus gave us the sacrament of Reconciliation to catch us before we crash in every situation.)
 
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