While Europe Slept

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LRThunder:
That’s a two way street. Understanding has to come from the Islamic world as well, or else it’s a pointless gesture and won’t get anywhere.
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submission.org/terrorism.html
groups.colgate.edu/aarislam/response.htm
allaahuakbar.net/us/index.htm kinda conspiracy theorist though but some real good facts
islamdenouncesterrorism.com/mainarticle.html
 
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pro_universal:
By bashing muslims, by publishing offensive cartoons, or by dropping more bombs?
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By blaming America, publishing offensive Jewish cartoons, trying to intimidate non-muslims a world away, proclaiming the eradication of Isreal.

Imagine if George Bush said “Lets eradicate Iran and Syria. Lets take them oil fields. Lets use nook-leer weapons on Mecca.”

Imagine if Americans started protesting muslims burning American flags the same way muslims protested the cartoons.

Imagine if American cities erupted in anti-Islamic protests the next time some U.S. citizen gets beheaded.

Imagine if the U.S. population reacted to any percieved insult or offense the way the muslim population reacts.
 
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onesimplemind:
By blaming America, publishing offensive Jewish cartoons, trying to intimidate non-muslims a world away, proclaiming the eradication of Isreal.

Imagine if George Bush said “Lets eradicate Iran and Syria. Lets take them oil fields. Lets use nook-leer weapons on Mecca.”

Imagine if Americans started protesting muslims burning American flags the same way muslims protested the cartoons.

Imagine if American cities erupted in anti-Islamic protests the next time some U.S. citizen gets beheaded.

Imagine if the U.S. population reacted to any percieved insult or offense the way the muslim population reacts.
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We’re not that far off. Instead of rioting, our government sells weapons, invades countries, and funds dictators who will sell oil cheaply.

Is that any less damaging than the protests and other crimes of the radical islamists?
 
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pro_universal:
We’re not that far off. Instead of rioting, our government sells weapons, invades countries, and funds dictators who will sell oil cheaply.
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And you don’t think that muslims countries would do the same thing?

You mean Pakistani scientist don’t sell nuclear technology?

You mean the U.S.A. just invaded muslim lands to conquer, pillage, and dhimmitize the inhabitants.

You mean that Saddam and Iran along with a whole lot of muslim organizations don’t fund terrorists?
 
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onesimplemind:
And you don’t think that muslims countries would do the same thing?

You mean Pakistani scientist don’t sell nuclear technology?

You mean the U.S.A. just invaded muslim lands to conquer, pillage, and dhimmitize the inhabitants.

You mean that Saddam and Iran along with a whole lot of muslim organizations don’t fund terrorists?
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Saddam and Iran received weapons, money, and training from the United States in the past.

The Pakistani scientist sold nuclear technology just like the United States did.

And yes, the US has aided and abetted people who conquer and pillage the muslims.

As an aside, this idea of yours that “they would do injustice if they had the power to!” does not justify us in behaving unjustly ourselves. That very notion is about as close to a flat out rejection of Christian teaching as you can get.
 
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pro_universal:
Saddam and Iran received weapons, money, and training from the United States in the past.

The Pakistani scientist sold nuclear technology just like the United States did.

And yes, the US has aided and abetted people who conquer and pillage the muslims.

As an aside, this idea of yours that “they would do injustice if they had the power to!” does not justify us in behaving unjustly ourselves. That very notion is about as close to a flat out rejection of Christian teaching as you can get.
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  1. The Palestinians (muslims) and Egyptians (muslims) recieve money today. Don’t forget about all the help given to Indonesia (muslims).
  2. Who did the U.S. sell nuclear secrets to?
  3. Who did the U.S. aid and abett? Milosevich?
A rejection of Christianity is being an apologist for Islamic hypocrisy. If Islam is so high and noble and condemns terror. How come I haven’t seen any muslim protests with bin Laden burning in effigy? How come the only muslims that protest against terror are the ones in Iraq?
 
  1. Yeah, and look how much good the money does them. It goes straight into the coffers of cronies who do not care about the interest of the people they govern.
  2. Israel
  3. Saddam, the Iranian regime, Saudi Arabia, Nasser, Sadat, and Israel.
How come I haven’t seen any muslim protests with bin Laden burning in effigy? How come the only muslims that protest against terror are the ones in Iraq?
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Because we dropped bombs instead of burning posters.
 
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1. Yeah, and look how much good the money does them. It goes straight into the coffers of cronies who do not care about the interest of the people they govern.
  1. Israel
  2. Saddam, the Iranian regime, Saudi Arabia, Nasser, Sadat, and Israel.
Because we dropped bombs instead of burning posters.
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  1. I wonder why, its not like Haliburton was around. You mean muslim cronies.
  2. I could have sworn that Isreal was the first attacked. I could have sworn that hardly anyone in the Middle East recognizes Isreal’s right to exist. Time to stand up for the little guy.
  3. So who should we deal with diplomatically? Or should we? I wonder why the Isrealis can’t just “conquer” anyone. Maybe because a greater power has reason to keep Isreal from retaliating against anybody.
Americans burned Bush in effigy 3000 times more than what any muslim does. Americans burned Bush in effigy way more times BEFORE 9-11 than any muslim burned any terrorist in effigy.

Maybe we should just grab our ankles, bend over, and take it when an Islamic terrorist strikes eh? If an American city gets hit hard, its because we “had it coming” right? I can already tell you are a “blame America first guy”, and a “western civilization’s got to go” guy.

I am starting to suspect you are a muslim in disguise. Tiqqiya
 
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onesimplemind:
Wow I guess thats why I rarely see muslims burning Osama bin Laden effigies?
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because you are ignorant and you want to see only things that suits your distorted views.
 
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Muslim:
because you are ignorant and you want to see only things that suits your distorted views.
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So are you telling me there are Islamic protests that burn Osama in effigy?
 
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onesimplemind:
So are you telling me there are Islamic protests that burn Osama in effigy?
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there have been PLENTY of protests where Muslims demonstrated their dislike for Osama bin Laden.In fact, few days ago 20 “Islamic terrorist” were sentenced to death… in an Islamic country…

foxnews.com/story/0,2933,150066,00.html from foxnews no less.
home.wlu.edu/~lubint/islamonWTC.htm
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islamfortoday.com/murad04.htm

there are countless others…
 
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Muslim:
there have been PLENTY of protests where Muslims demonstrated their dislike for Osama bin Laden.In fact, few days ago 20 “Islamic terrorist” were sentenced to death… in an Islamic country…

foxnews.com/story/0,2933,150066,00.html from foxnews no less.
home.wlu.edu/~lubint/islamonWTC.htm
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islamfortoday.com/murad04.htm

there are countless others…
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Tiqqiya. Those were after terrorist attacks in a non-muslim country. Those protests were meant to calm the rage and mitigate the possibility of retaliation. Those don’t fool me. I want to see a protest in real muslim-controlled lands.

And I bet I can count them very easily.
 
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onesimplemind:
Tiqqiya. Those were after terrorist attacks in a non-muslim country. Those protests were meant to calm the rage and mitigate the possibility of retaliation. Those don’t fool me. I want to see a protest in real muslim-controlled lands.

And I bet I can count them very easily.
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in Egypt
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Where is the burning bin Laden?

Thats all tiqqiya until I see a bin Laden BBQ.
 
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onesimplemind:
Where is the burning bin Laden?

Thats all tiqqiya until I see a bin Laden BBQ.
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wow… why arent Americans burning effigies of bin laden? does that mean America supports bin Laden? how come you are not burning effigies of bin laden? do you support bin laden? i think so
 
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onesimplemind:
Where is the burning bin Laden?

Thats all tiqqiya until I see a bin Laden BBQ.
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That’s ridiculous. A 500,000 person faux protest???

Come on, you’re stretching it now
 
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Muslim:
wow… why arent Americans burning effigies of bin laden? does that mean America supports bin Laden? how come you are not burning effigies of bin laden? do you support bin laden? i think so
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Bombs do a much better job than burning effigies.As many as it takes.
 
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