White House Defends New Benghazi Email

[RACJ]

I can call you Betty, and Betty when you call me, call me Al. :whackadoo:

Do you act in a childish manner every time four people are massacred, or just THIS time, to rationalize wretched and negligent behavior by your “team”?

 

[TaurusRex]

foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/01/top-republican-challenges-intelligence-official-benghazi-testimony/

“BG Lovell did not serve in a capacity that gave him reliable insight into operational options available to commanders during the attack, nor did he offer specific courses of action not taken,” McKeon said in a statement.
He added: “We have no evidence that Department of State officials delayed the decision to deploy what few resources DoD had available to respond.”

So much for BG Lovell’s opinion. :yawn:

rex

 

[SuperLuigi]

Obama lied, Hillary lied, Susan Rice lied. And you bet it’s going to haunt Hillary when she decides to run.

The GOP is going to need a lot more than that. The checks sent out to people by the left and the DC elite are quite effective in buffering that impact.

 

[SuperLuigi]

I think this is a cover-up not only by the Executive Branch, but also by the mainstream American media.

But I guess now it’s safe for them to ask Carney, meh, somewhat tough questions now that Obama has been re-elected and November 2014 is still a ways off.

 

[TaurusRex]

wnd.com/2013/05/what-did-obama-do-on-9112012/

At 3:40 p.m. Washington time on Sept. 11, 2012, U.S. ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens in Benghazi called his No. 2 man, Greg Hicks, and told him, “We’re under attack.”
(All times cited will be EDT, six hours earlier than Libyan time).
At 4:05 p.m. the State Department Operations Center issued an alert to all relevant agencies, “U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi Under Attack.”
At 4:25 p.m. a six-member CIA team headed by Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods arrived at Stevens’ compound from the nearby annex.
Under heavy fire, Woods’ team recovered the body of Foreign Service IT specialist Sean Smith but could not find Stevens’ body in the burning building.
At 5 p.m. President Barack Obama had a pre-scheduled meeting with Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, who briefed him on the Benghazi situation.
At 6 p.m. Woods and his CIA team arrived back at the annex, which they would defend Alamo-style for the next six hours. They would kill an estimated 60 Libyans before the night was through.
At 6:07 p.m. the State Department Operations Center shared a report from the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli that Ansar al-Sharia had claimed responsibility for the Benghazi attack. The terror group also called for an attack on the Embassy in Tripoli.

whitehouse.gov/schedule/president/2012-09-11

Tuesday, September 11 2012
All Times ET
Next
8:45 am The President and the First Lady observe a moment of silence to mark the 11th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks
South Lawn
Pooled Press
(Pre-set 8:00AM – Gather Time 8:30AM – North Doors of the Palm Room)
9:10 am The President and the First Lady depart from the White House to the Pentagon Memorial
Press Information
In-Town Travel Pool Coverage (In-Town Travel Pool Gather Time 9:00AM – North Doors of the Palm Room)
9:30 am The President and the First Lady attend September 11th Observance Ceremony
The Pentagon Memorial
Press Information
In-Town Travel Pool Coverage
11:30 am The President and the First Lady return to the White House
Press Information
In-Town Travel Pool Coverage
1:55 pm The President arrives Bethesda, Maryland
Press Information
In-Town Travel Pool Coverage (In-Town Travel Pool Gather 12:10PM – North Doors of the Palm Room)
2:15 pm The President visits the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center
Bethesda, Maryland
Closed Press
4:40 pm The President departs Bethesda, Maryland en route the White House
Press Information
In-Town Travel Pool Coverage
4:50 pm The President arrives at the White House
South Lawn
Open Press
(Final Gather 4:30PM – North Doors of the Palm Room)
5:00 pm The President and the Vice President meet with Secretary of Defense
Oval Office
Closed Press

For those concerned with the president’s whereabouts on 9/11/2012 at ~2:45 pm, keep in mind that at ~2:45 pm Thursday in Washington DC, it was ~9:45 pm Thursday in Benghazi.

rex

 

[Havard]

Do you act in a childish manner every time four people are massacred, or just THIS time, to rationalize wretched and negligent behavior by your “team”?

Huh?

I don’t see any way that the ridiculous notion that the Administration can call their cherry-picked findings, “an opinion”, can be taken seriously. I don’t know who you think my team is or what behavior you think I am rationalizing.

 

[oldcatholicguy]

Mr. Hicks is of the opinion that at least a couple of the victims at Benghazi could have been saved although he admits that Stevens may have been dead with the initial attack …
wonder how long it was before Stevens was able to complete his call
And maybe Obama didn’t recognize his calling number either.

Yeah, because knowing the contact info for the US representative on the ground in a hostile area that is also a local “hotspot” in a regional “hotspot” that is undergoing major social/governmental changes isn’t a high priority piece of information.

 

[FollowChrist34]

Am very happy to see ABC news pick this up. The Benghazi episode is very troubling. I am not surprised that the White House spinned it to their advantage by using the video story vs. the reality of the attack (although I do find it reprehensible, I understand the motives for it), what really worries me is the complacency and even assistance of the mainstream media in the effort.

We need an equal opportunity watch dog media that does not align itself with any political party. I am glad to see the press waking up a little bit. I don’t care if they go after Republicans, just go after Democrats too. Impartiality. The media play such a critical role in safeguarding our democratic system.

 

[TaurusRex]

Yeah, because knowing the contact info for the US representative on the ground in a hostile area that is also a local “hotspot” in a regional “hotspot” that is undergoing major social/governmental changes isn’t a high priority piece of information.

Am very happy to see ABC news pick this up. The Benghazi episode is very troubling. I am not surprised that the White House spinned it to their advantage by using the video story vs. the reality of the attack (although I do find it reprehensible, I understand the motives for it), what really worries me is the complacency and even assistance of the mainstream media in the effort.

We need an equal opportunity watch dog media that does not align itself with any political party. I am glad to see the press waking up a little bit. I don’t care if they go after Republicans, just go after Democrats too. Impartiality. The media play such a critical role in safeguarding our democratic system.

Folks, please speak English …
that’s one of the biggest reasons this topic is disgusting to me, that is, because in their zeal to put together a conspiracy, the media which have adopted this tale don’t seem to realize that they’re sounding more and more nonsensical.

To compromise I’ll say that by coincidence riots and protests erupted all over the east from the near east to the far east concerning this video, so why is it so farfetched for the state department to have thought that the Benghazi terrorist attack was also initiated due to the video;
And also why was a protest necessary?
Why wasn’t it possible just as Geraldo Rivera described in the video I provided that Ansar al-Sharia just also used the video as an excuse to make a terrorist attack on the Benghazi consulate?

It could have been planned, but as I’ve stated, Ansar al-Sharia were equipped and ready even to make a spontaneous terrorist attack …
they are the jihadists by whom Muammar Gaddafi got dragged through the streets.

PS:
Did you read the events which occurred at the Benghazi consulate?
Sixty Libyans were killed and including those killed, there was a team of six CIA people resisting the attack at Benghazi:

wnd.com/2013/05/what-did-obama-do-on-9112012/

At 4:05 p.m. the State Department Operations Center issued an alert to all relevant agencies, “U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi Under Attack.”
At 4:25 p.m. a six-member CIA team headed by Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods arrived at Stevens’ compound from the nearby annex.
Under heavy fire, Woods’ team recovered the body of Foreign Service IT specialist Sean Smith but could not find Stevens’ body in the burning building.
At 5 p.m. President Barack Obama had a pre-scheduled meeting with Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, who briefed him on the Benghazi situation.
At 6 p.m. Woods and his CIA team arrived back at the annex, which they would defend Alamo-style for the next six hours. They would kill an estimated 60 Libyans before the night was through.
At 6:07 p.m. the State Department Operations Center shared a report from the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli that Ansar al-Sharia had claimed responsibility for the Benghazi attack. The terror group also called for an attack on the Embassy in Tripoli.

No wonder Hilary Clinton erupted with her now famous comment concerning the “difference” of the possible causes when the differences put forth are petty and especially nonsensical.
Oops
excuse me, I’m forgetting and I guess Hilary was being naïve not realizing that the “big cover-up” conspiracy was on the minds of the tangled web weavers.

rex

 

[7_Sorrows]

If the administrstion’s handling of this isn’t cause for impeachment I don’t know what is. Lie after lie after lie!

 

[TaurusRex]

If the administrstion’s handling of this isn’t cause for impeachment I don’t know what is. Lie after lie after lie!

Opinion after opinion after opinion.

rex

 

[zz912]

Folks, please speak English …
that’s one of the biggest reasons this topic is disgusting to me, that is, because in their zeal to put together a conspiracy, the media which have adopted this tale don’t seem to realize that they’re sounding more and more nonsensical.

This is a blatant talking point and defensive strategy put out by the DNC and their minions. Why are you attempting to use it? The media has NOT been putting together a conspiracy theory. In FACT it has been the opposite. The media has been dragged kicking and screaming to cover this scandal. They have been vocal defenders of the administration on this scandal and have tried to bury it repeatedly. Please be honest.

It could have been planned, but as I’ve stated, Ansar al-Sharia were equipped and ready even to make a spontaneous terrorist attack …

Spontaneous attacks don’t include mortar. Nice try though.

No wonder Hilary Clinton erupted with her now famous comment concerning the “difference” of the possible causes when the differences put forth are petty and especially nonsensical.
Oops
excuse me, I’m forgetting and I guess Hilary was being naïve not realizing that the “big cover-up” conspiracy was on the minds of the tangled web weavers.

rex

You’ve decided to jump on a “team” and defend them no matter what, and ignore the truth.

 

[jediliz]

If anyone related to the Bush administration had said “what difference does it make”…there would have been immediate cries for Impeachment.

Why does the current administration get a pass?

 

[Ridgerunner]

If anyone related to the Bush administration had said “what difference does it make”…there would have been immediate cries for Impeachment.

Why does the current administration get a pass?

Why does it get a pass? Because it’s left-wing and so is the media, that’s why. They don’t criticize their own.

 

[oldcatholicguy]

Folks, please speak English …
that’s one of the biggest reasons this topic is disgusting to me, that is, because in their zeal to put together a conspiracy, the media which have adopted this tale don’t seem to realize that they’re sounding more and more nonsensical.

"* conspiracy was on the minds of the tangled web weavers.

rex

Which is more written in “English”

Your position- The Obama administration wouldn’t know the contact info for Stevens
My position- The Obama administration would know the contact info for the guy representing the US in a country that was just coming out of a civil war in a country that was the focus of international attention and interest in a region (the Middle East and N. Africa) that is of vital US national interests (which involve interests outside of the war on terror and the war on terror itself). And this isn’t even taking into account the heightened state of concern in the administration due to the worldwide protests it claims were due to a movie.

If the Obama administration didn’t know Stevens’s contact info, than everyone involved needs to be fired for incompetence. We aren’t talking about an ambassador stationed in a “wait, that’s a country?” state that had zero internal unrest, zero US national interest, and zero visibility/interest to the international community.

 

[TaurusRex]

This is a blatant talking point and defensive strategy put out by the DNC and their minions. Why are you attempting to use it? The media has NOT been putting together a conspiracy theory. In FACT it has been the opposite. The media has been dragged kicking and screaming to cover this scandal. They have been vocal defenders of the administration on this scandal and have tried to bury it repeatedly. Please be honest.

Spontaneous attacks don’t include mortar. Nice try though.

You’ve decided to jump on a “team” and defend them no matter what, and ignore the truth.

zz912,
imho your post doesn’t even deserve a response except I’m realizing now that my “team” here isn’t as big as your “team” here even though my “team” imho is the more honest, sensible and rational “team” here.
You use words like “scandal” yet you deny words like “conspiracy theory” and now am I supposed to ask you to explain yourself concerning your use of the word “scandal”?
Instead I’ll just pass and allow you another unfounded, ungrounded, opinionated accusation.

However, concerning your comment “spontaneous attacks don’t include mortar”, I’ll just say again that these Ansar al Sharia even have artillery and heavy machine guns mounted on trucks;
So in your apparently expert opinion, why do mortars cancel the idea of a spontaneous attack?

Oops, excuse me, does a “spontaneous attack” have to be performed in less than a half hour or so which might be needed for a couple of terrorists to take a mortar off of a truck and set it up.
Could the mortar have already been set up on the truck?
Keep watching because seeing is believing:

bing.com/videos/search?q=Ansar+al-Sharia+Benghazi&FORM=RESTAB

bing.com/videos/search?q=Ansar+al-Sharia+Benghazi&FORM=RESTAB#view=detail&mid=879CB0230C5834347539879CB0230C5834347539

jediliz,
I’m posting again Ms. Clinton’s entire comment in hopes you can see for yourself how some media have deliberately tried to make her sound uncaring by misconstruing her meaning;
But if you want to join their “team” and help continue their perverted political charade of smearing Hilary Clinton for the next presidential campaign, then it’s your prerogative to join their ranks.

If anyone related to the Bush administration had said “what difference does it make”…there would have been immediate cries for Impeachment.

Why does the current administration get a pass?

Here’s that quote of Hilary’s entire comment:

usatoday.com/story/news/w…aring/1856741/

“With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans,” she said. “Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night and decided they’d go kill some Americans? What difference, at this point, does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator.”

Finally,
I have to say that I’m not on anyone’s “team” and I continue as I’ve stated somewhere before in favor of truth and justice with my political leanings now basically those of a centrist after having in the past been basically center right;
However, I am very disappointed to find it seems to me that folks of my religious faith seem to think so much differently than me.

rex

 

[zz912]

Finally,
I have to say that I’m not on anyone’s “team” and I continue as I’ve stated somewhere before in favor of truth and justice with my political leanings now basically those of a centrist after having in the past been basically center right;
However, I am very disappointed to find it seems to me that folks of my religious faith seem to think so much differently than me.

rex

Everyone thinks they’re a centrist, even when carrying water for the most hard-core leftist administration in history.

 

[zz912]

zz912,
imho your post doesn’t even deserve a response except I’m realizing now that my “team” here isn’t as big as your “team” here even though my “team” imho is the more honest, sensible and rational “team” here.

Personal opinion, nothing more. And quite a few, including myself, disagree. And your personal opinion is unfounded since we have concrete evidence that your “team” lied, knowingly, to the American public. So no, your “team” isn’t more honest.

You use words like “scandal” yet you deny words like “conspiracy theory” and now am I supposed to ask you to explain yourself concerning your use of the word “scandal”?
Instead I’ll just pass and allow you another unfounded, ungrounded, opinionated accusation.

The DNC talking point of “conspiracy theory” is completely ungrounded, unfounded, and libelous accusation. Show me ANYWHERE some indication that the media, particularly the majority of the media, have been looking to do anything but shield the Administration and sweep this under the rug. I’ve already explained why this is a scandal, on three different items. 1. Gun running. 2. Refusal to help Americans in harm’s way for political expediency. 3. Lying about the cause of the attack.

Present some evidence.

However, concerning your comment “spontaneous attacks don’t include mortar”, I’ll just say again that these Ansar al Sharia even have artillery and heavy machine guns mounted on trucks;
So in your apparently expert opinion, why do mortars cancel the idea of a spontaneous attack?

Because mortars are expensive, and heavy, and difficult to use. They need highly trained people to operate them or you’ll blow yourself to smithereens. You need coordination among the fighting forces so your fighters don’t walk into the kill zone. You need coordination among fighters to identify, target, and attack. They are NOT simply thrown around and allowed to be used willy-nilly. They are a very rationed-use weapon.

Oops, excuse me, does a “spontaneous attack” have to be performed in less than a half hour or so which might be needed for a couple of terrorists to take a mortar off of a truck and set it up.
Could the mortar have already been set up on the truck?
Keep watching because seeing is believing:

Explained above.

 

[qui_est_ce]

Because mortars are expensive, and heavy, and difficult to use. They need highly trained people to operate them or you’ll blow yourself to smithereens. You need coordination among the fighting forces so your fighters don’t walk into the kill zone. You need coordination among fighters to identify, target, and attack. They are NOT simply thrown around and allowed to be used willy-nilly. They are a very rationed-use weapon.

This is the way it was explained to me by my very liberal nephew who is in the Army. He said from the very beginning it could not have been spontaneous.

 

[DeniseNY]

But if you want to join their “team” and help continue their perverted political charade of smearing Hilary Clinton for the next presidential campaign, then it’s your prerogative to join their ranks.

If shining a light on her actions as SoS is “smearing”, so be it.