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bisco1
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i’m not sure i understand your meaning. i try to live for God. i have a wife and three grown children for whom i worked most of my life to support. and now, we have my 92 year old mother in law to help.
White people have 13 dollars for every dollar held by black Americans
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RGCheek
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I would call that living for your wife, children and mother as well as for God.
What does the phrase ‘living for ___’ mean to you if it doesn’t include the role of provider?
And the government does not make it easier for you to meet your demands as a provider over time. In 1950 the average annual income for an American was around $3000, and federal taxes only started at around $1200, but most had a $400 deduction per house hold member, so few people paid federal taxes. Most of the taxes people paid went to property taxes and that sort of thing. Corporations paid $2 for every $3 private individuals paid and the vast majority of that private tax revenue came from businesses not households.
Now family households pay the vast majority of the private taxes and corporations pay only $1 for every $3 paid by working class families.
While we have kept our nose to the grindstone, where we can, the feds have put their hands into our pockets.
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bisco1
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we can agree to disagree about taxes, that’s one of the great things about our country. as a catholic, i try to accept Jesus’ attitude about what is caesars and what is Gods. i try to live a simple life, so money is not the main priority.
meltzerboy
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You’re correct: they have not directly experienced slavery. I meant a history of slavery and discrimination going back to preceding generations, which recent African immigrants do not have.
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bisco1
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they just have the discrimination.
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RGCheek
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Wow, so the laws that set aside contracts for minorities is so awful. And the reluctance of anyone to arrest minorities now that screaming mobs of A.N.S.W.E.R. communists demonstrate demanding the death of cops in response.
Then of course we have the cultural discrimination that penalizes whites for saying words that minorities are allowed to say with no blow back, and the freedom that minorities to have to have graduations and proms held specifically for them and their ethnic group with no whites allowed.
I could go on, but I See no need.
The fact is that the white majority does not have equal standing in our courts of law anymore unless they are rich.
And that is exactly how the left wants it since whites are now overwhelmingly Republican today…
meltzerboy
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What do any of these remarks have to do with my response to another poster’s comment?
I was pointing out the differences between the African American experience in the United States and that of recent African immigrants, which someone else had mentioned.
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RGCheek
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You said that discrimination against blacks still exists, as if ANY ethnic group doesn’t have negative stereotypes in EVERY other ethnic group and always will, when the fact is that the ONLY ethnic group that is deliberately discriminated against in our courts and legal code (and something that can be changed) are WHITE people.
Just wanted to set the record straight.
meltzerboy
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You are right: every ethnic group does have negative stereotypes. However, one does not often act on those stereotypes in the form of discriminatory behavior. In the case of African Americans, I believe there is more of a tendency to act on those stereotypes than is true of many other ethnic groups. Today the discrimination against African Americans is much less than it used to be, largely due to nondiscrimination laws, as well as changes in attitude; nonetheless, it still exists.
What evidence do you have that White people, as a group, are discriminated against in the court system? Poor people, yes, but not explicitly because they are White. In the case of being both poor AND Black, however, I think there may be a compounding effect.
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stinkcat_14
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I think part of the problem is that it is difficult to disentangle discrimination from the other behaviors that cause bad outcomes. For example, the high school dropout rate among african americans is high, but is that because of race or because of the geography where they live? After all, there are poor places in the US such as parts of appalachia where the dropout rate is just as high, but with a different racial profile. So just how do we determine how much discrimination affects things? This is an important question to answer, but people are interested in answering the question. Which is why I say that people aren’t as interested in a conversation on race as they are a monologue on race.
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bisco1
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and some racism is obvious, as when a black man is arrested and forced to the ground, handcuffed and taken by the police, all for walking through a white neighborhood. not as likely to happen the other way around.
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RGCheek
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I listed them above; racial contract set asides, double standards for free speech, quotas for college admissions, favoritism in civil service exams, etc. All legal, done by the government and to top it all off we have established the reasonable minority rule for cases involving he said she said cases in our tort courts where the point of view of the minority person is all that is considered relevant and the intent and meaning of what the white person said is almost entirely irrelevant.
People have lost their jobs or been censored for using words and phrases like ‘black hole’ or ‘niggardly’ while minorities can go around dropping N-bombs any time anywhere.
That is what makes me so sick to death about people talking about how poor ol’ minorities have life so much rougher than everyone else. That hasn’t been true for fifty years at least.
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RGCheek
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That is nonsense.
Inter-racial crime is far more black-on-white than it is white on black. Whites statistically do not go to commit crimes in black neighborhoods nearly as often as blacks go to white neighborhoods.
Why? Mostly economics; the is better loot in white neighborhoods and it is easier for people to blend into their own communities. So while there are off-setting incentives for blacks to commit economic crimes in white neighborhoods there is a double disincentive for whites to go into black neighborhoods.
So the odds of police responding to a crime report of ‘black criminal in white neighborhood’ is far more likely than the opposite.
That does not prove that there is more discrimination against blacks but that there is more black-on-white inter-racial crime. One could argue given these facts suggest that whites are being victimized more than blacks in this regard.
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bisco1
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it’s obvious racism. blacks committing crimes in white neighborhoods isn’t racism because they also commit crimes in black neighborhoods. and besides, they’re just following the money.
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RGCheek
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And enforcing the law in response to the higher black-on-white crime isn’t racism either.it’s obvious racism. blacks committing crimes in white neighborhoods isn’t racism because they also commit crimes in black neighborhoods. and besides, they’re just following the money.
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bisco1
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okay, if you say so.
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stinkcat_14
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Well, who has been appointed to determine what is and what is not racism? I am sure that you would agree that you have no authority to determine what is or is not racism. So if nobody can determine what racism is, then all we have is people’s opinions. So what makes one posters opinion of what racism is better than others?okay, if you say so.
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bisco1
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good point. as catholics, we should ignore repression and division, wherever we see it.
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stinkcat_14
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Who is ignoring repression and division?good point. as catholics, we should ignore repression and division, wherever we see it.
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