White woman who hit black man during argument about whether he could be on the beach is charged with a hate crime

[Ridgerunner]

A touching without causing actual bodily harm is usually a misdemeanor. The only aggravating circumstance here is mutual name-calling. Sounds to me like the woman is being treated more harshly than someone else would, solely because she offended a black man. He was a young man. She an old woman. He had his friends there. She was alone.

I don’t think there can be much doubt the prosecutor is either acting politically or is assuming a false virtue by treating her much worse than normal solely for insulting a black person.

 

[ThinkingSapien]

A touching without causing actual bodily harm is usually a misdemeanor.

While bodily harm is included, Illinois criminal code also includes making physical contact of an insulting or provoking nature with an individual.

He was a young man. She an old woman. He had his friends there. She was alone.

Looking at the applied law in question, I don’t see that the presence of associates changes the law. Nor does the age, at least not beyond a person being an adult. It may be worth noting that there are no charges applied against her for the people that she did not strike.

I don’t think there can be much doubt the prosecutor is either acting politically or is assuming a false virtue by treating her much worse than normal solely for insulting a black person.

I don’t make either assumption. But I see possible outcomes where she can get out of this without serving time.

 

[WingedHussar]

I believe that calling African Americans a ‘sacred class’ is a blasphemous slur. If I’m in the wrong I’m sure your inevitable flag will get me censored.

My original remark about sacred classes was a sarcastic commentary on the way the American left treats their designated victim groups as seen from the perspective of an outsider. Now apparently that was a “blasphemous slur” against black people. However blasphemy is an insult against a sacred or holy entity so I was on point with my remark about how the American left views their designated victim groups, as sacred classes.

 

[ThinkingSapien]

My original remark about sacred classes was a sarcastic commentary on the way the American left treats their designated victim groups as seen from the perspective of an outsider.

What have you seen with respect to the responses from USA communities?

 

[Nepperhan]

My original remark about sacred classes was a sarcastic commentary on the way the American left treats their designated victim groups as seen from the perspective of an outsider.

So, people who are not black are victims? From the outside, you see a leftist emphasis on victims who are minorities? Do you therefore (from what such attitudes mean) acknowledge the existence of white privilege?

 

[Rubee]

Bear in mind, the white victimhood I’ve seen claimed on this forum includes such oppressive things as an inability to comfortably (without social consequence) call black people the n-word and keep monuments celebrating racism.

 

[ThinkingSapien]

Bear in mind, the white victimhood I’ve seen claimed on this forum includes such oppressive things as an inability to comfortably (without social consequence) call black people the n-word

I remember a thread where a specific user expressed that. I don’t see him in the forums any more. The same user also wanted segregation to preserve the “purity of the races” because if they are allowed to mix too long,one might not be able to tell them apart.

 

[Rubee]

The same user also wanted segregation to preserve the “purity of the races” because if they are allowed to mix too long,one might not be able to tell them apart.

Thankfully, the inability to tell different races apart is not a tragedy unless one values segragation in the first place! Chicken-n-egg kinda problem.

In reality, as genetics tells us, all humans are one race from Africa, despite whatever superfucial mutations have arisen to adapt to different environments. White Supremacists are ultimately African with Black ancestors.

Also, it’s weird how many of them will decry Marxism for employing top-down social engineering methods yet want to use govt to force people interested in each other not to mix and mingle their genes

 

[Ridgerunner]

Bear in mind, the white victimhood I’ve seen claimed on this forum includes such oppressive things as an inability to comfortably (without social consequence) call black people the n-word and keep monuments celebrating racism.

I have never seen anybody say that about the “N” word. As to the monuments to Confederate soldiers, they do not celebrate racism just because you think of them that way.

But the fact is in this case that the woman is being charged with a felony for what is normally a misdemeanor charge at worst for one reason only. It’s because she’s white and the complainant is black. They exchanged insults. His was sexist and hers was racist, apparently. That’s why she’s charged with a felony. You can call my disapproval of that “white privilege” but it’s just plain injustice I’m complaining about.

 

[Rubee]

I have never seen anybody say that about the “N” word.

It wasn’t even one month ago, I’m sure. And it was a direct response to that very question (examples of White people being mistreated).

 

[Nepperhan]

But the fact is in this case that the woman is being charged with a felony for what is normally a misdemeanor charge at worst for one reason only. It’s because she’s white and the complainant is black.

You state your suspicion as a fact. I have seen people charged with felony assault for actions in IL such as the woman in this case.

That’s why she’s charged with a felony. You can call my disapproval of that “white privilege” but it’s just plain injustice I’m complaining about.

You set up a false dichotomy. The woman should not have put her hands on him. Period.

She was wrong on the beach regulations, too. When the beach official told her to let it go, she should have let it go.