Who goes to Hell? (All Religions Please Answer)

[OneTrueCathApos]

first of all **not one person here can answer this, nor do they know the answer. **God will sort them out. Only God decides who goes to hell and who doesn’t. None of you here can make that claim.

 

[ChristIsLord]

from my long study of islam, judaism, christianity, catholicism, and mormonism i would say we’re all going to hell…

 

[OneTrueCathApos]

from my long study of islam, judaism, christianity, catholicism, and mormonism i would say we’re all going to hell…

Then you weren’t paying attention in school… And er…Catholicism is not seperate from Christianity, we are Christianity seeing that we were in fact the first Christians. Protestants came only 500 years or so ago.

 

[Gabriel_of_12]

Hey Guys!

I thought this would be an interesting topic, Who Goes to Hell?

Now, Your answers should not be judgmental and the purpose of asking this is not to judge people, but to study our religious texts on the subject of a “Place where the bad people go after death”

My stance is that some people do go to hell and it seems to be eternal:

Revelation 20:

10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. 14Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15If anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

It seems to me that the Lake of Fire = Eternal Punishment and that Satan, the Beast, the False Profit, the Fallen Angels, and some People on this earth will definitely be going there and that the punishment does not end. I think Jesus reiterates this point:

Mark 9:47-49

47 And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell, 48where
" ‘their worm does not die,
and the fire is not quenched.’[a] 49Everyone will be salted with fire.

It seems that Jesus is talking about regular people who are sinners that can go to hell and the statements he uses are Eternal statements. It also seems to match the Eternal Punishment that is described in Revelations where “They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever” is talking about the Beast, the False Proffit, and Lucifer/Satan/Belial and
“Everyone will be salted with fire.” is describing the evil trinity above + All People thrown into the lake.

Gabriel of 12;
Anyone who sins against the “Holy Spirit” will not be forgiven? These are gauranteed a place in the firery Gehenna.

The interpretation of this scripture gives logic to the lost.

 

[bosnian_muslim]

All people,good or bad,that dont believe in One and only true God will go to hell

most muslims will also go to hell-but only temporary! the kuffar will on the other hand burn for ever

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

Hey Guys!

I thought this would be an interesting topic, Who Goes to Hell?

Now, Your answers should not be judgmental and the purpose of asking this is not to judge people, but to study our religious texts on the subject of a “Place where the bad people go after death”

My stance is that some people do go to hell and it seems to be eternal:

Revelation 20:

10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. 14Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15If anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

It seems to me that the Lake of Fire = Eternal Punishment and that Satan, the Beast, the False Profit, the Fallen Angels, and some People on this earth will definitely be going there and that the punishment does not end. I think Jesus reiterates this point:

Mark 9:47-49

47 And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell, 48where
" ‘**their worm does not die, **
and the fire is not quenched.’[a] 49Everyone will be salted with fire.

It seems that Jesus is talking about regular people who are sinners that can go to hell and the statements he uses are Eternal statements. It also seems to match the Eternal Punishment that is described in Revelations where “They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever” is talking about the Beast, the False Proffit,

AKA - the Almighty Dollar ?​

and Lucifer/Satan/Belial and

“Everyone will be salted with fire.” is describing the evil trinity above + All People thrown into the lake.

##** In the interests of science:**

• The Temperature of Hell
• The temperatures of Heaven and Hell
• Heaven is Hotter than Hell

The details of the evaporation of salt are impossible to research, in the absence of more exact data. All that is clear is that the energy of the heating agent:

• is constantly renewable
• seems not to affect dental enamel
• is not fatal to an undying worm
• allows sulphur to be present - apparently in significant quantities.

 

[ChristIsLord]

Then you weren’t paying attention in school… And er…Catholicism is not seperate from Christianity, we are Christianity seeing that we were in fact the first Christians. Protestants came only 500 years or so ago.

the differences between your mainstream christianity and catholicism is so great they warranted their own distinction. catholics call themselves catholics all the time stop being so sensitive.

i paid attention plenty… as long as you don’t get hit by a bus on your way to confess to either a pederest or repressed homosexual you’re golden… but god forbid you live 80 years a perfect catholic life, sin mortally in a fleeting moment of weakness and die before you can get a confession in then it’s eternal hell-fire for you… pretty ridiculous but accurate…

my past decade as a catholic i’ve had nothing but the biggest weirdos as priests, to think my mortal soul for eternity relies on me telling these effeminate weirdos all my dirt is pretty laughable.

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

Buddhism has sixteen hells, eight hot and eight cold. All of them are temporary, though life in some of the lower hells can last for a very long and unpleasant time. Unfortunately all of the heavens are temporary as well.

Since we all go through many rebirths it is very probable that we have all been to hell in some of our previous lives and most of us will be going to hell again for some future lives. Similarly for the heavens, we have been there before and are likely to go there again. Only nirvana is final; once you have attained nirvana there are no more rebirths.

As to who goes there, it is as a result of your actions during each life:
Mind precedes all conditions,
mind is their chief, they are mind-made.
If you speak or act with an evil mind then suffering will follow you,
as the wheel follows the draught ox.

Mind precedes all conditions,
mind is their chief, they are mind-made.
If you speak or act with a pure mind then happiness will follow you,
as a shadow that never leaves.

Dhammapada vv 1-2
Actions have effects. Good actions have good effects and bad actions have bad effects.

rossum

Can the cycle of rebirth be broken once and for ever ? And how did it begin ? Is there any unrepeatable beginning & unrepetable definite consummation in Buddhism. The notion that this universe is one of countless universes one after another, without end, is terrifying - a hamster on a treadmill must feel a bit similar ​

Sorry to deviate into cosmology

 

[OneTrueCathApos]

the differences between your mainstream christianity and catholicism is so great they warranted their own distinction. catholics call themselves catholics all the time stop being so sensitive.

i paid attention plenty… as long as you don’t get hit by a bus on your way to confess to either a pederest or repressed homosexual you’re golden… but god forbid you live 80 years a perfect catholic life, sin mortally in a fleeting moment of weakness and die before you can get a confession in then it’s eternal hell-fire for you… pretty ridiculous but accurate…

my past decade as a catholic i’ve had nothing but the biggest weirdos as priests, to think my mortal soul for eternity relies on me telling these effeminate weirdos all my dirt is pretty laughable.

Christian is my name, Catholic is my surname…a Catholic is a Christian, and the first ones at that…anyway, if you have a problem confessing your sins to a priest, then you have a gripe with Jesus who tells you to do so in His absence. Then you have a gripe with Christ who tells you to do this in Scripture. Priests are not weirdos, they are the umbilical cord to God and they give up and sacrifice their whole lives for Christ. Can you do that? If you think priests are weird, you were not educated in the Catholic faith as well as your belief was/is not there. I suggest you do your history, read the bible and learn about the faith.

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

Does anyone think hell is not eternal?

Not if by “eternal”, one means no more than “lasting a very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very…very very very very very very very very long time”.​

 

[OneTrueCathApos]

the differences between your mainstream christianity and catholicism is so great they warranted their own distinction. catholics call themselves catholics all the time stop being so sensitive.

i paid attention plenty… as long as you don’t get hit by a bus on your way to confess to either a pederest or repressed homosexual you’re golden… but god forbid you live 80 years a perfect catholic life, sin mortally in a fleeting moment of weakness and die before you can get a confession in then it’s eternal hell-fire for you… pretty ridiculous but accurate…

my past decade as a catholic i’ve had nothing but the biggest weirdos as priests, to think my mortal soul for eternity relies on me telling these effeminate weirdos all my dirt is pretty laughable.

BTW, I see you mentioned (again) a priests homosexuality issues. It happens MORE in the other denominations than in the Catholic church. For the record, the CC actually has the LOWEST molestation rate than any other religion out there. Just check out www.reformation.com and you’ll see why. Would you like to talk about these Protestant pastors and ministers who have molested hundreds of kids? I wouldn’t want to go there.

 

[ChristIsLord]

Christian is my name, Catholic is my surname…a Catholic is a Christian, and the first ones at that…anyway, if you have a problem confessing your sins to a priest, then you have a gripe with Jesus who tells you to do so in His absence. Then you have a gripe with Christ who tells you to do this in Scripture. Priests are not weirdos, they are the umbilical cord to God and they give up and sacrifice their whole lives for Christ. Can you do that? If you think priests are weird, you were not educated in the Catholic faith as well as your belief was/is not there. I suggest you do your history, read the bible and learn about the faith.

i’m absolutely certain i know more of the catholic faith than you… pride comes before the fall, remember that i was at one point a daily communicant and confessing weekly. it made me a neurotic mess. sorry the catholci faith imo is nearly wholely man-made and it wasn’t easy for me to come to that conclusion.

none of the others are much better hence why i joke that we’re all going to hell.

 

[OneTrueCathApos]

i’m absolutely certain i know more of the catholic faith than you… pride comes before the fall, remember that i was at one point a daily communicant and confessing weekly. it made me a neurotic mess. sorry the catholci faith imo is nearly wholely man-made and it wasn’t easy for me to come to that conclusion.

none of the others are much better hence why i joke that we’re all going to hell.

Well CIL, if you supposedly know the Catholic faith better than I, you’ll know that it is not man made, that all the others ARE in fact man made.

Lutheran - Martin Luther 1517
Church of England - King Henry VIII 1534
Presbyterian - John Knox 1560
Episcopalian Protestant - (offshoot from the Church of England) Samuel Seabury 17th century
Congregationalist - Robert Brown 1582
Methodist - John and Charles Wesley 1744
Unitarian - Theopilius Lindley 1774
Mormon - (LDS) - Joseph Smith 1829
Baptist - John Smyth 1605
Christian Scientist - Mr. and Mrs. Eddy Baker
Anything else titled " Church of the Nazarene", “Pentecostal Gospel”, Holiness Church", Pilgrim Holiness church", Jehovah’s Witness", your religion is one of the hundreds of new sects founded by men within the past century.

If you are Catholic, you should know that your religion was founded in the year 33 A.D. by Jesus Christ the Son of God and is still the same church.

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

Many of the Indian religions: Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism, see hell as temporary. I am not sure about Sikhism but I suspect that hell is also temporary for Sikhs.

A permanent hell, and heaven, seems to be characteristic of the Abrahamic religions.

rossum

That kind of thing may be a Semitic characteristic - the Babylonians & Assyrians had ideas of what in Greek terms amount to Hades, & in OT terms to Sheol. They had no Tartaros/state of punishment. The Egyptians seem to have had both a place punishment and a place of bliss. Neither had a Last Judgement - that’s a development of OT theology.​

Judaism & Christianity both see man’s history as being an intelligible linear narrative with a beginning and an end. That kind of POV, which implies finality, allows for heaven and hell to be permanent. And for both of them, God is active within history, not utterly inaccessible in a transcendent divine “realm” Such a God can enter into communion with men, & make ethical demands of them - & there is the small matter of monotheism

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

Since I said I would provide more authoritative sources for my responses, here it is.

From the CCC:

**IV. HELL **
1033 We cannot be united with God unless we freely choose to love him. But we cannot love God if we sin gravely against him, against our neighbor or against ourselves: "He who does not love remains in death. Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him."612 Our Lord warns us that we shall be separated from him if we fail to meet the serious needs of the poor and the little ones who are his brethren.613 **To die in mortal sin without repenting and accepting God’s merciful love means remaining separated from him for ever by our own free choice. This state of definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed is called “hell.” **
1034 Jesus often speaks of “Gehenna” of “the unquenchable fire” reserved for those who to the end of their lives refuse to believe and be converted, where both soul and body can be lost.614 Jesus solemnly proclaims that he "will send his angels, and they will gather . . . all evil doers, and throw them into the furnace of fire,"615 and that he will pronounce the condemnation: "Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire!"616
1035 The teaching of the Church affirms the existence of hell and its eternity. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, "eternal fire."617 The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God, in whom alone man can possess the life and happiness for which he was created and for which he longs.
1036 The affirmations of Sacred Scripture and the teachings of the Church on the subject of hell are a call to the responsibility incumbent upon man to make use of his freedom in view of his eternal destiny. They are at the same time an urgent call to conversion: "Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard, that leads to life, and those who find it are few."618
Since we know neither the day nor the hour, we should follow the advice of the Lord and watch constantly so that, when the single course of our earthly life is completed, we may merit to enter with him into the marriage feast and be numbered among the blessed, and not, like the wicked and slothful servants, be ordered to depart into the eternal fire, into the outer darkness where "men will weep and gnash their teeth."619

1037 God predestines no one to go to hell;

Indeed not - He foreordains this. No one is damned “by accident”, nor undeservedly, nor outside His Providence,which rules all creatures without exception. So to happen at all, damnation must be within the scope of Divine Providence - unless God does not provide for & govern all creatures.​

620 for this, a willful turning away from God (a mortal sin) is necessary, and persistence in it until the end. In the Eucharistic liturgy and in the daily prayers of her faithful, the Church implores the mercy of God, who does not want “any to perish, but all to come to repentance”:621
Father, accept this offering
from your whole family.
Grant us your peace in this life,
save us from final damnation,
and count us among those you have chosen.622

The words “those you have chosen” implies that not all are chosen… Though there may be other possibilities…​

**IV. HELL **.622

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

the differences between your mainstream christianity and catholicism is so great they warranted their own distinction. catholics call themselves catholics all the time stop being so sensitive.

Yes - Catholic Christians ​

i paid attention plenty… as long as you don’t get hit by a bus on your way to confess to either a pederest or repressed homosexual you’re golden… but god forbid you live 80 years a perfect catholic life,

No one can “live… a perfect [C]atholic life”. “Paying attention” is useless, if one has no strong interior life. Ronald Knox pointed that out over 60 years ago. Unless we have a strong interior life, instead of “going through the motions” , there is absolutely no way we can persevere in a good life to the end. Take away faith, hope, & charity, & all the knowledge about Catholicism is worth far less than nothing (if that’s possible). ​

sin mortally in a fleeting moment of weakness

That does not sound like mortal sin. No one can go to Hell unless they try to - it takes effort, deliberation, malice, to do so. Sorry. ​

and die before you can get a confession in then it’s eternal hell-fire for you… pretty ridiculous but accurate…

Actually, it’s not accurate: anyone in danger in death who is in mortal sin has only to make an act of contrition, & damnation ceases to be possible. The grace to make an act of contrition is God’s to give: it’s no fault of any man if it’s not given. Mortal sin can’t be committed by mistake. Neither is damnation a mistake - it’s something deserved. Or doesn’t trampling the death of God Incarnate underfoot deserve Hell ?​

my past decade as a catholic i’ve had nothing but the biggest weirdos as priests, to think my mortal soul for eternity relies on me telling these effeminate weirdos all my dirt is pretty laughable.

It doesn’t - the Church does not believe or say it does. Without some degree of contrition on the part of the penitent, no absolution is of any value. And contrition can be had for the asking - by asking God for it. Not just within the sacrament of reconciliation, but outside it, every hour of every day.​

 

[matahari]

Who goes to hell. Easy question . Since Eternity is a continuation of earthly life who goes to hell will be those people who in this world already have hell in their heart . They show it in the way they speak and in the things they do., in their hatred and mockery of all that is good and holy. They will throw themselves into hell because they could not bear to be in the presence of a Holy God.

 

[KyivAndrew]

For the Catholic viewpoint, I recommend reading:

The Population of Hell
by Avery Cardinal Dulles
Copyright (c) 2003 First Things (May 2003)
firstthings.com/article.php3?id_article=488

Peace,
O’Malley

For those not in the no, this article points out the views of one of the last two popes’ favorite theologians, Hans Urs von Balthasar who argued in his seminal Dare We Hope “That All Men Will Be Saved” that Revelation in the Bible does not give the certainty that in the end any are condemned and all may be ultimately be saved in God’s love and that we have a right and duty to hope for the salvation of all.

I’ve oversimplified here a bit and not gone into all the nuances. Balthasar writes interestingly of Christ’s Descent into Hell (after Good Friday and before Easter, that is Holy Saturdy) and what he believes Christ accomplished in descending into Hell on the day before his Resurrection.

This idea has a long lineage and was believed by some early Church Fathers and the 3rd Century theologian Origen, though some of Origen’s views were later condemned. None of Balthasar’s have been and as I said he is one of the pope’s favorites though now passed away.

Balthasar interprets Jesus’ statements on hell as not being predictive but given more for the edification of faith and condemnation of sin. However, it might be quite hard and perhaps unjust to imagine either Hitler of Stalin not going through some incredibly pains in the afterlife, whether somehow they are ever reconciled to God or not.

In the end nobody knows for sure but God, in Whom we hope.

God Bless!

 

[rossum]

Can the cycle of rebirth be broken once and for ever ? And how did it begin ? Is there any unrepeatable beginning & unrepetable definite consummation in Buddhism. The notion that this universe is one of countless universes one after another, without end, is terrifying - a hamster on a treadmill must feel a bit similar ​

Sorry to deviate into cosmology

The end of the round of rebirths is nirvana. Once you have attained enlightenment you are not reborn any more.

The beginning is not defined:[The Buddha said:] From an inconstruable beginning comes transmigration. A beginning point is not evident

Assu sutta, Samyutta Nikaya 15.3
All that we need to know is that the process is currently ongoing and we are enmeshed in it.

rossum

 

[JohnVIII]

anyone worships any human being or angel or any creation of God Almighty as diety & die without repentance will be in fire forever . Blashphemy is the most major sin & only punishment is eternal fire. If any Muslim worships Muhammed (pbuh) as diety , s/he will be in fire , too.

1 Corinthians 12:3

Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus is accursed”; and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

John 8:58

Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.”