Who is the Prophet Mohammed?

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Sam_777 said:
"Gabriel", that is mentioned in the Quran commentaries.
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So the Quranic verse 5:110 which states “When Allah will say: O Jesus, son of Mary, remember My favour to thee and to thy mother, when I strengthened thee with the Holy Spirit”, is Gabriel?

Why doesn’t Allah state it is so then? 🤷:confused:

MJ
 
mangy_dog said:
Mohammed is not a prophet, Great or otherwise.

Jesus Christ is the one, true Lord and God of all and St. John the Baptist is His prophet. There is no other god and there is no other prophet greater than the prophet of the Most High, St. John the Baptist.
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""Eight days later, when the baby was circumcised, he was named Jesus, the name given him by the angel even before he was conceived. luke/2-21

true Lord and God of all getting circumcised :eek:!!!
bible.cc/luke/2-21.htm
 
CutlerB said:
Correct. The “logic” they use though is this: “If something in the Bible is confirmed in the Koran, then that part of the Bible is true. If not, it’s false.” Problem with that is that it is a begging-the-question and that we can make that claim for the Bible just as well.
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I totally agree! However in defence, Muslims claim they have an unbroken chain of narration confirming the authenticity of the Quran.

In order to prove the Bible has been fabricated they usually throw the following at us:
  • The added ending of Mark chapter 16
  • The controversy of John 3:16, the word “begotten” in not found among many of the important manuscripts, thus it’s an interpolation.
  • The differences in the Septuagint and Masoretic texts regarding key verses such as Isaiah 7:14, Psalms 40:6 etc.
God bless,
 
Augustine3 said:
I totally agree! However in defence, Muslims claim they have an unbroken chain of narration confirming the authenticity of the Quran.

In order to prove the Bible has been fabricated they usually throw the following at us:
  • The added ending of Mark chapter 16
  • The controversy of John 3:16, the word “begotten” in not found among many of the important manuscripts, thus it’s an interpolation.
  • The differences in the Septuagint and Masoretic texts regarding key verses such as Isaiah 7:14, Psalms 40:6 etc.
God bless,
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I would wager that this has Deedat written all over it…nothing to see here…move along…move along:p

MJ
 
MartinJordan said:
I would wager that this has Deedat written all over it…nothing to see here…move along…move along:p

MJ
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You are correct. I’ve debated Muslims in an Islamic forum…Deedat is flooded all over this forum.

I am curious to know how we defend ourselves against the accusation of the “added” ending to Mark chapter 16; any thoughts?

God bless,
 
Augustine3 said:
You are correct. I’ve debated Muslims in an Islamic forum…Deedat is flooded all over this forum.

I am curious to know how we defend ourselves against the accusation of the “added” ending to Mark chapter 16; any thoughts?

God bless,
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Don’t Matthew 28 Luke 24 and John 20 and 21 corroborate the main points of Mark 16? Also Acts 2 for instance and it goes on…🙂

So whether addition or not (I would say not) we’re in good hands with the Bible as word of God.:highprayer:

After all the Bible didn’t drop from the sky. It is a collection of experiences told by the Gospel writers.

MJ
 
:)👍 Hello everyone…interesting question about a MAN that is NOT a TRUE prophet but also one who married an 8 year old girl and consumated their marriage on HER 9th birthday with approval of one of his IMAMs. Also, who has named GOD , Allah, a name used by members of his tribe for the name of their moon Goddess.
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 Now , not being a scholar myself, you may wonder where I got this knowledge...well, it is from a college level book called... A History of the Arab Peoples, written well respected researcher Albert Hourani... He is well respected in both the Western and Arab worlds.  He did alot of his research at the University of Cairo. So it seems that some peoples opinion that ISLAM could be called a CULT and Mohammed called a false prophet can be substantiated. This is my opinion, and as an American , protected under the First Amendment, that is what I think.  However, I will not disrepect those Muslims that believe their religion is good.  

Thanks folks.. very good question, and lots of good answers and opinions..GOD BLESS All..
 
Mohammed claimed that Allah was the supreme name of God, but the bible clearly states that the Almighty’s name is YHWH - Yehowah.
Mohammed spoke in the name of another god, so my conclusion would be that he is a False Prophet.

Deuteronomy 18:20 KJV
But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak , or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
 
An ancient Arabian warlord and religious leader who worshipped a moon-diety. He got some Christians, Jews, and Zoroastrians to write a book that is now called the Koran. That’s about it.
 
I am 86 and a Marine Corps veteran of WWII, raised a Southern Baptist and converted to the Roman Catholic Church following my military service. I have a question concerning Islam. Maybe one of you intellectuals can set me straight… What is meant by the term “Judeo Christian Tradition”? I see very little in common between Judaism and Christianity, except for references to a few Old Testament Books. And Jesus spoke of a “new and everlasting covenant”. A few years ago I attended a “closed” lecture by a prominent rabbi who said that Jesus was “the bastard child of a Roman soldier and a teenage Jewish whore”. No where in Jewish literature do I find any reference to Jesus. The only thing I hear Jews say about Jesus is that he was a “teacher” from an extreme sect. On the other hand, in the Koran, Jesus is referred to numerous times as a “prophet” and the “Messiah” to the Jewish people. The Koran also teaches that Mary was a virgin who gave birth to Jesus, pretty much paraphrasing the Gospel of Luke. I find that the notion of “virgin birth” is ridiculed by my Jewish and Mormon friends. All in all, it seems to me that the Muslim religion is much more aligned with Christianity than the Jewish religion. So why don’t we talk about a “Christian Muslim Tradition”?
 
I don’t honestly think there is such a thing as a Judaeo-Christian tradition.

Judaism and Christianity are very different belief systems.

I am Jewish BTW
 
The politicians, particularly the so-called “conservatives”, who want both the “evangelical” Christian vote and the Jewish vote talk about a Judaeo Christian “tradition”. In any case, Islam apparently declares Jesus to be a “prophet” on a par with Mohammed.
 
Jack_726 said:
. So why don’t we talk about a “Christian Muslim Tradition”?
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Tradition is too much of a stronger word. Islam takes some of the truths of Judaism and Christianity and calls itself the fulfillment. Anything that is not agreeable is left out and anything that has a remnant of relevancy is given the revisionist treatment.

Hardly traditional, rather more confrontational in its so called “fulfillment”.

MJ
 
Jack_726 said:
The politicians, particularly the so-called “conservatives”, who want both the “evangelical” Christian vote and the Jewish vote talk about a Judaeo Christian “tradition”. In any case, Islam apparently declares Jesus to be a “prophet” on a par with Mohammed.
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First of all, 'rah.

Politicians throw around the term for precisely the reasons you describe.

The Jewish rabbi you mentioned above is extremely radical in his viewpoints. There are plenty of Jewish scholars today who study early Christianity in terms of 1st-century Jewish theology and controversy - which is what early Christianity was, essentially, a radical offshoot of Judaism.

Judaism is essentially the least common denominator in the Abrahamic religions.
 
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