Who, What, When, Where, Why Your Religion?

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SPOKENWORD:
What is Faith?
(1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2) : belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion
I have History on my side That Jesus is Lord.There is proof by what was recorded and written.
You have the Bible.
And the Bible does not make it truth. Do you have as much.
I have more than that. Putting faith in words alone is pointless.
How do you know this is the true god and godess?
I have already explained this.
What evidence and proof do you have?
And this.
Please stop going in circles with me.
Perhaps you should be more specific in your questions, then.
 
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Katholikos:
That is relativism, my dear.
But as there is NO relgion that has been objectively proven, then people are going to have different ideas of Divinity, and they cannot be called wrong because there is no proof of it. My beliefs may be wrong to you, but if one is looking at it from an unbiased sense there is no proof that my beliefs are any more wrong or right than yours. And vice versa.
Wrong. Catholicism does, indeed, claim to teach the absolute Truth and I, a former atheist, absolutely believe it.
Note the word in bold. Catholicism claims to have to truth, but in reality, it cannot lay claim to teaching the only truth because there is no proof of that.
Why would I waste my time “believing” a “truth” that may not be – and probably isn’t – "true’?
shrugs If that’s the way you feel, why bother being religious at all? Since that statement applies to Catholicism just as much as it does to any other religion.
 
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TobyLue:
If a person is reincarnated or chooses to be reincarnated, how does he/she know in his/her reincarnated state, what lessons he/she needs to learn?
As I believe I may have stated previously, I believe that person will be reincarnated into a situation where they will need to learn certain lessons.
At what age will that person know he/she has been reincarnated
Maybe never until after death. But through meditation, dreams, prayers, etc. it can be possible.
When a person chooses to be reincarnated, can he/she choose the womb that will carry him/her? Or is it just a hit and miss situation?
They will be reincarnated into a situation appropriate for any lessons they may need to learn.
When is the decision to be reincarnated made?
After death, in the Summerland.
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How will they know that they have reached the point that they have learned the necessary lessons?
Again, in the afterlife.
When does this reincarnation process end?
If they are choosing to be reincarnated, then when they choose. If it is to learn a lesson, when that lesson is learned.
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Since you say that all people regardless of what type of life they have lived, eventually go to this place you call Summerland, then what is the point of trying to “learn certain lesson in life”?
Life is sacred, and is important to learn how to treat others and yourself. I believe that the Summerland is a paradise without hate, jealousy, prejudice, etc. As death is just part of the cycle of life, I feel it is important to learn how to treat others during life.
Where will that be? Here on earth or someplace else? But what if we do not want to be with this divinity? Will that divinity force us to be with him/her? Where do we go?
I already addressed these questions in previous posts.
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You said “If you lie to someone, it can be very harmful and will come back to you in the end.” What type of consequence is that?
Ok, personal example: I lied to my boyfriend about something. When he found out, we argued over the phone, my mother picked up, formed a negative opinion about him. I still wanted to see him, they began making it harder, problems begin to grow, finally reaches it’s peak w/ argument w/ my parents, my dad slaps me, I stay with my bf & his mother, DSS eventually makes me go home, things don’t get any better, I get kicked out, go back w/ my bf & mom, then w/ a friend, and now I have an apartment w/ my bf and no longer talk to my parents. Awww. Wasn’t that a pleasant story?:rolleyes:
What end is that, and what does it matter if we still end up in Summerland?
The end is death, and what does it matter how Christians act as long as they believe in Jesus and “repent”? They’ll all end up in heaven anyway.

As I have said before, I am still learning about reincarnation and forming my beliefs on it, so I am answering to the best of my ability. I do not know everything about it, and never claimed to. However, there are many good books out there that you can read if you would like more information.
 
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BlessedBe13:
Which God? There are many Gods. How do you know this is the True God. For there are many Gods BUT only one true God. Whats the proof? Where is the evidence. Please dont tell me you have Faith. Even the devils believe in God. Do you believe there is a DEVIL? :eek:
 
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SPOKENWORD:
Hi Jay,You are right that the apostles did not walk with a bible in hand,but they did walk with Christ who was the Word. I praise God that today we do have Gods written Word called the Bible.Okay so you want to give Catholics the praise for putting it into a book form. Im with you on that.But the fact is the Bible is sufficiant to meet all our needs if we take all that is written and put it into practice.He also left us with the Five Fold Ministries to help us.God Bless.
Hi SPOKENWORD! 👋

How, specifically, would scripture be sufficiant in meeting these needs?

****Someone deciding which Christian church teaches truth

****Somone deciding how to interpret the scriptures correctly when other Christians are telling her she’s wrong.

*****Someone making a decision about abortion

*****Someone making a decision about contraception.

*****Someone making a decision about in vitro fertilzation

****Someone making a decision about taking a loved one off of life-support

In Christ,
Nancy 🙂
 
Led Zeppelin75:
Then a cult called Roman Catholic (upper-case "C’) was founded.
Hi Led! 👋

The writings of the early Christians show that the church was called “Catholic” with a big “C” as early as 107 AD. It had to have been in fairly common use prior to that in order anyone to understand what he (Ignatius) was talking about.

The Roman Catholic Church didn’t suddenly appear. The Roman rite of the Catholic Church is only one of over 20 rites. Not to be confused, of course, with “denominations”. All of the rites of the Catholic Church are unified under the leadership of the pope.

In Christ,
Nancy 🙂
 
Led Zeppelin75:
In order for god to “believe” in something, he must exist, right? Well that’s something that your god does not.
Hi Led! 👋

How can you be sure?

In Christ,
Nancy 🙂
 
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jamesclaude:
Anglicans are 7 Sacrament catholics. So are the Orthodox. Obviously, they’re NOT ROMAN Catholics…
Hi James! 👋

Anglican are Protestants not Catholics.

“Roman” is only one of over 20 rites within the Catholic Church.

In Christ,
Nancy 🙂
 
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Katholikos:
A prophet is one who speaks for God. Every Pope is a prophet. JP2 is a prophet.

JMJ Jay
But prophets are inspired whereas popes are infallible, no?

In Christ,
Nancy 🙂
 
Led Zeppelin75:
If you belong to a religion, you’re going to have to follow that religion’s laws. The Catholic Church’s laws take away some serious freedoms such as:
  1. Sex before marrage
  2. Use of birth control
  3. Your view on abortion and gay marrage
  4. masturbation
  5. freedom of thought
  6. freedom of speech
  7. Your views on science and history
  8. “lust”
  9. freedom to use substances otherwise forbidden by the religion
  10. Who you will vote for
  11. How you will live your life
  12. How you will dress
And the list goes on…
True freedom is not being able to do whatever you want. It’s being able to do what’s fitting and right. If you’ve never experienced true freedom, which it doesn’t sound that you have, you can have no idea how wonderful true freedom is!

Those of us who, at one time, had the freedom you describe above but now know true freedom would never go back to what we now understand to be bondage to sin. True freedom is absolutely awesome! We’ve never been happier, more content or peaceful!

In Christ,
Nancy 🙂
 
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Catholic4aReasn:
Hi SPOKENWORD! 👋

How, specifically, would scripture be sufficiant in meeting these needs?

****Someone deciding which Christian church teaches truth

****Somone deciding how to interpret the scriptures correctly when other Christians are telling her she’s wrong.

*****Someone making a decision about abortion

*****Someone making a decision about contraception.

*****Someone making a decision about in vitro fertilzation

****Someone making a decision about taking a loved one off of life-support

In Christ,
Nancy 🙂
Hi Nancy. So simple,all you need is godly wisdom and understanding. Lets see now where do we get it. Lets go to Proverbs chapter two.Lets read it. What do you think? 👍 God Bless.
 
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Catholic4aReasn:
True freedom is not being able to do whatever you want. It’s being able to do what’s fitting and right. If you’ve never experienced true freedom, which it doesn’t sound that you have, you can have no idea how wonderful true freedom is!

Those of us who, at one time, had the freedom you describe above but now know true freedom would never go back to what we now understand to be bondage to sin. True freedom is absolutely awesome! We’ve never been happier, more content or peaceful!

In Christ,
Nancy 🙂
Amen, Sister Nancy! I nearly plunged headlong off the couch when I (as an atheist) heard Bishop Sheen on TV explain that true freedom is to be what we were created to be. A pendulum, he said, is free to move according to the design of its maker only when it is suspended from a fixed point as to move to and fro by the action of gravity and acquired momentum. We are free to function according to our creator’s design only when we are fixed on Him. Anything else is bondage.

I once was blind, but now I see.

JMJ Jay
 
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SPOKENWORD:
Hi Nancy. So simple,all you need is godly wisdom and understanding. Lets see now where do we get it. Lets go to Proverbs chapter two.Lets read it. What do you think? 👍 God Bless.
Hmmmm. Only a select few like you are able to tap into this Godly wisdom and understanding. If every Christian had it, or could get it by reading Proverbs chapter two, we’d all come up with the same answers to the same questions. But different Christians come up with different answers to the Q’s Nancy proposed – and many more!

Peace, Jay
 
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Katholikos:
Hmmmm. Only a select few like you are able to tap into this Godly wisdom and understanding. If every Christian had it, or could get it by reading Proverbs chapter two, we’d all come up with the same answers to the same questions. But different Christians come up with different answers to the Q’s Nancy proposed – and many more!

Peace, Jay
Yes Jay,You are one of the select few. Many are called but few are chosen.Every Christian can have it they truely seek His face. :confused: God Bless.
 
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SPOKENWORD:
There are many Gods.
There is only one creator - just many different interpretations.
Whats the proof? Where is the evidence.
Where is the evidence that your God is real? The Bible? :rolleyes: Words written by man, that is all that is. And you still have not told me what “proof” you are looking for.
Please dont tell me you have Faith.
Are you saying I don’t? Because I do. Even the devils believe in God.
Do you believe there is a DEVIL?
Honestly, why do you still keep asking the same questions. I have already said MANY times, I do not believe in Satan.
 
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BlessedBe13:
There is only one creator - just many different interpretations. Where is the evidence that your God is real? The Bible? :rolleyes: Words written by man, that is all that is. And you still have not told me what “proof” you are looking for. Are you saying I don’t? Because I do. Even the devils believe in God. Honestly, why do you still keep asking the same questions. I have already said MANY times, I do not believe in Satan.
Do you believe in evil?
 
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SPOKENWORD:
Do you believe in evil?
Yes, people are given free will and some choose to use it to commit evil deeds. I don’t need some supernatural boogeyman to blame evil on. People are responsible for the evil in this world.
 
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BlessedBe13:
Yes, people are given free will and some choose to use it to commit evil deeds. I don’t need some supernatural boogeyman to blame evil on. People are responsible for the evil in this world.
Where do these evil thoughts come from? :eek:
 
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