Why are 20% of Nobel Prize winners Jewish?

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Sorry folks… we went from Jewish Nobel Prize winners to the koran and islam.

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I will stop posting off topic - my apologies
Considering the Islamic charge that they (Jews) are descended from pigs and apes, it seems like an appropriate angle to cover; given that, according to Muslims, if it weren’t for Islam we’d be sticking forks in light sockets and smearing feces on cave walls, I’d say their mortal enemies bear scrutiny as much as they do.

Pretty smart “Pig-Apes” if you ask me. 🙂
 
I have a website, www.suralikeit.com, where the challenge to make a surah like one in the Koran - a challenge given by Allah himself supposedly - is given, as proof of the Koran’s divinity, that no one could write one like it. Surat have been written that many believe sound just as good as the real thing (I certainly do believe it), and carry meaning as much as the Koran, thus beating the challenge and disproving it. It even has the tell-tale case and perspective changes of the Koran. I have recited parts of it to Muslims (while in a cab - stereotypical), and several have asked what part of the Koran it is.
I have the same web site bookmarked and am pretty familiar with it… 😃
 
I have the same web site bookmarked and am pretty familiar with it… 😃
Can you read Arabic? It’s written in a bastardized Egyptian/Classical/MSA dialect, much like the original Koran was written not in pure Arabic, but in half a dozen dialects of Arabic plus Syriac as well. I’m working on getting transliterations and translations for all of them.
 
Can you read Arabic? It’s written in a bastardized Egyptian/Classical/MSA dialect, much like the original Koran was written not in pure Arabic, but in half a dozen dialects of Arabic plus Syriac as well. I’m working on getting transliterations and translations for all of them.
Read Arabic… pffffffffff !!! I can barely read English… 😃
 
Read Arabic… pffffffffff !!! I can barely read English… 😃
Native language Greek or Polish (odd, as Poles are almost all Catholics, but “jakasaki” has a definite Polish [or Japanese, but there aren’t many Jap. Christians, let alone Orthodox] ring to it)?

You don’t have the tell-tale lack of articles (the and a) or over-compensation (by putting an article before everything: “the Arabic”, “the English”) that native Russian speakers have when doing English. As an Eastern Orthodox, I don’t know of any other main languages that I can read or write (I can’t do Polish, and I haven’t reached the point where I can construct more than simple, first-year sentences in Russian, as I’m focusing on Mandarin).
 
Can you read Arabic? It’s written in a bastardized Egyptian/Classical/MSA dialect, much like the original Koran was written not in pure Arabic, but in half a dozen dialects of Arabic plus Syriac as well. I’m working on getting transliterations and translations for all of them.
Now I understand why you are asking me about reading Arabic…

This is the site I have book marketed…

faithfreedom.org/faq/65.htm

Within this site on the bottom of the page is the Arabic link to “suralikeit”…
 
Native language Greek or Polish (odd, as Poles are almost all Catholics, but “jakasaki” has a definite Polish [or Japanese, but there aren’t many Jap. Christians, let alone Orthodox] ring to it)?

You don’t have the tell-tale lack of articles (the and a) or over-compensation (by putting an article before everything: “the Arabic”, “the English”) that native Russian speakers have when doing English. As an Eastern Orthodox, I don’t know of any other main languages that I can read or write (I can’t do Polish, and I haven’t reached the point where I can construct more than simple, first-year sentences in Russian, as I’m focusing on Mandarin).
I am not Polish & I am not Japanese… 😃

I’m an American with Italian & Greek heritage… 👍

JakaSaki was the name of my Japanese Akita and he had a brother and his name was KumaSaki and I also had a female Japanese Akita, her name was NikkiBear… 😃

You’re too funny!! 😛

English is my primary language, but I do read Greek and can speak it, although, I am not fluent in speaking or reading. I can do just about the same with Italian, although my Italian is more of a childs version of reading and speaking.
 
Και πιστεύω ότι αν όλα τα έργα του Υιού του Θεού καταγράφηκαν γραπτώς, ότι θα καλύψει όλα τα βιβλία στον κόσμο. Αυτό το βιβλίο είναι γραμμένο έτσι ώστε να μπορεί να σωθεί, πιστεύοντας στον Ιησού ως τον Χριστό, ο γιος του ζωντανού Θεού.

It’s all Greek to me, except when it’s Latin.
 
Και πιστεύω ότι αν όλα τα έργα του Υιού του Θεού καταγράφηκαν γραπτώς, ότι θα καλύψει όλα τα βιβλία στον κόσμο. Αυτό το βιβλίο είναι γραμμένο έτσι ώστε να μπορεί να σωθεί, πιστεύοντας στον Ιησού ως τον Χριστό, ο γιος του ζωντανού Θεού.

It’s all Greek to me, except when it’s Latin.
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The Jews who accepted the Messiah are the remnant that Paul speaks of. And these Jews who accept the Messiah remain as God’s chosen people. However, the pagans who have accepted Christ too can participate in this “chosen-ness,” and you will see that he mentions the Gentiles as being grafted onto the olive tree that represents the chosen people, to take the place of those Jews who have have “broken off” from the tree through their rejection of the Messiah.

(Here’s a link to Romans 10, 11 and 12 for perusal)

There is nothing there to suggest the continued election of those Jews who have rejected the Messiah. Romans 11 clearly says that Gentiles can participate in the election of the Jewish remnant by replacing those who have broken off. In fact, it cautions the Gentiles about becoming arrogant about this. So there is nothing there to suggest a difference between a Christian Jew and a Christian Gentile.

Roman 10:11-12 in fact states, “As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.” 12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him”

The Jews remained God’s chosen people insofar as they haven’t rejected him by rejecting the Messiah.

The Gentiles become God’s chosen people when they accept the Messiah.

Those who reject Jesus Christ are in the same situation, be they Jewish, pagan or Muslim. They have either broken off the olive tree, the true faith if they were Jewish at the time of Christ and rejected Him, or they were never part of it, like the Jews, pagans and Muslims of today.

Romans 11 clearly supports the plain wording of Church documents and neither seem to match your private interpretation.
Hi there kch86—

In regards to Romans 10 and11, you wrote, “There is nothing there to suggest the continued election of those Jews who have rejected the Messiah.”

Romans 11:28 says, “As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, for God’s gift and His call are irrevocable.”

“They” are enemies of the gospel…and as far as election is concerned, “they” (the same they who are enemies of the gospel?..a different they?) are also loved on account of the patriarchs, for God’s gift and His call are irrevocable. What do you make of this? ( This is a genuine question from me.)
 
The Jews who accepted the Messiah are the remnant that Paul speaks of. And these Jews who accept the Messiah remain as God’s chosen people. However, the pagans who have accepted Christ too can participate in this “chosen-ness,”

Indeed… we, the wild olive branches are crafted into the noble olive tree.
The Church is the new Israel


and you will see that he mentions the Gentiles as being grafted onto the olive tree that represents the chosen people, to take the place of those Jews who have have “broken off” from the tree through their rejection of the Messiah.

(Here’s a link to Romans 10, 11 and 12 for perusal)

There is nothing there to suggest the continued election of those Jews who have rejected the Messiah. Romans 11 clearly says that Gentiles can participate in the election of the Jewish remnant by replacing those who have broken off. In fact, it cautions the Gentiles about becoming arrogant about this. So there is nothing there to suggest a difference between a Christian Jew and a Christian Gentile.

You are right… Though it sometimes in Scripture says: "Jewish first, then Greek"

Roman 10:11-12 in fact states, “As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.” 12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him”

The Jews remained God’s chosen people insofar as they haven’t rejected him by rejecting the Messiah.

**I think you choose to overlook a few things though, which do not make sense if I merely follow your line of reason: The Letter to the Romans 11:1-25:
“I now ask: Has God then rejected His People? Absolutely not. I myself am Israelite, of the line of Abraham, the tribe of Benjamin. God has not rejected His People, whom he has first accepted. (…) But if some of the branches have been broken off and you, who are the branch of a wild olive tree, have been crafted in among the branches (on the noble olive tree) and also receive the moisture from the root of the real tree, do not become arrogant remember its not you who carry the root but the root that carries you. (… ) a blindness/hardness is resting over part of Israel **until the gentiles have come in in full numbers, Then all of Israel will be saved.
Regarding the Gospel they are enemies, and they are so for your sake, but regarding the ELECTION they are loved, and they are so for the sake of the Fathers. For God does not regret His promises and calling”.

I think this clealy shows that even the part of israel over whom is resting a hardness- for our sake - there is still the election and a certain special plan which is still unfolding… It cannot be more clear than that.
By this I do not say that gentile Christians are less or something… The Church is indeed the new Jerusalem… however, the earthly Jerusalem remains in the Bible a place of great importance (read Daniel about the second coming of Christ) and the Jews, as is here written, have a certain role… and something yet to come.

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I guess it is naturally built on the Jews to be this way - brilliant in every field they choose to be in. As the scriptures says it, “they will be numerous as the stars in the heaven”.

They literally light up the night skies, and showed their radiance for the improvement of mankind.
But … let us not forget Israel sins …
 
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Mikis Theodorakis ***

click on each one:

Ke Doxa To Theo
Ke Doxa To Theo
Ke Doxa to Theo

“Doxa to Theo” lyrics:

Απ’ το πρωί μες στη βροχή
και μέσα στο λιοπύρι
για μια μπουκιά κι ένα ποτήρι
και δόξα τω Θεώ

Πέτρα στην πέτρα ολημερίς
χτίζω και δεν σε φτάνω
ήλιε μου πόσο είσαι πάνω
και δόξα τω Θεώ

Παράθυρο για τ’ όνειρο
κι αυλή για το σεργιάνι
ο ίσκιος σου να μη σε φτάνει
και δόξα τω Θεώ

PRAISE GOD

EVER SINCE THE MORNING, IN THE RAIN
AND IN THE SCORCHING SUN
FOR JUST A MOUTHFUL AND JUST A GLASS
AND PRAISE GOD

STONE UPON STONE, THE WHOLE DAY THROUGH
I AM BUILDING BUT CANNOT REACH YOU
SUN OF MINE, HOW HIGH YOU ARE
AND PRAISE GOD

JUST A WINDOW FOR DREAMING
AND JUST A YARD FOR WANDERING
YOUR OWN SHADE NOT REACHING YOU
AND PRAISE GOD
 
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